Timewaster's Guide Archive
Games => Video Games => Topic started by: House of Mustard on March 04, 2003, 10:46:45 AM
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Okay. So I hate RPGs (in computer form). I hate them mostly because I get really sick of having to go to this town and talk to all the villagers and then go to that castle and talk to the king and the guards and the scullery maid and then go to the old hermit who lives on the hill. I hate that. I really really hate that.
Anyway, while playing Warcraft 3 I realized that I kept losing because I only cared about making my hero tougher and I kept ignoring my base. So Fell suggested I try Diablo.
Bah!
It is the most addictive game I've ever played, and there is a remarkable dearth of having to talk to anybody. My RPG hatred still shows up a little. I can only handle the first act before I have to start over with a different character. But still -- Hoo Boy!
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The second act, I think, is the most RPG-ish of them all. You're really going to love the fourth act, though: it's just a tiny little town with two shops and a waypoint, and three NPCs who could care less about talking to you.
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If I ever get that far. I have never completed the second mission of the second act - whenever i get to it I get too stinking frustrated looking for all seven tombs. I just restart and try the first act again with a new character.
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Here's a question: If an item is yellow it's rare and if it's blue it's uncommon, or whatever, but what if it's green? I found a green belt that is extremely cool, but it lists a bunch of other stuff that makes no sense in the description.
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Blue items are simple magic items. They have one or two mods.
Green items are set items, which is a very interesting idea. When you collect items from the same set, they boost each others power, adding more mods to each item. If you collect a whole set, it adds a bunch of mods.
As cool as that sounds, set items still generally aren't as good as the gold Unique items.
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I've actually been playing Diablo 2 a bit recently. My charcter account from our old run at hardcore mode is still alive and well, and I've picked up a bunch of cool stuff recently. Just one more item (Lightsabre) and I'll probably start working on my melee necromancer. (Yeah, all the other necromancer concepts I can think of sound boring. Kinda like druids.)
The general feeling is that 1.10 might come out sometime soon...maybe this year even. ;) I'm looking forward to the new ladder system the patch will introduce. Under those conditions we might even be able to compete on the ladder. (If you haven't heard of the new 'ladder character' concept yet, it's all on battle.net's D2 website)
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The second act quests are structured really funky--they give you the big ones right off the bat and then you have to solve a bunch of little subquests in order to do them. I like the first act model better: they tell you to do something, you do it, you get a reward, and they tell you to do something else.
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Agreed. Act Two is structured poorly. I didn't realize it for a while, but I'm pretty sure you can go into the palace of Act Two after you kill Radament even if you haven't gotten the cube or the staff pieces. Their triggers are sort of messed up. The third act is kind of weird as well though. I spent a good while wandering around town the first time I got that far trying to get someone to give me a quest. They won't when you first arrive...you have to go out into the world first.
Thinking back about Fell's comments about Act 4 though...in the expansion, all the NPCs in town double as a shop of one kind or another...even Tyrael is there to bring back your mercenary.
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you'll have to borrow Dungeon Siege sometime Fell. It's still the best looking PC RPG out there. and hours of fun.
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Okay - here's another cotton pickin reason why I hate RPG's -- I've been playing this stupid thing all morning looking for the dumb Claw Viper Temple and I swear the thing doesn't exist. I've gone back and forth across the whole map and killed EVERYTHING - and there is no sign of the place. I hate this game.
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You geek. Why do you insist on playing without my kind guidance?
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What are your account names guys?
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ahhhh diablo ruined my life!!! damn good game though! ::)
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Well I know you were all worried, but I would just like to calm all of your fears and let you know that Baal has finally been defeated. You can all sleep well tonight.
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Haha, you actually stuck with a character beyond Act I? Congrats... I guess. Now when are you going to join the rest of us in Hardcore?
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Myself, I get bored after about 3 acts. It doesn't have to be the THIRD act, just 3 of them. Usually I use an Amazon (I like range attacks and don't like to muck about with spells, as I find I don't pay enough attention to my manna, and I might as well just die as run out when I'm a spell caster). This last time I used a Barbarian through 2 acts, then realized that I really hated hand to hand combat. So I restarted with an amazon. I finished act 1 and guess what? Bored again!
So I reawakened my Never Winter Nights addiction. It's not AS fun as the first time, as I know the story, but I still think the play beats the play in Diablo II. More choices (not QUITE as customizable when leveling, but with all the items...). Anyway, the drive hasn't been formatted since I got there, so maybe I'll get a hankerin to play again eventually. The great thing is that, if I actually play 3 acts next time, I'll have finally beaten it. Yay!
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You're playing the single player campaign of NWN again? I don't think I could handle that, especially considering that there are hundreds of very good fan campaigns out there. That's my favorite part about NWN--I have a limitless supply of new adventures I can download.
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There's a lot of good player campaigns out there? Where I haven't even thought to look. I haven't played with it for many months because I had lost the install discs. Give me information! NOW!
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There's a few different sites, but most of them just mirror each other. This is the best one: http://nwn.bioware.com/downloads/modules.html
At current count they have 14 Bioware modules and 2249 fan modules. I haven't played any of the Bioware ones, actually, but a lot of the fan stuff can be really good. I bet you feel pretty justified in your purchase of NWN, now that you know it includes over 2000 games instead of just one :). I know I did.
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justified?! I'm all a-giggle! I feel like Sir Carl with a new, damaged, beat-to-crud guitar with no strings that I'm deluded into believing was once owned by King David!
I just need to download them all before I disconnect the computer tomorrow and move back to dial up!
YIPPEE!!!!!
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My melee necromancer passed a benchmark today, gaining his 30th level and reaching the end of the River of Flame. So far he hasn't had too many problems killing things...it hasn't even proven terribly profitable to curse stuff yet. (OK, yeah, he's decked out in really good gear. I'd be stupid to do a melee necromancer otherwise, though, right?)
If anyone else is ready to pass Diablo in hc normal mode, I'd be glad to have a partner. I don't think I'll have too many problems surviving the big guy, but taking him down is gonna take forever if it's just me and my iron golem.
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My roommates are still constantly playing D2X, but I never know where they are level-wise. The best way to check for TWGers on b.net is to go to the kwark channel, or check for a kwark/kwark game. That's usually where they play.
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Would that also apply to any Blizzard game Tage?
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Generally, yeah, although I don't know if anyone is playing WC3 or SC at the moment.
*sigh* I miss Starcraft.
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Really?! Well me and some a few friends have been playing starcraft. Contact me sometime and we'll see what happens, or something.
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Wow, we should start a support group. I miss the days of SC also.
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I'm not even sure if I know how to play it anymore. I mean, it's been literally years. Still, couldn't hurt to give it a shot sometime. What are all you kids doing tonight?
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A Starcraft party? I think I could get in on that.
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Well I'm all on the eastern sideboard. So time may be crazy-go-nuts for me here. And I'm sure...6 PM your time would be outlandish for you folks.
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Heh. Try being 7 hours ahead Mr P.
Game starts at 9pm there. It counts as 4am here. :'(
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Mayhaps the game would best be left to a Saturday, then. That way, the MST timezone people could have a nice morning game, the EST timezone people could get a game in after lunch, and our British friends could play after tea. But then, isn't just about *any* time "after tea" for you strange folks?
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Saturday morning could be tricky for me, since Audrey will be awake and running hither and thither. what time are we talking about, specifically?
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Well I'm not too sure about this saturday, seeing as how I'll need lots of sleep before the 12 hour LAN party me and some friends are going to.
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Blizzard accidentally posted some v1.10 patch notes to Arreat Summit for a couple of hours before they noticed and brought them back down. In that time, however, a lot of people copied the info. Apparently a lot of it is false, but still--it's fun to look around.
http://diabloii.net/items/v110/index.shtml
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I used to be a d2 addict! ;D
however i only played through the acts normally the first time... after that i just abused the system to get to the nice places to level.
got several lvl 60+ and a couple round 80.
actually me and Gargamel played some recently..
got a lvl 80 barb each ^_^;;
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Well done. We are all terribly impressed.
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Oh i hope you are cause otherwise ill have to make you subdue to me as the ruler of the universe! mwahah
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Just count to 10, Entropy. Deep breaths.
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The great thing is that, if I actually play 3 acts next time, I'll have finally beaten it. Yay!
Incidentally, I finally beat this game. Like the first installment I was deeply disappointed by the ending. So predictable. But I guess it leaves open an option for D3: The revenge of goober clicking!
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I agree that the ending is lame, but it doesn't take long to realize that the story is completely beside the point--I never pay attention to the ending because I'm always just playing through the middle, over and over and over.
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I've found Oni and Medal of Honor to be much more replayable. But then, I finished those my first time through and didn't have to drop it and pick back up 10 times to beat them.
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D2 is hoplessly boring if you don't play on-line, and don't play hardcore. (My humble opinion, of course.) It's the only game I've ever played where death is a serious issue. That, at least, was what kept me playing. I've never had a character over lvl 73--I always get killed.
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I've never had a character higher than level 15 :)
But then i have never got past act 3, quest 2 or so.
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My highest character was level 46, mainly because I get bored and start a new character.