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Reading Excuses / Re: June 8 - Ryos - Benders - Chapters 2b and 3
« on: June 23, 2010, 10:00:13 AM »
Okay, as suggested, I reread chapter 2 and immediately went into 2b as if they were together.

Thorrylacious?

The king spends his time in the future? Is he physically there, or just a clairvoyant thing? The latter would be far more interesting, unless the former means that he just sends his mind forward while his body remains behind. Basically, as long as time travel isn't involved, it's cool.

Is Dalrymple's brain a character of it's own? Wow... that is really cool. Are they distinctly separate personalities, or is it just an overactive part of his imagination? I like how self-centered and selfish Dalrymple is; such traits sometimes lead to the best character arcs. Plus it leads to some great dialogue between him and His Brain.

I'm wondering what Trinium is. My guess right now is some kind of drug that gives the user visions of the future.

At this point, as it's revealed he's been conscripted into the king's guard, I have to wonder why. Does it have something to do with what happened in the short story I haven't read? If so, those events should be summarized or brought into the story to better explain things, and give a good reason for why Dalrymple is special enough to warrant both the attention of the king and whatnot.

Chapter 3...

Ah, so Trinnium is a drink. A vision-inducing beverage. Must be hard to come by, and rather expensive, else everyone would be using it for stupid things, like whether or not to wear the red shirt or whether to get the blueberry or cherry pie for dessert.

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Trinnium visions always came to pass. ++Always++. Every last thing he had ever seen had happened exactly as he’d seen it. Changing the foreseen future was simply impossible; he’d tried, and never succeeded. He had thought a great deal about how this might be; as near as he could tell, the visions were recursive. They didn’t show you the future so you could change it—they showed you the future that had been altered by your having seen it.

Really, I'd think the best solution then would be to not use the stuff. There isn't much point in seeing the future if you can't try to change it, and if everything your seeing will happen because you saw it, you may as well not see it. Can taking another shot of Trinnium change the previous future you saw? Could the king just keep drinking the stuff until he got a more satisfactory future?

I'm going to agree with LTU on most of the rest. The writing is good, the prose sufficiently translucent to the point that I have no trouble seeing the story playing out in my head. However, trinnium really destroys tension, especially since the visions of the future cannot be avoided. If they could work to prevent them somehow, it gives a nice timebomb to the story, but since they can't... I'm wondering where exactly the conflict is in this.

And... that's really all I have. Good writing, not sure what's happening with the plot yet.

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Reading Excuses / Re: May 17 2010 - Ryos - Benders - Chapters 1 and 2
« on: June 23, 2010, 09:07:07 AM »
Okay, I've finally gotten to this. I'm not sure what I can say that hasn't been said already, but I feel I shouldn't comment on 2b and 3 until I've commented on this.

Also, thanks for suggesting Tofu as a reader. It's fantastic!

Anyway, I've mentioned I don't mind Nmae as a name. Don't put an apostrophe in it, it's just fine as it is.

Wow, first chapter was a lot shorter than I expected. It was interesting, if confusing due to being thrown in this world rather quickly. Bending seems very interesting, and I'm curious as to the limits of what it can do. However, before I can begin to think on this, we're suddenly introduced to people having frequencies and tones and all that jazz. All of it very intriguing, but I didn't feel as if I was given enough.

I like Nmae. The thing with the emotions was rather odd, especially this line:

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"She knew shouldn’t be this afraid, not yet, but it was getting difficult to ignore."

Which leads me to believe a cost of Bending, or of seeing things in audible terms (which, now that I think of it, could easily be more Bending at work), is that it makes you feel fear. This is further solidified in the final line of the chapter:

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She was so happy that she felt she might just make it out of the city before being overrun by terror.
A very interesting ramification of using the magic, and one I haven't seen before. If this isn't the case, then I am so stealing that for another story because that is an awesome concept.

Not much else I think I can say on chapter 1. I would have liked to see more to it, but at the same time I'm not sure what else you could add. The only thing that comes to mind is more on Nmae and what she's doing; as Justice1337 said, there's so little on her and what she's doing, that I have a hard time caring about any of it. I'm intrigued, but not really intrigued enough.

Onto chapter 2.

Love the first line, although it seems like a lot of stories I read lately seem to start with people in jail or imprisoned in some other way. Nothing wrong with that, just coincidence in what I've read recently.

I like Dalrymple, especially how he argues with his brain. His escape seems to involve magic, obviously, and I'm wondering if the magic he uses is related to the Bending Nmae used in the first chapter. He doesn't seem to know what he's doing or how he's doing it, only that it works, which says quite a bit about his character. One page in, and I feel I have very good impression of the man, so very nicely done.

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The corridor into which they emerged was posh, with polished marble floors and wood-paneled walls.

Use of the word 'Posh' threw me out a bit, as it's a British slang term (as you're using it here, at least) and unless this is set in our world, or Dalrymple has knowledge of the United Kingdom, it doesn't fit the rest of the story.

"{Countrian}" makes me laugh.  ;D

Interesting chapter. Not sure exactly what I think of it. There's nothing quite yet to really hook me to this story, aside from a few mysterious motivations, and while that can work, I haven't been given enough to really care. Well, that's not completely accurate; I do want to know if I'm right about the magic causing fear in those who use it. Again, though, not quite enough to make me care beyond more than a few chapters, so the following ones will need to have a good hook to really get me into them.

Nice job overall, though. I'll be reading 2b and 3 and commenting on the shortly.

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Books / Re: What are you reading, part 3
« on: June 23, 2010, 07:37:55 AM »
I agree it's his best. :) Other books of his I've read tend to get bogged down. Also, his YA books (Crosstime Traffic) all have horrible deus ex machina endings or someone other than the protagonists solving all the problems.

I didn't really see them as being bogged down, personally. I do agree completely, however, about the Crosstime Traffic books. I tried to read The Disunited States of America, because I thought the concept was awesome, but couldn't get through it. The premise intrigued me greatly, but the execution... just didn't work for me.

I'll probably get around to Guns of the South at some point. I have a signed copy of Liberating Atlantis on my to-read pile first, though.

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Reading Excuses / Re: June 6- dark_prophecy- As a Man Does
« on: June 23, 2010, 07:30:44 AM »
I like this. I was a little confused about it up until the ending, which took me by surprise, put everything into perspective, and tied almost everything up perfectly.

That 'almost' is the one complaint I have with the piece. Like Silk, I wanted to see just a little bit more. The piece whet my appetite, but like most flash fiction failed to sate it. I want to know just a little bit more - why these two are adversaries, what the creature is, stuff like that. Just a little bit more.

Then again, maybe that's the impression you want to leave me with. I don't really know. Regardless, I enjoyed this, and didn't have any real problem with the word choice, and found the entire thing to be quite a neat idea.

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Reading Excuses / Re: June 21 - Renoard - Redmantle Chapter 1
« on: June 23, 2010, 05:15:40 AM »
I don't think I got this. Resend?

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Books / Re: What are you reading, part 3
« on: June 23, 2010, 02:59:50 AM »
@Shivertonge: If you read the book, you will see it in Turtledove's style. He likes to make a change to history then write what he thinks will have happen after that. He uses time travel the same way. It is a very good book. You may not see it that way, but you will see the same pattern in Guns of the South as in other books. It is his best and I think most popular book.

It is also smart. Robert E. Lee gets 100,000 AK-47s, but he has these guys act realistically after he gets them.

I'd disagree that it's his best, personally, and I don't know enough to know if it actually is his most popular. I've read a little of it, and while the writing was as good as his other books, the method of the change didn't appeal to me. Time travel always feels cheap to me, and while I understand the every concept of the book relied on it (how else could the Confederacy get AK-47s?) because of it, it just didn't work for me. I've read over thirty of his novels and several collections of his short fiction which I enjoyed much more than I did what I read of Guns of the South. The Darkness series, where World War 2 is played out in a world where magic works, or Southern Victory (the previously mentioned Timeline 191) were far more enjoyable, I thought.

Just a difference of opinion. Not saying it's bad, I just don't agree that it's his best.

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Books / Re: What are you reading, part 3
« on: June 22, 2010, 11:28:13 PM »

Guns of the South is one of the few Turtledove books I haven't read, mostly because I don't care much for alternate histories where things are changed by time travel. Have you read the Timeline 191 books? That series is among my favourite of his.

Guns of the South is Turtledove's best novel. I have read about 15 of his books. This is by far the best. Time Travel is a mechanism similiar to the invasion of aliens during world war 2 in his world war books. I think the concept would make a great movie. They have to make sure not to turn it into too much of an action flick.

I don't see the mechanism as the same, because when time travel is involved, it's generally someone coming back to change a specific thing. The alien invasion is not the same sort of thing, which is probably why I enjoyed the Wordlwar series as much as I did. I prefer the change that causes the alternate history to be something more natural, such as in Timeline 191, when Robert E. Lee's battle plans were recovered shortly after being lost (unlike in our time, where the Union found them). A small change, but one that had massive consequences.

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Reading Excuses / Re: Email List + Submission Dates
« on: June 21, 2010, 08:30:47 PM »
I didn't get anything from Comatose...

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Reading Excuses / Re: Email List + Submission Dates
« on: June 21, 2010, 12:33:27 PM »
Okay, I've tried to submit, but all I've gotten is Mailer-Daemon notices that it wasn't delivered. Either they're lying, and everyone received three copies of my submission, or I'm doing something wrong.

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I've put Essence on hold for the time being, and instead have been working on this. Wavepainter is an idea I've been percolating for several months now, and only recently got the spark I needed to begin writing it. I'm approaching it differently than most other projects... but I'm not telling you how. Not yet, anyway. It might colour your view of the story. Or something.

The prologue is pretty short (and I might be cut, I'm not sure. That's one of the things I'm hoping to get some feedback on.) Both are unedited, for the most part, and quite unpolished and rough. The prologue was actually typed up in the last fifteen minutes, and hasn't been edited at all XD

Some quick summarizing...

Prologue: Too small to summarize. It's like, 600 words.

Chapter One: In which an exhibition is attended.

Please, tell me anything you can about this. What works, what doesn't work, what I'm doing well and what i can improve upon. I'm really excited about this project, and want to make it the best story I can.

(And let me reiterate: Give me the good as well as the bad. Pure negative or pure positive is the same as giving me nothing. I need both in order to improve.)

Thanks for reading, and I hope you enjoy!

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Mistborn Movie-Casting?
« on: June 20, 2010, 08:27:09 AM »
Justin Bieber for Spook.  <gag> I can't believe I even got it down without losing my dinner.

You realize we are now going to have to sacrifice you atop a stack of those no good Brandon Sanderson novels, that are entirely too long, for your insolence.


If you supply the outdated encyclopedias, I can bring in the cult of evil librarians...

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Books / Re: What are you reading, part 3
« on: June 20, 2010, 05:31:17 AM »
Just finished Guns of the South, not sure what I am up for next, a series or a stand-alone? hmmm need to think about that, it is not like I have a whole lot of time these days, but I will coming up....

I gotta ask...  is songs of Fire and Ice worth starting?

It's worth starting only if you willing to wait long periods of time for new books in the series to come out. Extremely compelling, extremely well-written, but because of that the wait is almost unbearable. Add in that all this other stuff related to A Song of Ice and Fire is coming out, but no definite release date for the next book, and it becomes rather frustrating. I decided a while back that I'm not going to pick up any more of his books, or have anything to do with any of his other properties, until the series is finished.

Guns of the South is one of the few Turtledove books I haven't read, mostly because I don't care much for alternate histories where things are changed by time travel. Have you read the Timeline 191 books? That series is among my favourite of his.

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Reading Excuses / Re: Progress and Submission Reports
« on: June 19, 2010, 10:11:35 AM »
Started the first chapter of Wavepainter tonight. With luck, should have something to submit on Monday.

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Reading Excuses / Re: Would you prefer...
« on: June 18, 2010, 09:16:05 PM »
All at once, please, unless you can find a point in the middle that works as a good cliffhanger, or if you'd like specific feedback on two halves independently.

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Books / Re: How's Scott Lynch doing?
« on: June 18, 2010, 09:00:01 PM »
Where'd you find that?  I just checked out everything I can find on him through Google and can't see anything that even hints to this.

His blog can be found here: http://scott-lynch.livejournal.com/

And, good news from his most recent post - it looks like he's writing again! As much as he can as his anxiety attacks permit, it seems.

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