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Local Authors => Brandon Sanderson => Topic started by: holt on February 03, 2009, 03:44:37 AM
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Hey everyone,
First off I just wanted to say that I have all of my friends hooked on Mistborn. I let 4 of them borrow Mistborn1 and they all have bought Mistborn2/3.
However, I have a question about the following mistborn site: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistborn
Where did it get the information regarding the unknown metals?
More importantly...where did it get this info:
'They're also now known to be 2 additional metals (God metals) that sit outside of the main 16, which could have as many as 16 alloys each.'
'Cadmium (External)'
'Cerrobend (External)'
'Chromium (External)'
'Nicrosil (External)'
Did I miss something while reading the last book??
Where did the information with the god metals come from? And why is there 4 new metals listed? I thought that there was only 2.
Thanks,
Jonathan
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Most of the information came from Brandon's blog, specifically the post at . . .
http://www.brandonsanderson.com/blog/737/Poster-Near-Final-Version
However, it was later discovered that Cerrobend is a trademarked name, and I don't think Brandon has decided on a new name for the other metal yet. (I believe the name with the highest backing at the moment is bendalloy.)
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Most of the information came from Brandon's blog, specifically the post at . . .
http://www.brandonsanderson.com/blog/737/Poster-Near-Final-Version
Does he still sell those posters??
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No, because he never started selling them. They are still in the planning/editing/whatever stage.
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I'd suppose that it is taking a while to get those posters going because Brandon's trying to get a great alternate name to Cerrobend.
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You would think that the company that owns the name Cerrobend would love the free advertising that it's use in the books/posters/whatever generates. It's not like EUOL is using the metal itself and calling it Cerrobend. He is referring to a fictional world and Cerrobend's fictional use as an allomantic metal. Unfortunately everyone has to make a buck off of every little thing.
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Unfortunately everyone has to make a buck off of every little thing.
I believe it's called survival. 8)
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Unfortunately everyone has to make a buck off of every little thing.
I believe it's called survival. 8)
Not if it would make you more money in the long term to allow things to stand as they are.
Long-term thinking is possible in a wealthy world like ours. Far too few people avail themselves of it.
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Quote from: Shaggy on February 06, 2009, 10:21:52 PM
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Unfortunately everyone has to make a buck off of every little thing.
I believe it's called survival.
Not if it would make you more money in the long term to allow things to stand as they are.
Long-term thinking is possible in a wealthy world like ours. Far too few people avail themselves of it.
Long-term thinking often involves taking a risk. Many people are not willing to take risks in which the stakes are so high. Short-term thinking is much easier for peace of mind.
Not that I think long-term thinking is stupid; quite the opposite. I am a big believer in long-term planning; since I am a kid, though, I have to do much less thinking/planning than all of you, so I don't really have to worry about that much.
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Does anyone else think the 'perhaps unexpected' part of the Nicrosil description is foreshadowing events from the next trilogy as to how it could be used as a weapon?
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I know I read somewhere in the mass of reading I have done about Brandon that he mentioned the next mistborn series taking place much later in the future. He also stated that mistborns were alot more rare or didn't exist, cant remember which. So the additional metal and working in groups is alot more common. Something like using Necrobursting someone who is pushing on two objects. They would squish themselves because they would not have pewter to survive live Vin did. It also could be used to help allies.
I would forsee people carrying more vials and less metal in them to lower the risks of being necroburst.
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I know I read somewhere in the mass of reading I have done about Brandon that he mentioned the next mistborn series taking place much later in the future. He also stated that mistborns were alot more rare or didn't exist, cant remember which. So the additional metal and working in groups is alot more common. Something like using Necrobursting someone who is pushing on two objects. They would squish themselves because they would not have pewter to survive live Vin did. It also could be used to help allies.
I would forsee people carrying more vials and less metal in them to lower the risks of being necroburst.
Yes, as far as I know the next trilogy will take place in modern time and be more like an Urban Fantasy novel. Mistborn would be very very rare. If I remember correctly the main character will burn Nicrocil. (Anyone have the reference for that or am I thinking wrong metal? >>)
Then the possible third trilogy would take place well into the future.
There was also mention that not all of the metals are actually metals (possibly) and could be of other substances (maybe).
Of course, all of this is still up in the air until he actually drafts some copies. xD
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I'm sure the reference is in the MB3 Spoiler topic somewhere, but I don't feel like digging through it. However, I definitely recall Brandon saying that the main character would be a Nicrosil Misting and that there would not be any Mistborn.
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I'm sure the reference is in the MB3 Spoiler topic somewhere, but I don't feel like digging through it. However, I definitely recall Brandon saying that the main character would be a Nicrosil Misting and that there would not be any Mistborn.
SPOILER!!
That is right if I remember correctly. Also I beleive the only reoccuring characters that are possible is Marsh and Sazed. March is still alive and apparently can pull off the same trick as the lord ruler. That is if my memory serves me correctly. It has been known to fail me in the past. :D So technically Marsh would be the only one with full Mistborn like capabilities. Will be interesting if they use him though seems how he is no longer controlled by Rune.
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I also remember there being something said about Marsh still being alive like TLR had done. I don't remember if it was said if he would be a main character or not though. Oh and I'm certain Hoid will make an appearance as well.
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ok what does nicrocil do? and who is Hoid?
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It says on the poster earlier in this thread what nicrosil does.
Hoid is a character who makes appearances in most of Brandon's books. Not much has been revealed about him yet.
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It says on the poster earlier in this thread what nicrosil does.
That didnt really answer the question.
Also, where the heck are you guys getting all of this info? Several of you are talking about another trilogy like it will be created soon. I remember brandon saying that if he made another mistborn book it would be a ways off.
Another one even said that there would be 2 more trilogy? What?!
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There is a lot of info from Brandon in the first 25 pages or so of this thread:
http://www.timewastersguide.com/forum/index.php?topic=6148.0
However, that is a lot to wade through :D Basically, we are getting this info from Brandon personally. Some of it is on his personal site, brandonsanderson.com, and some is in the above linked thread.
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To answer the question. Nicrosil works similar to duriliam. It forces a powerful burst of other metals being burned a the time and consumes them. The difference is that where duriliam affects your metals, nicrosil affects the metals of other people. So I nicrosil could flare a soothers metals letting him force his will on someone or a tin burners metals essentially blinding them.
It says on the poster earlier in this thread what nicrosil does.
That didnt really answer the question.
Also, where the heck are you guys getting all of this info? Several of you are talking about another trilogy like it will be created soon. I remember brandon saying that if he made another mistborn book it would be a ways off.
Another one even said that there would be 2 more trilogy? What?!