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Title: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: Spriggan on January 07, 2004, 08:57:04 AM
Since I'm not in school this semester and have a LOT of free time I'm hopeing I can actualy finish things that I've been wanting to.  Even though I love playing FFXI, I don't want to spend all my free time doing so.  Anyway here I'm going to list what I'm working on or thinking of working on, and update how far along I am.  You're allwayse welcome to post ideas/suggestions for what ever is listed here.

Current main project:
Designing the NickelCade's (http://www.timewastersguide.com/VG/NickelCade/) main page and placeing all the past Flash games and Animations here.   <--->   5% complete

Things being planned for this project



Other projects being worked on/planned/tossed around



Completed Projects
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Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on January 07, 2004, 09:21:13 AM
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Ninja Monkey---intial concept phase--- I've been playing around with a side scrolling platform game (ie maro bros, shinobi, sonic) where you're one of SE's ninja monkeys doing something.  I do have a very simple game engine that I've been working on that lets you move a character around the stage and scroll the screen.  Any suggestions for story/enemies/gameplay mechaincs would be appreciated.

Hrm... food for thought. My initial reaction is that they're ninja assassin priests, so the adventures shoudl involve killing things and performing rituals (perhaps they need bananas for sacrifices?) Cameos by other TWG members is a plus too. I'll come up with more.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: Spriggan on January 07, 2004, 09:33:49 AM
I don't realy want to have the main charcter doing ritiual scrafices even if it is just banannas.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: Entsuropi on January 07, 2004, 09:45:10 AM
Ritual sacrifices are fun for all the family.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on January 07, 2004, 09:53:56 AM
you WILL sacrifice bananas to the glory of SE!

er.. sorry.
they don't have to be sacrifices. I'm just brainstorming.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: Spriggan on January 07, 2004, 11:15:00 AM
I know you're just tossing around ideas, but I'm just uncomfrotable with makeing the plot of the game a ritiual scrafice.  All though, collecting bananas for you (maybe they;re magical bananas) so you can become more powerful etc is perfectly fine.  just leave out the words "ritiual" and "sacrafice" used in conjuction with eachother.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: Spriggan on January 07, 2004, 05:09:45 PM
The above list has been updated.  I've crossed of what I've done or am not going to do.  I've also added 3 new (but easy/quick) items to the list as well as updated the % complete.  I've posted a link to the program so please debug it and post suggestions.  I'll then finish it tomorrow and it can be either posted friday or next monday.  Also if you want your picture in there send it when you can, I can allwayse add it after it's posted.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: JP Dogberry on January 08, 2004, 12:43:19 AM
Heh! Heaps Good! You need to label the photos though. (Unless they were and I was too stupid to see it). Koala whacking game also sounds brilliant! Anyone, I may hunt around my hard drive later for a picture I can shrink to the right size if you want mine. Kind of pointless though, I'm so handsome there's no way you'll be able to improve on my mughsot  ;D
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: Spriggan on January 08, 2004, 03:18:11 AM
send it on in JP, my e-mail is listed in my profile.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: Spriggan on January 08, 2004, 07:34:50 AM
Umm it's basicaly done.  I can't realy think of anything that I could add that would require a layout change and lots of recodeing (like additoinal drawing tools).  I did find one bug where when you changed the line size it wouldn't implement the changes untill you clicked on the color selector tool.   I'm going to write up some instructions and it'll be done unless you guys find anything that needs to be changed.  The file size is about 230k.  Also as I said before I can add more pictures at any time.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on January 08, 2004, 07:48:26 AM
yeah, i have some, but I forgot to prepare them last night. I'll get on that tonight, esp if I have a reminder.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: Spriggan on January 08, 2004, 07:51:27 AM
I was just going to take on off your site SE, but I didn't think they were all that great for this project.  All a wierd angles, half-naked, or with the family.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on January 08, 2004, 07:56:10 AM
hey, half naked would be cool!
Show me what you have for Fell and such so I can match that in tone.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: Spriggan on January 08, 2004, 08:24:34 AM
There's a link to to program up top in the orignal post.  Then you can see the pictures.  42's didn't relay come out that well, a larger face like Fell's and Tages works the best.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: Entsuropi on January 08, 2004, 08:55:21 AM
hum. You need to be able to drag the faces in more than one direction :) And to be able to draw on the distorted faces :)
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: Spriggan on January 08, 2004, 09:18:12 AM
how the distort effect works wont allow for either.  I tried for about a week to get it so you could stretch what you drew as well, but at the end it didn't work.  And I didn't even try to let you do multiple streaches, I allready knew that from when I orignaly coded it.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on January 08, 2004, 09:22:40 AM
the problem with that is I don't have flash on my computer at work, and no, I don't dare install it both from fear of the admin and because it would take all morning for this computer to work that out. (It has 63 MB of RAM. No, not 64. 63. I wonder how many of those megs that it still counts are actually any good). I COULD get to it on my home computer, but I reckon the download will take a while. The connection there is total crap. It'd be faster if the pictures were just in a folder somewhere.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: Spriggan on January 08, 2004, 09:28:52 AM
ahh ya I forgot you've got a job now that requires you to work.

here's the picture. (http://www.timewastersguide.com/VG/pictures/Fell.JPG)  of course its rotated 90 degrees.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on January 08, 2004, 09:35:45 AM
cool, I think I can pull something off. I'll do it when I get home.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: Spriggan on January 08, 2004, 12:14:41 PM
The main post has been updated.  Once I get done with this new project I'm going to work on a few things for the ones still in concept designs.  I'd like to post a quick build of the platform game engine even though there's realy not anything of substance in it except moveing a thing around the screen and jumping.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on January 09, 2004, 01:10:59 AM
I love the second picture of Fell. He looks like French Stuart.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on January 09, 2004, 07:46:15 AM
hrm... ihave some smallish ones, but I can have bigger ones if I rescan (which I'd have to do at someone else's house). What dimensions do you want this picture to be? I thought you had said, but I can't find it now.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: Spriggan on January 09, 2004, 02:40:51 PM
about 200x300 pixels.  it dosen't need to be exacly that size but if it's smaller then half that size the picture wont look good once expanded.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on January 09, 2004, 03:03:52 PM
ok, i may have something already. I'll email tonight.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: EUOL on January 12, 2004, 08:54:33 AM
You need to get a pic of most of us up here somewhere, Sprig.  (Specifically, you should get one of me and of you, since that wouldn't be too hard.)  Maybe make a locked topic in the 'News' section called 'What we look like' or a new staff page (I never did get around to finishing that...)

Anyway, I'd like a thread where you post only pictures of people that can get distorted, with explanations of who people are without any other sort of textual interference.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: Spriggan on January 12, 2004, 09:10:25 AM
I don't have one of you that would be big enough for the program.  The real reason I didn't add me and you is becasue of file size.  I couldn't get the program to work with loading external pictures, so I had to put them in the flash program.  And at 5 pictures it's about 230k.  Moveing that to 10 would make the program about 400k.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: EUOL on January 12, 2004, 09:12:40 AM
I guess I don't understand.  Can't you just make a separate instance of the program for each face?
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: Spriggan on January 12, 2004, 09:17:34 AM
ya, I can do that.  I orignaly desigend it to load in the pictures (which flash does very well, and keeps the inital filesize and lodetimes realy low), but the streching code didn't like it.  So I made it so you could switch between multiple staff members, that way you didn't have to load a new program to mess with someone else.  If people want I can easly make a different one for each TWG person.  The filesize would be about 70k+the picture filesize.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: Entsuropi on January 12, 2004, 09:30:42 AM
Yeah. Put in a html menu for the seperate programs.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: Entsuropi on January 12, 2004, 01:55:21 PM
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The real reason I didn't add me and you is becasue of file size.


And here i was thinking it was due to your fiendish undead natures, which prevented you from appearing on camera lest your horrifying appearances  shock the fragile sanity of internet denizens! Oh!
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on January 12, 2004, 01:57:02 PM
The online community has sanity?
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: Spriggan on January 15, 2004, 09:22:50 AM
umm I've been doing some planning on the NC (http://www.timewastersguide.com/VG/NickelCade/) page.  Mostly just organizeing eveything and giveing the location of things some type of consistency.  I'll be switing to another project in the next day or so, once I get the new distort faces section up with a different one for each person.  Since the pathing of most of the files have changed all the finished projects (except distort faces) have changed.  So if for some reason you want to see the original Flash Fell animations, or the fireworks prgram you need to use the new links that are provieded on this page.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: Spriggan on January 18, 2004, 07:57:04 AM
I've added seperalte distort programs for each person.  You can find them here (http://www.timewastersguide.com/VG/NickelCade/Games/DistortFaces/)  or through the NC link in the previous posts.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: Entsuropi on January 18, 2004, 02:28:26 PM
On the spriggan program, when you click the button to go to the next picture you get a blank page, then the picture again. On 42's, there is a blank page between the 2nd picture and it cycling back to the first. On Tages, clicking right does gives only blanks.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: Spriggan on January 19, 2004, 03:31:33 AM
The blank page is in there on purpose, it's an extra drawing surface if you want to dootle and not have someones face in the background, everyone has a balnk page.  Tages problem is easly fixed.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: Spriggan on January 19, 2004, 08:58:36 AM
Well here's an initial graphic on the ninja monkey:

(http://www.timewastersguide.com/VG/NickelCade/Pictures/monkey.gif)

This is the standstill grapic.  I'm going to make it animate a little but I haven't desided on how yet.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on January 19, 2004, 09:10:58 AM
sweet. Me likes.

We're obviously going to have to do a  Sprite-based comic with these characters.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: Spriggan on January 19, 2004, 09:41:29 AM
The funny thing is Flash doesn't do Sprites, it's all vector.  So I had to fake the old school look.  Hope they all comeout well.

oh and I decided that one of the monkeys enemies are going to be Japanese school girls that think the monkeys are cute and want to hug them.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on January 19, 2004, 09:43:23 AM
heh, that's kind of cool, going for the sprite look without using sprites. Just to be clear, when I say "we'll have to do a comic" I mean "someone with more time than me."
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: Spriggan on January 20, 2004, 07:07:24 AM
Well here's some animations for the game.

http://www.timewastersguide.com/VG/NickelCade/monkeywalk.swf

Just click on the flash program above and move the monkey left or right with the arrowkeys.  I'm going to add punching/jumping/ducking as I work out the animations.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: EUOL on January 20, 2004, 01:07:52 PM
So far so good!
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: JP Dogberry on January 21, 2004, 12:25:30 AM
Pretty cool, but the first thing that pops into my mind seeing that animation is "That monkey is doing something obscene to the ground". Sorry, but that's what it looks like, and that's what the general internet population will think.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on January 21, 2004, 12:41:57 AM
actually, I didn't think of it until you brought it up. I don't think the "general" internet community will think of it. Though, if you wan tot fix it, don't have his hips come forward when his hands go back.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: JP Dogberry on January 21, 2004, 12:54:52 AM
I just came out of high school, so I've had more recent and intense exposure to toilet humour. It's nothing major, I just thought I'd bring it up in case you don't want people to think that, which some will.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: Spriggan on January 21, 2004, 06:38:04 AM
Here's an updated demo.  jumping and a simple attack have been added, as well as friction and gravity.  I've also changed the run animation abit.

http://www.timewastersguide.com/VG/NickelCade/monkeywalk2.swf

click on the above flash movie to activate.  move the monkey with the arrow keys and use the A key to punch.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on January 21, 2004, 07:37:36 AM
i like. a fully functional jump-punch. Is he going to kick too?
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: Spriggan on January 21, 2004, 07:47:16 AM
actualy yes.  I haven't decided if I'm going to have two attack buttuns and an throw button, or just a single attack button and a throw button.  it'll probaly be the latter.  So instead of the jump punch it'll be a jump kick.  There'll be a crouch attack and I'm working on a combo timer so you can link attacks and such.  But I'm just kinda adding things as I get the animations done.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: Spriggan on January 21, 2004, 08:34:18 AM
hehe I was playing around with the speed of the movie and monkey and got this realy cool after image effect that makes him look like he's moveing realy fast.  I might keep it. ;D


Move not here
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: JP Dogberry on January 21, 2004, 10:23:02 PM
Nice. I like the exaggerated inertia, just like the old Mario games.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: Spriggan on January 22, 2004, 07:30:01 AM
ok not much changed at all, just added a duck/crouch to the monkey.  Before I do anymore on the monkey I think I'm going to start working on the rest of the game.  The code i've been useing makes it like an old school platform game (as JP mentioned).  I want to make the game more then just that.  I can do a Mario knock off realy easly, but I want to add something that makes this my game.  I'm hopeing the combat system I'm been envisioning will do that.  But first I need to get the object detection and such working.


http://www.timewastersguide.com/VG/NickelCade/monkeywalk2.swf
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: Lieutenant Kije on January 22, 2004, 09:50:05 PM
I've found that if you start the monkey running, and then have hit A for a punch while still holding the arrow key, the monkey punches and then starts sliding along like he's surfing.  You can even switch directions as he surfs, just so long as you don't let go of an arrow key.  If you let go for too long, he starts running again.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on January 22, 2004, 10:11:15 PM
I've found that if you punch you can't go left or right again unless you jump or duck first.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: Spriggan on January 23, 2004, 01:54:34 AM
The probalem SE mentioned is somehting thats easy to fix.  I'll have to look into JP's problem, but I think they're both related.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: Entsuropi on January 23, 2004, 08:15:34 PM
I get SE's problem, and i also managed to get the effect Kjie mentioned. You should leave it in as a combo move, where he keeps on punching everything in front of him.
Title: Re: Jan-Feb flash/web projects
Post by: Spriggan on February 09, 2004, 07:20:13 AM
Just a post to let you know I'm still working on the monkey game, also I'm redesigning the Advast ye site as well as another project.  Hopefully I can have things far enough along to post some files this week.  I should have a new monkey up, I've almost got platform/floor/wall detection working.