Going out in style

[fuzzyoctopus]

Sitting around arguing about what anarchy means now, boys?

And how old are we?

[Entsuropi]

By your reasoning Jam, the correct definition of terrorism is that used by the terrorists themselves, which is something along the lines of, 'Righteous blah blah struggle against blah blah christian crusaders', or some variation thereof.

Whereas in fact the actual definition is, 'Cowardly acts of sabotage commited by idiots too weak to fight like real men, aimed at causing political and economic disruption'.

[JP Dogberry]

But do terrorists call themselves terrorists? I thought they called themselves "Freedom Fighters" or something like that. I can't imagine they'd choose to name themselves terrorists, as opposed to Anarchists, who refer to themselves using the word.

[fuzzyoctopus]

http://www.ozyandmillie.org/2001/om20010603.html

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

JP, YOU are not the only type of anarchist who calls himself such. What you are talking about is ONE specific type of anarchy. It by no means encompasses the meaning of anarchy as a whole.

[Spriggan]

I think the looking in a Thesaurus sheds a lot of light on the word too:

Text: 1 absence of effective government or the resulting social disorder <complete anarchy followed the breakdown of communications>
Synonyms chaos, lawlessness, mobocracy, ochlocracy
Related Word confusion, disorder, disorganization
Idioms mob rule (or law), reign of terror
2
Synonyms ANARCHISM
3
Synonyms DISORDER 2, anarchism, distemper, misrule, riot

Now JP we know you're not that type of anarchist, I don't even know wich type there are more of in the world, but we all know the violent anarchists are the most outspoke.  These are the people that goto large orginized protests (like the g8 summet or world bank) and then turn them into violent riots.  Remember in Italy about 2-3 years ago where cops there had to kill some protestors?  Those were members of a professional arnarchist group that went around the world causeing violence in mass crowds hurting people and destroying propertiy.  Why?  Becasuse they beleave no one should own anythings and that there should be no laws.  Most people in the world don't even know that there is an "Utopian" section of anarchy.  I think SE is right, instead of assumeing that people know about you're type of anarchy you should assume that they don't and explaine your position.

[Spriggan]

Now here's another tearm

Entry Word: anarchism
Function: noun
Text: 1 a political theory opposed to all forms of government and advocating voluntary cooperation and interaction of individuals and groups in satisfying their common needs <the doubtful premises of anarchism about human nature>
Synonyms anarchy
Related Word utopianism; communism, Marxism, syndicalism
Contrasted Words absolutism, authoritarianism, dictatorship; elitism
2
Synonyms DISORDER 2, anarchy, distemper, misrule, riot

So here you have the "Philiophsy" aspect of it, which is what you, JP, beleave in.  The two words are obviosly related, yet have completly different meanings.

Note:  Both of these deffinitions are from Websters.

[JP Dogberry]

That's why I linked to www.anarchyfaq.org. It can explain it far better than I ever can.

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

all I'm really saying, JP, is that while the way you use "anarchy" is correct, it is incorrect to tell other people they're using it wrong, when they have used it correctly, just a different - more common, in fact - denotation.

[fuzzyoctopus]

Stacer, I hope you don't want your thread back.  It's kinda used. Slightly soiled.

[stacer]

Yeah, I figured it wasn't really ever going to get back on topic.