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General => Rants and Stuff => Topic started by: Mad Dr Jeffe on November 18, 2003, 08:37:31 PM

Title: Garry Kasparov or Agent Smith?
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on November 18, 2003, 08:37:31 PM: You be the judge!!! AN unoffical poll

Is this the photo of
A. Garry Kasparov

B Agent Smith

(http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20031118/i/ra2282344716.jpg)
Title: Re: Garry Kasparov or Agent Smith?
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on November 18, 2003, 09:09:19 PM: Who the heck is Garry Kasparov ?
Title: Re: Garry Kasparov or Agent Smith?
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on November 18, 2003, 09:15:02 PM: A chess grandmaster.... he's way gud
Title: Re: Garry Kasparov or Agent Smith?
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on November 18, 2003, 09:17:52 PM: Well it ain't agent Smith, so Garry must be cooler than I'd think.
Title: Re: Garry Kasparov or Agent Smith?
Post by: JP Dogberry on November 18, 2003, 09:25:37 PM: Remember, Agents can substantiate themselves into any person still plugged into the Matrix. Therefore, it's highly likely that this photo is in fact Agent Smith halfway through the process of taking over Gary Kasporov, during which time partial features of both entities would be visible.

That also means that A) Kasporov is now dead and B) the photo was taken before the events at the end of the first Matrix film.
Title: Re: Garry Kasparov or Agent Smith?
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on November 18, 2003, 09:28:27 PM: so uh... yeah.. how do they explain the deaths of people the agents take over?
Title: Re: Garry Kasparov or Agent Smith?
Post by: JP Dogberry on November 18, 2003, 09:33:27 PM: When an Agent takes over a person's form, you can't leave them lying around afterwards knowing what happened - that might cause people to realise what's going on. Therefore, when it happens, the person in question is unplugged, and "flushed" into the waste system, as we see happen to Neo in the first film.

I remember having evidence for this somewhere, but I forget where from. It makes a lot of sense though. It's not like the Agents have any regard for human life.

These people just disapear. I'm guessing...actually I haveno idea how they get away with it. Maybe that's the deal with missing persons?
Title: Re: Garry Kasparov or Agent Smith?
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on November 18, 2003, 09:35:48 PM: no: how do they explain it, in the context of being plugged in. "Hey, your mom was absorbed by a sentinel program, tough breaks kid," says the cop who delivers the news. "Sorry, there's no body. It was flushed."
Title: Re: Garry Kasparov or Agent Smith?
Post by: JP Dogberry on November 18, 2003, 09:39:33 PM: Ack. I had the wrong thing selected and hit enter, posting before I was finished. Read my edit.

Also, there is a body IN the Matrix, it's the real-world body that gets flushed. After the Agent gets killed or leaves this particular body, the original form comes back and remains, er, dead.
Title: Re: Garry Kasparov or Agent Smith?
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on November 18, 2003, 09:42:38 PM: so it's a plot hole!
Title: Re: Garry Kasparov or Agent Smith?
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on November 18, 2003, 09:48:07 PM: Well remember that the dead bodies of smith in the first one became the people they once were upon death. So the death of the security guards, chopper pilot and so on are just acts of random violence against people. We can assume that once the agents are done taking over people that they become themselves again, without any memory of their situation. (sure explains holes in the memory doesn't it.)
Title: Re: Garry Kasparov or Agent Smith?
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on November 18, 2003, 09:57:14 PM: i mean more for their families, if you have a lot of people finding holes, they disbelieve and unplug, so you need a cover story.