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Movies and TV / Re: Doctor Who
« on: July 05, 2010, 01:04:14 PM »
I think the Third Doctor is a place to start, then catch Thom Baker.
That will given you a good idea of the stories that went into creating the canon.  Just remember we're talking about 1960's TV and be kind about special effects and setting.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: How did you find out about Brandon Sanderson?
« on: July 03, 2010, 08:20:49 AM »
I overheard an Orangutan discussing WoT with a Chimpanzee.  The Tamarin's were completely oblivious to Sanderson, being great fans of Dave Farland and Orson Scott Card.  That of course lead me to Sanderson's website and here from there.

P.S. the Orangutan was called Nea and the Chimp was called Styve. ;P

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Reading Excuses / Re: June 28 - Renoard - Redmantle Chapter 1b
« on: July 02, 2010, 10:36:10 AM »
@ Silk and Valkemphyre. I'm aware of the parallels to Hamlet, and they're intentional, but I'm absolutely not novelizing Hamlet.  I may have bitten off more than I can chew, but the scope and scale is a whole lot larger and more politically complex.

I have drawn on five classic pieces of English, Russian and German literature, but I'm not simply stealing from them even if it looks like it in certain passages.  It'll get a lot more evocative in chapters 2-4. I'm just hoping that won't be a discouragement for the reader to continue.

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Reading Excuses / Thought this might help with writer's block.
« on: July 02, 2010, 07:40:39 AM »
Okay the plan is for visual artists, but I thought to myself, hmmm.  Self I said, You know drawing could get the creative juice flowing at those times, because it's off topic and takes the pressure off. Self answered, And you could simply extend it to trying the same thing writing badly on purpose etc.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?pid=1485919&id=1217147568

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Books / Re: What are you reading, part 3
« on: July 02, 2010, 07:17:33 AM »
Cool enough.  Would love to do that.

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I wasn't trying to create a HOID acronym or start such a negative reaction.  I just think that unless one of three people say otherwise, it seems like Hoid isn't really a name, just something he labeled himself with.

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Reading Excuses / Re: June 21 - Renoard - Redmantle Chapter 1
« on: July 02, 2010, 02:03:06 AM »
Thanks I'll see if I can figure a way to incorporate that.  What I'm using and what I'm most comfortable with is limited omniscience.  The narrator has the whole story after the fact, but, like the reader, he experiences it in scenes and reverie where he occasionally shadows the POV of a given character, then moves on.  The narrator is more of a "camera" than a truly omniscient narrator.  He is a character however and I'm working at getting his voice right, while transitioning onto and off of a given character.

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Wow.  Interrupting WoT to read Name of the Wind is like interrupting a filet mignon at a blue ribbon restaurant to eat beef wellington at a table across the room.

By the time you get back it may be too cold to be palatable and you'll likely be too full to eat.

That said, every time I've tried to sit down and read New Spring it's been so mind numbingly boring I've not been able to push on through.

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Dan Wells / Re: Buy Dan Bacon?
« on: June 30, 2010, 07:14:01 AM »
For some reason this thread makes me think of Abraham Lincoln beards made of bacon.  Dan Wells in a bacon beard. . . .
hrmmmmm

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Ummm I've never read or watched Twilight, so I was unaware of child Gods.  I was just using child God to refer to paternity not developmental maturity.  For me, it was the use of the term Elemental God's rather than any association with a specific previous work.

Using the names of God to write a respectful fiction is little different from writing Apocraphal works like Maccabbees.  But then I wouldn't want you to violate your conscience on that.  It partly depends on the faith you follow.

Again there was plenty to like about the story, it's just easier to articulate the objections, and the forematter does tend to eclipse the chapter because of the drama factor.

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I liked the touching scene where the creature presents it's child to El(im) and I was okay with the Prelude aside from the fact that the cosmology it presents is pretty flawed (see below).  I also liked the pacing and characterization in Chapter 1, although I was put off by wondering if Kyrie (Kyrie elaison?) is the baby that was presented to El(im).  You have a good command of setting and pace.  And mostly your narrative shifts voice appropriately for the character in focus, with a few odd notes.

On the negative side, I came up with essentially the same  three issues that Underdog, Shi and Comatose did and two more of my own.  Elementals are not necessarily overdone, because few ever do them according to the legends.  It's as if the D&D parodies are the only text out there, so a "cannonical" rendition would be refreshing and very different.  But then, by making them child gods you've pretty much taken off on a tangent as well.

For instance Faer Folk are elementals, as are classical Djinn, gnomes etc.  If you did them straight then you might be on to something.

I had a problem with the use of the almost Hebrew names.  I've written fantasy that used a good deal more Hebraic names for god etc., but the reframing of all those terms into something so allegorical just seemed like a parody to me.  I'm curious why you pluralized El (and why there is a camp named El in the plural), when there was the perfectly good Elohim already nicely pluralized.

The one thing I had a problem with that no-one has touched on is the cosmology, which seems to have demoted the "creator of all things" to a lesser being that is made of matter, bounded by time occupies space and in general is composed of the "things" he and she are supposed to have created.  It got recursive.

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Movies and TV / Re: Doctor Who
« on: June 29, 2010, 04:02:27 AM »
Ummm the machine makes clones.  There is very little change from generation to generation and the doctor use the term clone several times.

The power of Smith's portrayal is that when I think back to the episode, I naturally substitute Smith for the seventh doctor. :P

Of course they may decide to make River Sun(g) into the Ra of the river or Cleopatra.

On a side note: It occurs to me that in formal dress, Smith rather resembles a young William Hartnell, the real first Doctor.

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Reading Excuses / Re: June 28 - Renoard - Redmantle Chapter 1b
« on: June 29, 2010, 02:55:40 AM »
@ Comatose

Yeah.  That helps.  :)

This is the point where I say, "Yeah.  Meant to do that.  Yeah. That's the ticket."

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Reading Excuses / Re: Email List + Submission Dates
« on: June 29, 2010, 02:05:19 AM »
No WE aren't changing anything. It's not my place to change things for anyone else.  I can't send to the All [at] RE address, so I created a genuine listserv.  Anyone who is a member on Silk's list and WANTS to use it can.  The address is the last one. ;P  And I'm sorry for the spam, it was a way of working out kinks.  You should have seen the list of random bounces I deleted.

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Movies and TV / Re: Doctor Who
« on: June 29, 2010, 01:59:27 AM »
I think smith has grown into the best or one of the best doctors.  He manages to incorporate the curmudgeon of the First Doctor the practical brilliance of the third doctor and the smarm that only Tom Bakker could summon.  In a very real sense he ties all the doctors back into a single personality.

When I was a kid I agreed, Bow-ties were coooool.  Now not so much.  The problem is they have this wonderful cast (even rory is pretty useful) but the writing has suffered.  The Pandorica was a good idea, but crammed into a two episode arch at the end of the season it was kind of pathetic.

Of course Doctor's elimination and reintegration into the universe frees him to become Rassalon, and there is no reason the Doctor's time lock would continue to work.

Maybe River is the now sane Master. . . . But no, she'll be that female clone.  Hurray for the shear absurdity and long live the series. :P

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