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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Magic System compare/contrast
« on: August 02, 2009, 02:50:57 AM »
Right, yeah, so I'd say lifeless win that in terms of cost effectiveness.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Magic System compare/contrast
« on: August 02, 2009, 02:17:03 AM »
I thought Koloss had five spikes, which would require six people (5 killed for the spikes, 1 to put the spikes in).  My memory on where this was mentioned is vague enough that I don't want to look it up, though.

I remember two spikes.

You may be thinking of Kandra, their "blessings" are two spikes each.

Perhaps, I thought that both were two spikes though.  I'll have to check.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Ultimate Brandon Sanderson Showdown
« on: August 02, 2009, 02:15:15 AM »
Indestructible walls, whether they're visible or not qualify as impenetrable force fields, right? Citation: the city of Elantris before the earthquake.

Chapter and page number where it says Elantris' walls are indestructible? Not to mention that Elantris is clearly a very intensive project, and might have wards that a single Elantrian can't make alone.  Frankly, there have been no indication of impenetrable magical barriers in Elantris.

Vin's so paranoid that she wouldn't touch a sword because it was just sitting there acting suspicious. Right. Since none of the worlds we have visited so far have any concept of cursed items (including people in Warbreaker, seeing as how only a few people know about Nightblood), nobody would have any reason to be suspicious of a sword. As for Raoden and Sazed, they are scholars. They study things, which often involves touching said things.

Frankly, yes, she is.  Remember that Nightblood's aura makes good people want to not touch it.  And Raoden and Sazed wouldn't take time to examine a sword while in a fight.

Should it be a gladiator-style fight, and the contestants enter the arena at the same time, Vasher merely has to use any means to make his opponent touch the sword for a split second. He would probably be able to talk most of them into it. Especially since he can appear however he wants. :)

Bullshit.  Most of the people here are smart enough to wonder why their opponent is trying to get them to touch his weapon instead of just using its sharp parts on them.











@Wilson, yes, exactly my point with Nightblood. 

However, Daa seemed to me like a straight firing, unaimable thing.  It has only been used in barrages with many people firing them after all.  And have we actually seen what Aon Shao does?  If it's so useful, why didn't he use in in Teod?

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Magic System compare/contrast
« on: August 02, 2009, 01:59:54 AM »
I thought Koloss had five spikes, which would require six people (5 killed for the spikes, 1 to put the spikes in).  My memory on where this was mentioned is vague enough that I don't want to look it up, though.

I remember two spikes.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Magic System compare/contrast
« on: August 02, 2009, 01:26:06 AM »
On the Lifeless vs Koloss, Lifeless needs one corpse and one person with breath and you get two fighters, Koloss needs three live humans and you end with one superhuman fighter.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Ultimate Brandon Sanderson Showdown
« on: August 02, 2009, 01:21:30 AM »
And where have we seen an impenetrable force field/shield in Elantris?  Chapter and page number please.


Also, curious?  Vin is downright paranoid, she's also too good of a person to not be repelled by Nightblood like those two mooks were.  Several other characters like Saze and Raoden would have no interest in Nightblood.  Whether Marsh is attracted depends on how Nightblood's aura and Hemalurgy interact.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Ultimate Brandon Sanderson Showdown
« on: August 02, 2009, 12:19:01 AM »
An Elantrian (Elantrisian?) can take a beating before dying, and they could draw Vin into the bottom of the ocean or out into space in less than a minute.

And in the time it takes to draw that extremely complex Aon, Vin has put a coin through his head.  Or hit him hard enough to interrupt his drawing.

Vasher wins as long as he has Nightblood though. Vasher sits in a corner hiding as a Grey, his opponent touches Nightblood (sheathless) and dies. The end. :D

Not quite.  A number of characters in this tourney are too good for Nightblood's aura of attraction to work on them.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Ultimate Brandon Sanderson Showdown
« on: August 01, 2009, 10:51:02 PM »
Wilson, a question.  If Raoden can draw these complicated symbols in the air fast enough to be relevant in combat because of practice, why doesn't Vin get the same benefit for her coin throwing?  No doubt, an Elantrian is a huge threat if they have time to draw their Aons, but a Coinshot's coins are way to fast.  Against a mistborn who has the benefit of pewter as well?  No, I'd say that Shan has pretty good chances against Raoden, even if she would lose more often then not.


Raoden would mulch the Awakeners (including Susebron probably) and Spook, and could probably hold his own against Kel or Saze, but against Marsh, TLR, or Vin he would go down hard.  Remember, Vin probably won't be standing still.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Ultimate Brandon Sanderson Showdown
« on: August 01, 2009, 07:59:04 AM »
Round 1: Vin has to reach into her money pouch and bring a coin up to in between her center of mass and Raoden's head.  Raoden has to draw a complicated symbol, the result of which might not be able to take down a Pewter burning Vin in one hit.  Even giving Raoden time to practice, I give this to Vin.

Round 2: I very much doubt that Dilaf is tougher than an Inquisitor.  Dilaf makes a good showing, but loses to the Survivor.

Round 3: Too dependent on terrain and the status of Sazed's metalminds, but the fight would probably go to Susebron more often then not.  However, I see this devolving into a philosophical discussion, Suse strikes me as the kind to try to diffuse violence with talk which Saze will eagerly accept.  Sazed takes this due to his better education.

Round 4: This depends entirely on Nightblood and TLR's reaction to it.  I'm going to give this to Vasher, because I don't think that TLR can resist Nightbloold.

Round 5: If Spook can burn Pewter, then Viv loses.  If he can't, then it's a contest.  I think that Spook would still win most of the time even without Pewter, simply because he has more real fighting experience.

Round 6: A good swordsman vs TLR-lite?  Sorry Denth, Marsh takes this.



Round 7: Vin vs Kelsier.  A friendly sparring match that ends when Kelsier calls it and declares Vin to have surpassed him, that she is possibly the finest Allomancer he's ever seen, and that he couldn't be more proud of her.  Vin wins.

Round 8: Sazed vs Vasher.  I don't think Nightblood will be getting to Sazed, and with Feruchemy Vasher is outclassed in all the physical catagories.  I see Sazed getting another win.

Round 9: Spook vs Marsh.  Marsh takes Spook apart.  If Marsh is himself, then this is only figurative.



Round 10: Vin vs Sazed.  Another friendly sparring match.  I can't see Sazed beating Vin in any kind of physical fight.  They're too much on the same side for any other kind of fight though. 



Round 11: Vin vs Marsh.  Either a fight to the death or a friendly sparring match, depending on who's at the steering wheel.  Without 12(!) other Inquisitors to back him up though, Marsh is going down either way.


These types of analysis are fun, I might run them through a different tournament structure later.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: **SPOILERS! The Shards of Adonalsium
« on: August 01, 2009, 06:30:12 AM »
But it might be that you could, theoretically, do the FTL thing?


I have a quantum mechanics question for you btw, should I pm you?

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: **SPOILERS! The Shards of Adonalsium
« on: July 31, 2009, 02:59:47 PM »
What about Alcubierie (sp?) Drives?

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Warbreaker: Free Ebook
« on: July 23, 2009, 03:23:52 AM »
You would have to Hemalurgically endow the subject with Scadrial codes

I don't see how this follows from the rest of your post.

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I might just take you up on your offer shadow, but later, when I don't have schoolwork to do.

Also, to respond to your "Go take a look at Warbreaker...".  Only a series would have a problem of repeating previous plot points.  This is why I made no complaints of such in Mistborn.

Huh?  I never said anything about Warbreaker in this thread.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Warbreaker: Free Ebook
« on: July 20, 2009, 04:12:53 AM »
Incompatible?  Spook got Preservation's powers from Ruin, how in the world do you get incompatible from that?  And why would you need any specific spiritual codes when you are getting your powers stolen?

And I could see the victim needing the spiritual codes for the magic in question that's being stolen, but the explanation you quoted at me seems to imply that you can take any power from someone who has it, and give it to anyone.  Yes, he specifically mentions Feruchemy and presumably meant to say Allomancy when he said Hemalurgy, but every other part of the explanation (Fooling the Spiritual DNA) sounds like it could apply to the other magic systems just as well. 

Also, why should Hemalurgy only work on Allomancy and Feruchemy?  Ruin is the primal force of destruction and decay, it makes sense for him to be able to use the magics of the other Shards against them.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Warbreaker: Free Ebook
« on: July 20, 2009, 01:22:00 AM »
You can't. In order to use Hemalurgy, you need to have the right spiritual and genetic codes. People on the Warbreaker don't have those same codes as the ones on Scadrial.

And here I thought that you needed those codes for Allomancy and/or Feruchemy, and that for Hemalurgy you just needed Ruin to be around.  I'd need to check my copy of HoA, but I'm pretty sure that for Hemalurgy you just need a spike of the right Metal (probably Atium for Breaths), a person with the powers you want that you wouldn't mind dead, and Ruin's presence.

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