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Title: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: Entsuropi on August 07, 2004, 07:54:08 PM
So, I've watched all of DS9. It was brilliant, but now i need something else to watch. I have farscape seasons 1 - 3, and have been informed that season 4 was crap (they got told there was no season 5 only at the end of filming so they had to go back and redo it so it made sense without another season -  and failed basically). Babylon 5 has been recommended.

TNG is always a good bet. Voyager would be a distant second choice to TNG - I actively dislike several cast members on Voyager. Enterprise is just a watered down TNG with few interesting characters.

I'm going to ignore Firefly for the time being. Stargate SG:1, I watched the first episode on tape and it failed to make me care sufficiently to watch the other 2 episodes I was lent.

So what else is there to watch?
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: stacer on August 08, 2004, 02:15:31 AM
It's not SF, but if you haven't watched 24, I'd highly recommend it.
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on August 08, 2004, 02:53:44 PM
Dead Zone
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: 42 on August 09, 2004, 01:06:52 AM
The 4400 is pretty cool. But it only has 6 episodes.

Stargate SG1 is also cool.
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on August 09, 2004, 10:52:40 PM
Was the episode of SG1 you watched taped from TV? Because if it was, you may want to find that episode on DVD, as it were to be the uncutted pilot episode. That may get you into it.
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: Fellfrosch on August 10, 2004, 02:50:32 AM
Have you seen Cowboy Bebop? It's the only TV series to battle DS9 for my affections, and I consider the two of them to be the best TV shows (sci-fi or not) ever made.
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: Entsuropi on August 10, 2004, 04:01:05 AM
Seen all of cowboy beebop. And the pilot was the official VHS.
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on August 10, 2004, 08:48:05 AM
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Was the episode of SG1 you watched taped from TV? Because if it was, you may want to find that episode on DVD, as it were to be the uncutted pilot episode. That may get you into it.


Or, you might want to find an episode or two from Season Two or three, so that you can watch one that doesn't suck really badly.
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: Slant on August 10, 2004, 09:25:10 PM
Two words:  Dark Angel
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: Spriggan on August 11, 2004, 06:21:52 AM
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Two words:  Dark Angel


But only the first season.  The second season was so horribly bad it hurt to watch.
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on August 11, 2004, 06:23:10 AM
Firefly is good. Really good.
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: Slant on August 11, 2004, 09:32:13 PM
How about Mutant X?  I've never seen it, but I hear good things about it.
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: 42 on August 11, 2004, 10:19:35 PM
Mutant X has some annoying filler plot-lines. The acting isn't too bad when you realize how beautifully the actors pull off some terrible diologue. The characterization is poor at best. Mutant X is kind of the "Shake and Bake" of gourmet ScifFi.

If you looking for vintage SciFi, I'd recommend X-Files. Going further back, shows like Beauty and the Beast and Highlander were pretty cool.
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on August 11, 2004, 10:51:56 PM
I know these may not be SciFi, but what about the old live action shows like The Hulk, and Spider-Man, and Batman, etc?
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: Slant on August 12, 2004, 02:05:45 PM
Ugh!  Beauty & the Beast was pretty low on my list.  For somebody who claimed to hate violence, Vincent sure racked up an impressive body count.  

Of the older shows, you can't go wrong with Twilight Zone.  If you are looking for superhero stuff, I heartily recommend the Tick in both animated and live action format.  

And if you are looking for animation, Thundarr and Pirates of Dark Water are both very noteworthy.
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on August 12, 2004, 02:55:01 PM
ugh. The live action TIck was pretty lame.

Watch the V miniseries (not the serial).
also, Battlestar Galactica was cool, imo. And the Buck ROgers TV series. Yeah, good times.
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on August 12, 2004, 11:11:56 PM
Highlander.

I loved all of V.

Babylon 5 is the best show ever.

And I'm enjoying Stargate SG1, of which I did not see the first episode until I'd seen a bunch of episodes in seasons 4 through 6.

I liked Firefly but had to turn episode 3 off halfway through because it was offensive.
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: stacer on October 01, 2005, 11:20:18 PM
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Two words: Dark Angel

But only the first season.  The second season was so horribly bad it hurt to watch.


Bringing up a dead thread, because I just finished season 2 and I almost agree. Season 2 just went in a completely different direction and has nothing to do with season 1. They had so many cool directions that they could have gone, and they tried to do comedy with steelheads? Dogmen? I mean, I liked Joshua a bit, but the whole point of the first season was that it was grounded in somewhat of a reality. Killing off her "siblings" and bringing in all the crazy looking mutants just made it into the same old obvious racial thing, rather than the clandestine, exciting race from the secret Manticore base, being chased down, etc. And the Halloween episode! Ug.

And all the keeping Max and Logan apart really, really ticked me off. For a while there in the middle of the season it was as if they forgot Logan was still a character.

Okay, so I do agree. Season 2 sucked. I wish they would make a movie that just ignored that Season 2 existed. :)
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: Entsuropi on October 02, 2005, 09:11:04 AM
Dead thread :)

So in the end, since i posted this thread i've seen all of Babylon 5, 3.5 seasons on TNG, 1 season of Voyager, 1 season of Enterprise and Firefly. Also the 4th season of Farscape.

Good stuff :P Except Enterprise that is. The characters on that show annoy the hell out of me - the captain is so stereotypically gung-ho-American it's disgusting. Got a problem? Shoot it!
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on October 02, 2005, 11:11:17 AM
whats wrong with shooting things...
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: Entsuropi on October 02, 2005, 11:14:00 AM
He's meant to be on a mission to meet and greet other races, and in every episode when he meets a new race he shoots them! It's like having a sociopath being a diplomat.
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: Mad Dr Jeffe on October 02, 2005, 11:33:59 AM
well at least that has a historical basis...

Just look at nice ol Captain Cook.
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: Brenna on October 02, 2005, 12:54:33 PM
I've never seen Enterprise, but the captain sounds like the war version of Captain Kirk.  Kirk's normal mode being "Find a new race and sleep with one of them."
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: Oldie Black Witch on October 02, 2005, 02:59:55 PM
Mmm. Pirates of Dark Water is awesome. But someone really needs to kill the monkey bird.
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: Archon on October 02, 2005, 11:31:14 PM
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It's like having a sociopath being a diplomat

I like it...
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: Spriggan on October 03, 2005, 01:41:06 AM
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Bringing up a dead thread, because I just finished season 2 and I almost agree. Season 2 just went in a completely different direction and has nothing to do with season 1.


That's because James Cameron, who created the show, left as the creative director after the first season as per his contract.
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: stacer on October 03, 2005, 01:59:19 AM
Aha. No wonder. He came back to direct the season finale of season 2, but man, they really took it in a crazy direction. It really looked nothing like the world he created in season 1.
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: Spriggan on October 03, 2005, 07:33:32 AM
Ya all the sudden it became post apocalyptic somehow.
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: stacer on October 03, 2005, 11:56:05 AM
Well, it was always postapocalyptic--the "pulse" was a terrorist bomb that threw them into a depression. But the whole nomlies=dog/lizard/strange mutant X-Men took it out of the realm of an original show that explored a dystopia with a slight SF twist to it (genetic engineering) to a full-blown science fantasy X-Men ripoff.
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: Spriggan on October 03, 2005, 12:31:23 PM
True, though when I think post-apocalyptic I think Mad Max and I didn't get that feel from the first season yet I did from the second.  Though I haven't watched it in years so I'm basing this solely on memories.
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: Fellfrosch on October 03, 2005, 01:09:13 PM
I loved Pirates of Dark Water. Is that on DVD?
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on October 05, 2005, 10:59:00 AM
What about Tale Spin? Huh? That was freaking awesome.
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: Spriggan on October 05, 2005, 11:05:42 AM
Or Duck Tails?!?
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on October 05, 2005, 11:46:23 AM
Yes, I was just waiting and wanting someone else to mention it. Not to forget Darkwing Duck as well. Although, that's more for the kids that couldn't handle Batman, and instead found Darkwing Duck to be a much lighter Batman.
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on October 05, 2005, 11:57:28 AM
YOU SHUT YOUR FREAKIN MOUTH!

DW rocks Batman's universe. THat show was awesome
Many episodes did make it to VHS, but I've never seen a DVD.
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: Spriggan on October 05, 2005, 01:31:18 PM
I always thought Darkwing Duck was for people who  thought Aquaman was too complex.



;D
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: Fellfrosch on October 05, 2005, 01:36:41 PM
I tried to like Darkwing Duck, but the daughter was too annoying.
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: Spriggan on October 05, 2005, 01:40:27 PM
I always took Goslin (SP?) as a Penny (from Inspector gadget) type character except annoying and not too bright and Gizmo-Duck was a retarded Brain.
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on October 05, 2005, 01:45:24 PM
Darkwing encompasses the satire of many hero traditions

also, I'm sorry spriggan. They haven't made anything for you yet. Everyone assumes you can at least fathom either DW or Aquaman. For the man who can do neither... well, I guess you could always watch Teletubbies.
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: 42 on October 05, 2005, 01:48:41 PM
I don't know if Spriggan is to the Teletubbies level yet.

The satire of Darkwing Duck was kind of weak. He's sort of a banal version of the Tick.
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on October 05, 2005, 02:06:18 PM
I really don't think DW was trying to do the same thing as the Tick, frankly. They have totally different approaches to the genre.
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: Chimera on October 05, 2005, 03:24:45 PM
I have to say I wasn't a fan of Darkwing Duck. But I *loved* Ducktales and Chip N' Dale's Rescue Rangers.
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: The Jade Knight on October 05, 2005, 03:50:12 PM
I miss the Tick to no small degree.

SPOOOON!
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on October 06, 2005, 12:19:11 PM
Darkwing Duck was great. I think it and Duck Tales were the two best.

But anyway, need more sci-fi. Need more sci-fi that doesn't have horror and sex in it.
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: Fellfrosch on October 06, 2005, 02:20:27 PM
I like horror. But not in visual mediums, for some reason.
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: Spriggan on October 06, 2005, 02:29:07 PM
That's because instead of making it scary they make it gory since it's easier to do.
Title: Re: Need more SCI FI!
Post by: 42 on October 06, 2005, 02:59:14 PM
There's a big difference between scary and gory. I like scary movies, but rarely does that coinside with being gory. Gore doesn't do anything for me, except make me sick. But I like suspenseful stuff, like when you hear the munching music in Jaws.