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Reading Excuses / ReadingExcuses-0214-fireflyz-WrittenInBlood-CH9-VLS
« on: February 13, 2011, 03:31:28 PM »
Previous Summaries:

Prologue:  In Media Res
  The prologue introduces us to Mathieu Bragadin, the protagonist.  As the title suggests, the reader is thrown into the midst of the conflict.


CH1:  What Does a Man Do?
  Mathieu is finally returning home with the army.  His entire life has been spent serving in the armies of the Doge.  The Doge's daughter (Doga) has recently made peace and is calling the army home to be mustered out.  As his comrades celebrate, Mathieu finds himself questioning his future in this new era of peace.


CH2:  Two Mistresses. 

Mathieu reacquaints himself with Servenza.  He seeks out his best friend, a prostitute named Cassandra. 


CH3:  The Flower of Battle

Despite misgivings, Mathieu begins his new life as a civilian, training young nobles in the art of dueling.


CH4:  The Making of an Enemy

Mathieu begins his work as a garzon of the rapier, but soon faces complications.


CH5:  A Color of Many Shades

Mathieu tells Cassandra of Carrera.  Cass urges him to be careful, but Mathieu can't get the past out of his mind.


CH6:  To Wear a Mask

Mathieu and Eduardo head out for a night of celebration. 


CH7:A Matter of Satisfaction

Mathieu recieves word of his investment and lets his emotions get the better of him...to what cost?

CH8:  When the Tongue Cuts Like the Sword



Mathieu and Carrera come to a resolution.




Current Summary:



CH9:Dancing to the Piper's Tune


Mathieu recuperates at the Bent Man.  He is just beginning to realize the consequences of his actions.

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Reading Excuses / Re: Feedback from the Gatekeepers
« on: February 12, 2011, 02:53:52 AM »
I just started querying again this week after getting all the feedback from my alpha readers on my latest revision (post agents advice).  Good news is I've already receieved a request for a partial.  Nothing too special, just first few chapters. 

Funny thing is, after the initial euphoria wore off, I kept thinking, how good are my first 3 chapters?  Do I pull the reader in enough?  Is it alright that the arc starts off on a level and then begins  to ratchet up the tension?  Is the ascent too slow?  ARGH!  Haha, isn't that the way it always is? 

I've reworked my first chapter to get rid of the flashback.  If anyone cares to see and give feedback before I submit, let me know.  Offers good for the next few hours.  I'm reading over the chapters again and again, but I'm planning on submitting tonight.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed.  If they ask for more I'll let you all know!

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Reading Excuses / Re: Email List + Submission Dates
« on: February 12, 2011, 12:21:26 AM »
I'd like to submit my next chapter.

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Thanks, that does help a lot.  I don't think that having a unique system like that is bad at all.  I think it can help differentiate your work and could be a strong selling point, as long as the reader can grasp the concepts fairly early on.  I'm sure that in rewrites it will be much easier to do as you have all the framework.  Sounds like you've done a lot of homework on this and that's always good. 

My only question is with the mejj ending.  It makes me think of Indian (India, not Native Americans) cultures.  I'm not sure why this is and it could be only related to me, but if others think that as well you might want to consider that.

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The exposition is a bit heavy in places.  I think that once you add the descriptions in, it will even out.  The dialogue was pretty good throughout.

She flushed. “Not really … he just thought I should put the idea in the had that I would be impressed by you deciding fight"
That sentence doesn't make sense, I think you just messed up some of the wording.  Also, I think that you should have some sort of descriptor before the next sentence ( he wasn't that crude).  Otherwise, it feels like one long sentence and as it's refuting the previous statement, it feels awkward.  A sigh, snort, chuckle, grin, or something of that nature would help differentiate between the two.

Instead of having the number 20 and 60, I think it should be written out.  Better yet you could use something like a score and threescore.  That's something you have to decide, but definitely have it written out.

I'm having trouble with all of the different terms.  There are so many that it's really hard to keep them separated.  I know its early in the story yet, but I feel that either the terms should be dialed down or better explained.  I don't mind the steep learning curve, but I think others might and it is a little heavy.

Having said that, if I were reading this in a book, I'd be intrigued enough to read on.  I liked the prose, although I still think the lack of description is hurting the story.  I'm glad that we got Jhuz's reaction.  Up until this point I didn't realize how naive/young/green he was.  Now that I do, it throws the previous chapters into a whole new light.  I missed the first chapter or two so maybe that was already stated.  Either way, I really liked the fact that he wasn't perfect and didn't realize what was going on.  Hopefully he begins to mature/grow and we see him do that as the story progresses (and still fail a few times along the way). 

All in all, a good chapter.  I'm interested to see how the scouting goes, how the new commander handles things, and if the Legion will be able to stay cohesive after such disastrous blows.

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Reading Excuses / Re: ReadingExcuses-0207-fireflyz-WrittenInBlood-CH8-VLS
« on: February 09, 2011, 12:42:09 AM »
Thanks for the fast feedback!

I just wanted to make some quick remarks.

@hubay.  Thanks for the suggestion regarding the wheel lock point.  I really like that sentence.  I like to think I'm good at killing my darlings, but that one managed to slip by.  Your suggestion is simple and still conveys what it needs to :-)

As to Mathieu taking the shot anyway, I'll just point out that he's recently back from the wars (and suffering from ptsd), he's just had some very bad financial news, he's been upset over Carrera due to their history, and when given the chance Carrera wanted to continue the duel when Mathieu was injured.  Share and share alike?  I don't think Mathieu's decision was the most honorable.  I struggled with it, but I had to be real to the character.  And I think the character, in that split second decision, isn't thinking of honor.  It's unfortunate, but I've never liked heroes without flaws.  As to your last comment, I think you're going to like the next chapter alot.

@akoebel
I too worry that the main arc is a little slow in appearing.  I've had half a dozen alpha readers go through it though and they haven't seemed to mind.  I think it might be the nature of a single chapter a week as I do think it's a fast read up to the introduction of the conflict.  Having said that, I think I need to get more first time readers because it is definitely a pause for concern.  Thanks for pointing it out..I've got some thinking to do.

As to the richochet, Mathieu was facing Carrera with a profile view, his right leg forward.  The ball struck the inside of his thigh where his stiletto was.  It struck his stiletto hilt and richocheted off.  The leg still took the brunt of the force and shards from the hilt/ball hit his leg.  I might need to work on that part to make it clearer to the reader. 

During this timeframe flintlocks haven't been invented yet.  Initially, firearms were fired using slow burning matches that were really pieces of rope.  The invention of the trigger used that to lower the match to the touch hole.  This led to a variety of issues.  Outright misfires of course, but also an unpredictable delay in firing.  Wheel locks were the next step in the evolution, utilizing an internal firing mechanism that still had misfires and a delay, but much more predictable when they did fire.  Flintlocks came after as a simpler mechanism that was stillmore predictable than the matchlock.

You're quite correct that the rifling had more to do with accuracy than the trigger mechanism.  In Mathieu's time, wheellocks are a new, rare invention, and the predictability of the firing made them easier to aim and thereby more accurate than matchlocks, though not nearly as accurate as the rifled flintlock or percussion. 

Thanks again for the feedback, definitely some things to look at!

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Reading Excuses / ReadingExcuses-0207-fireflyz-WrittenInBlood-CH8-VLS
« on: February 06, 2011, 02:33:51 PM »
Previous Summaries:

Prologue:  In Media Res
  The prologue introduces us to Mathieu Bragadin, the protagonist.  As the title suggests, the reader is thrown into the midst of the conflict.


CH1:  What Does a Man Do?
  Mathieu is finally returning home with the army.  His entire life has been spent serving in the armies of the Doge.  The Doge's daughter (Doga) has recently made peace and is calling the army home to be mustered out.  As his comrades celebrate, Mathieu finds himself questioning his future in this new era of peace.


CH2:  Two Mistresses. 

Mathieu reacquaints himself with Servenza.  He seeks out his best friend, a prostitute named Cassandra. 


CH3:  The Flower of Battle

Despite misgivings, Mathieu begins his new life as a civilian, training young nobles in the art of dueling.


CH4:  The Making of an Enemy

Mathieu begins his work as a garzon of the rapier, but soon faces complications.


CH5:  A Color of Many Shades

Mathieu tells Cassandra of Carrera.  Cass urges him to be careful, but Mathieu can't get the past out of his mind.


CH6:  To Wear a Mask

Mathieu and Eduardo head out for a night of celebration. 


CH7:A Matter of Satisfaction

Mathieu recieves word of his investment and lets his emotions get the better of him...to what cost?

Current Summary:



CH8:  When the Tongue Cuts Like the Sword



Mathieu and Carrera come to a resolution.

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Reading Excuses / Re: ReadingExcuses-0131-fireflyz-WrittenInBlood-CH7-VLS
« on: February 05, 2011, 02:16:47 AM »
Thanks for the feedback! 

A quick note on Cold Ones.  Their temperature is significantly lower than normal humans.  This means they won't sweat as easily, but it also means they feel the cold more than others.  I get where you're coming from hubay.  The drawback to a reading group is that you only get a chapter a week.  There are over 40 chapters in the novel and the first dozen are pretty short.  I think that having to wait several weeks to get there is likely exacerbating the problem.  Rest assured, we're on the cusp. 

I hope you all enjoy the next few chapters.

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Reading Excuses / Re: Email List + Submission Dates
« on: February 05, 2011, 02:12:49 AM »
I'd like to submit again.

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Reading Excuses / ReadingExcuses-0131-fireflyz-WrittenInBlood-CH7-VLS
« on: January 31, 2011, 02:34:04 AM »
Previous Summaries:

Prologue:  In Media Res
  The prologue introduces us to Mathieu Bragadin, the protagonist.  As the title suggests, the reader is thrown into the midst of the conflict.


CH1:  What Does a Man Do?
  Mathieu is finally returning home with the army.  His entire life has been spent serving in the armies of the Doge.  The Doge's daughter (Doga) has recently made peace and is calling the army home to be mustered out.  As his comrades celebrate, Mathieu finds himself questioning his future in this new era of peace.


CH2:  Two Mistresses. 

Mathieu reacquaints himself with Servenza.  He seeks out his best friend, a prostitute named Cassandra. 


CH3:  The Flower of Battle

Despite misgivings, Mathieu begins his new life as a civilian, training young nobles in the art of dueling.


CH4:  The Making of an Enemy

Mathieu begins his work as a garzon of the rapier, but soon faces complications.


CH5:  A Color of Many Shades

Mathieu tells Cassandra of Carrera.  Cass urges him to be careful, but Mathieu can't get the past out of his mind.


CH6:  To Wear a Mask

Mathieu and Eduardo head out for a night of celebration. 



Current Summary:




CH7:A Matter of Satisfaction

Mathieu recieves word of his investment and lets his emotions get the better of him...to what cost?

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Reading Excuses / Re: Email List + Submission Dates
« on: January 29, 2011, 04:23:46 PM »
I'd like to submit again.

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Reading Excuses / Re: January 24 – Hubay, Lord Domestic Ch4
« on: January 29, 2011, 04:23:08 PM »
Alright, if that's your plan, that's fine.  I think it might be the best way to go, actually.  I'll stop commenting about description then as there's no need to belabor the point so long as you're aware of it (which you obviously are).

Well, in the Roman army the non coms were called principales, but if these captains are in charge of subdivisions, it sounds to me like it'd be centurion or centurio.  I know that century means a hundred, but in reality they were about 80.  Also, just a minor note that the standard bearers were called signifiers and the senior standard bearer that bore the Roman Eagle was called aquilifer (aquila meaning eagle).  I'm sure you're probably familiar with most of that, so I'm not trying to insult your intelligence.  Captains work, it just seems that you're trying to use a lot of roman terminology so I think it would flow better with a different name. 

Hope that helps!

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I think that any answer to this question is geared towards a rash generalization.  Having said that, I think the true test is what writers do after they have a very successful book(s) and have a lot of money.  Take Stephen King for instance, that guy could have stopped ages ago, but he still turns out good books consistently...because it's in his blood, not for the money (Full Dark, No Stars is highly reccomended btw, I especially loved his afterward which would be a good answer to this question).  Other writers hit it big and suddenly dry up...to me if you're a writer, you won't ever stop.

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I didn't mind this chapter.  I also have a crazy passion for history, real or fantasy.  So, considering this had some hints about the past, take that with a grain of salt. 

Gaerus did not take the first type of job anymore; people always wanted a refund when they got the wrong answer, and with that question, there is no right answer.

I liked this sentence.  Gaerus starts to get a litte more interesting here.  It should be was no right answer, though.

I liked the chapter itself, but I agree with the others.  A lot of this telling should be shown instead.  Exposition is best used in small amounts.  The chapter itself is only 2500 words.  If you took the time to show us a lot more it would flesh the chapter out and then if you do need to infodump, it's sprinkled throughout the chapter and much more palatable.  For instance, you can have a lot of Gaerus's thoughts while he is on his way to work.  Things/People he sees should illicite internal responses.  Likewise, as others said, you can have people react to him.

There are numerous grammatical errors and a lot of passive voice.  The language is stilted/awkward at times, but you're a new writer.  I wouldn't concern myself with this too much.    You can always go back and revise or, as is more likely, move on to something else.  THere are places where the writing is better, so as long as it's not all bad, you are improving and will continue to do so.

I don't mind that we aren't continuing where the prologue left off.  I've always thought of prologues as being similar to jacket covers.  I want to know that the author can write well, and I want to be pulled in.  If that happens, I'm content to let the story develop until it's caught up with the prologue. 

Having said that, I hope Gaerus is a main character.  If the next chapter is someone different, I'm going to lose interest.  I don't like to invest myself in something to have it changed a few thousand words later and then again and again.  So hopefully we're seeing more of Gaerus.

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Reading Excuses / Re: January 24 – Hubay, Lord Domestic Ch4
« on: January 29, 2011, 01:21:53 AM »
Alright, first impressions:  I liked it.  There's some mystery there and it's starting to intrigue me.  I still feel like this bare bones though with little description and all action, dialogue, and exposition.  It makes it very hard for me to get drawn fully in, because you haven't given me a clear enough picture to work with.  Especially with all of the foreign names, characters, and creatures.  That's fine if the rest is solidly grounded.  As it is, I feel like I'm in a world only half drawn.  The beginning wasn't bad, but as soon as Jhuz leaves the tent, the description falls apart.  It's all action, but I couldn't tell you where they are, the terrain, the weather, the effect the attack is having on the encampment, etc.

Ex.  Jhuz is flying over the encampment, but we don't get a large impression of what's going on.  Is this like ants overruning crumbs of bread (barbarians and tents) or is it little pockets of resistance, or is it a single, precision strike right there.

The Medusi weren't badly done, but I think you should use a different word to describe thier arms.  It's hard to see paper being that strong.  I keep thinking of toilet paper and it doesn't mesh with throwing trees and rocks.  Now, a clear, ribbon of membrane, that I could see working.  Also, you switched once or twice to Madusi. 

I missed out on a lot of the beginning, but I thought the reveal was appropriate.  The reaction to the reveal, I didn't think was executed as well as it should have been.  Granted, it's in the middle of a fight, but there's little thought given to it.  Yes, Jhuz wretches and feels sick afterwards, but that's it.  There's no recurring thought in the back of his mind, there's no anger, there's...nothing.  Just acceptance and we move on.  I want a reaction, positive, negative, whatever. 

The problem with a writing group is that we only have one chapter in front of us.  It could be that the next chapter really digs into Jhuz's reaction, I hope it is.  If it were a novel, I'd turn the page and find out, so if that's the case, I apologize in advance.

One last small note, I don't think you should use the term screwing in the final page there.  If you have latin then use another term for it.  Also, if you have centuries, why not centurions instead of captains?  Or did I miss that part?

I really like where you're going with this.  It sounds interesting.  It is a little hard to juggle around all of the names, especially when you drop the tags and have them arguing when they are several characters together.  I feel like that description would really pull this together.  You do good with the sickly Legate.  Even the Cobra officer.  Little descriptors that reoccur over and over again help the reader identify with the characters, even if thier names are alien.  Also, I think you're letting the plot run everything.  Jhuz sounds like he has the potential to be interesting.  The other players, I don't know thier motivations and that's fine, but I want to eventually.  And I want them to have motivations, not just be there to move the plot along.


If you can delve into the psyche of the characters and just put a little more description in, I think this novel has a lot of potential thus far.

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