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Re: Superfly Weekend Edition (Just a dollar extra!
« Reply #30 on: November 07, 2005, 08:26:27 PM »
You're behind.  I switched novels and started my word count over.  Whoops.  
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Re: Superfly Weekend Edition (Just a dollar extra!
« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2005, 01:03:26 AM »
And yet, your word count is still higher than mine.  Sigh.
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Re: Superfly Weekend Edition (Just a dollar extra!
« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2005, 02:46:15 AM »
It looks like we have a superfly night crew online tonight! Go y'all!

Have fun guys. I'm off to bed so I don't fall asleep at work again.


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« Reply #33 on: November 08, 2005, 02:52:09 AM »
Oh, I see. Taunt us with your presence and then go to sleep.

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Re: Superfly Weekend Edition (Just a dollar extra!
« Reply #34 on: November 08, 2005, 02:55:22 AM »
That was me last night. Bad night, that. Which probably means I should go to bed now, but I want to write. But I can't think of where to take the story at this point.
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Re: Superfly Weekend Edition (Just a dollar extra!
« Reply #35 on: November 08, 2005, 02:55:30 AM »
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Re: Superfly Weekend Edition (Just a dollar extra!
« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2005, 02:56:55 AM »
What story are you working on, stacer? Are you doing something entirely new or more Black Bull?
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Re: Superfly Weekend Edition (Just a dollar extra!
« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2005, 03:03:40 AM »
Both. I have had some flashbacks lately of high school, certain scenes and themes of life in small-town Illinois that might make an interesting YA. I've been toying with the idea of making Maggie (Black Bull) a contemporary farm girl in contemporary farm country Illinois. This is what's making it so hard, though. Instead of urban fantasy, I'm attempting, I guess, rural fantasy. You don't see too many contemporary farm girls in fantasy today.

But the problem is making the connection between them. I don't want just an alternate-universe story. I want to fit the folklore into the framework of a contemporary story. This should be easy to draw upon Scandinavian and Scottish folklore, because that area I grew up in is all Swedish and German and Scottish. But it's still not quite there in my head.
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Re: Superfly Weekend Edition (Just a dollar extra!
« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2005, 03:09:22 AM »
That sounds really interesting! At one time I toyed around with some ideas for the story of East of the Sun, West of the Moon in a modern setting (which is a variant tale, as you know), but I never got very far. I think it could be a cool twist if you could pull it off. It might be difficult, though, if you didn't do some sort of alternate-universe. Then would it be more like magical realism--or more like Harry Potter, where the magic is in our world, but hidden?
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Re: Superfly Weekend Edition (Just a dollar extra!
« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2005, 03:13:01 AM »
What is Magical Realism?

My novel is also Modern Fantasy, and might combine elements of Magical Realism and Harry Potter-style "hidden Fantasy".
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« Reply #40 on: November 08, 2005, 03:24:50 AM »
That is one I have always been a little sketchy on. Stacer might have a better definition as she is "in" with the publishing business.

As far as I understand, magical realism is more "literary" in public opinion than fantasy. The book (not necessarily the movie) Big Fish is supposed to be magical realism--magic things just kind of happen and it is not really pointed out or explained. I think EUOL told me that 100 Years of Solitude was magical realism (I haven't read it) in a discussion one time.

Definition online for magical realism:
A chiefly literary style or genre originating in Latin America that combines fantastic or dreamlike elements with realism.

And Wikipedia has a definition too. Oh, and it lists 100 Years of Solitude as an example, so I was right about that.
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Re: Superfly Weekend Edition (Just a dollar extra!
« Reply #41 on: November 08, 2005, 03:33:49 AM »
Chimera has pretty much summed up my understanding of it. Basically, "magical realism" is the way to palatably introduce magic/fantasy to a readership that doesn't get fantasy, who insist upon their books being "real."
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Re: Superfly Weekend Edition (Just a dollar extra!
« Reply #42 on: November 08, 2005, 03:52:52 AM »
And it is usual marketed in mainstream or literary fiction rather than fantasy, correct?
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Re: Superfly Weekend Edition (Just a dollar extra!
« Reply #43 on: November 08, 2005, 04:00:45 AM »
Usually. In YA it just goes in the YA section.
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Re: Superfly Weekend Edition (Just a dollar extra!
« Reply #44 on: November 08, 2005, 06:02:15 PM »
So basically, the term "magic realism" was invented by snobs who won't read fantasy, so that they can justify the fantasy that they do read.
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