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MISTBORN Magic Question
« on: April 04, 2005, 07:07:58 PM »
This is for both those of you who've read MISTBORN and those who haven't.  

In the first book, you'll notice that I named two of the three magic systems present in the world.  The primary name, which I'm quite satisfied with, is Allomancy.  

Sazed's power is the one I'm considering changing.  It is called Hemalurgy.  Now, I like the way this sounds.  However, it doesn't quite fit in meaning with Sazed's powers.  (The Hema, which should evoke thoughts of 'blood' has rightly drawn complaints from readers.)

However, Hemalurgy DOES fit quite well with the third (mostly unmentioned magic system) used by the Steel Inquisitors.

So, I'd like to rename Sazed's magic system.  Here are my thoughts.

Ferrachemy.  I like the sound and construction of this one--it fits with the other two, and seems to relate well to Sazed's powers.  The only problem is that I think it's too easy to read as "Ferr-Alchemy," which just doesn't feel right to me.

Ferruchemy.  The word I'm drawing the 'Ferr' from anyway is Latin for iron, which is Ferrum.  So, this is truer to my source, but it just doesn't sound as good to me.

Ferrichemy.  I'm not sure if I like the way this one looks or not.  

Ferrochemy.  Perhaps where I'm leaning right now.  


Anyone else have any suggestions?  I like the traditional-science feel endings of things like 'mancy, 'lurgy, 'chemy.  I also like beginnings that relate somehow to metals, as those are used so prevalently in the magic.


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Re: MISTBORN Magic Question
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2005, 07:40:33 PM »
Aurachemy or Auronomy from Latin aurum, meaning gold
Argentonomy from Argentum for silver
Also, just Ferra or Ferramy
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Re: MISTBORN Magic Question
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2005, 08:40:21 PM »
Perhaps this is because it's been a while since I've read Mistborn, but I don't remember thinking Hemalurgy was all that out of place for Sazed. It did evoke blood imagery to me, which seemed right because of where the power was drawn from, yes? But either way, if you switch that over to the Steel Inquisitors, that seems good, too. It always just seemed a more generic name, a broader definition of the power.

Anyway, on the ferr- thing. I don't like the -chemy. I would go with a -mancy or -lurgy. Ferromancy? Perhaps not. -lurgy doesn't seem to fit, either, does it. At any rate, the only one of the -chemy endings that looks at all comfortable is the one you're leaning toward. Have you already played with similar combinations using -mancy and rejected them?

Hmm, here's something interesting. How about different forms of those endings? If you go to the dictionary and look up -mancy, for example, you get older variations such as -mantia, -manteia, from the French mantis, diviner. Ferromantia? Seems a bit affected, but perhaps if you played with different forms of those endings, you might find something you liked.
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Re: MISTBORN Magic Question
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2005, 10:31:45 PM »
ferromantia sounds like an affliction.

"I'm sorry, Mr. Smith, but it appears your cerebellum is affected by ferromantia. We'll have to operate"

Ferro- as a prefix at all reminds me too much of Ferro Boy. Probably, however, this is not a wide spread problem.

The greek for "iron" is "sidenos" (all short vowels) and for "steel" is "chalubas" (again, all short vowels) of course, greek nouns decline so there's latitude in ending those, those are just the subjective singular versions.  Chaluchemy sounds better to me, but like Stacer, I wouldn't shy from reusing "lurgy" or "mancy" as the ending again. chalurgy actually suits me.

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Re: MISTBORN Magic Question
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2005, 11:05:54 PM »
Chalurgy sounds mexican.
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Re: MISTBORN Magic Question
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2005, 02:36:15 AM »
All that Ferr buisness reminds me of ferrets, which sounds more goofy than magicky.  Just a thought.  

Come to think of it, Ferricamy sounds like people getting married to ferrets.  
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Re: MISTBORN Magic Question
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2005, 02:41:28 AM »
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Re: MISTBORN Magic Question
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2005, 09:46:25 AM »
That sounds like something to do with hearing.
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Re: MISTBORN Magic Question
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2005, 09:49:50 AM »
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Chalurgy sounds mexican.

y'know, now that you mention it, it does.

"Would you like some Chalurgy on your chalupa?"

Except that Spanish doesn't usually use that soft g sound.

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Re: MISTBORN Magic Question
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2005, 12:09:20 PM »
Ah! I don't like ferrachemy at all.  It sounds like small furry animals doing thing they shouldn't.

May I suggest: Sangrimancy.

I don't personally see the connection with blood for Sazed's power but if you say there is one, then there is one.  Sangri- is a prefix that has to do with blood in spanish.  And I think sangrimancy rolls off the tongue.  And for me at least, it doesn't have any odd associations.

If there is no association with blood but only with exterior metal as opposed to interior/ingested metals may I suggest:

Exochemy or Exomancy


Since all the magics have something to do with metal it seems like "they" might not have bothered to reference metal in the name.  "Allo" implies the alloys that allomancers use in addition to the pure metals.  "Hema" would nicely imply the blood involved in the creation of a steel priest, while "Exo" implies the unique trait that Sazed's magic has of being able to use metal on the outside of the body.
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Re: MISTBORN Magic Question
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2005, 12:39:02 PM »
I think exomancy is probably the best suggestion in this thread to date.

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Re: MISTBORN Magic Question
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2005, 03:15:47 PM »
Hrrrrm. I'll have to think about this.
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Re: MISTBORN Magic Question
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2005, 03:41:56 PM »
I like both of Skar's suggestions, and his reasoning.
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Re: MISTBORN Magic Question
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2005, 04:08:31 PM »
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Since all the magics have something to do with metal it seems like "they" might not have bothered to reference metal in the name. "Allo" implies the alloys that allomancers use in addition to the pure metals. "Hema" would nicely imply the blood involved in the creation of a steel priest, while "Exo" implies the unique trait that Sazed's magic has of being able to use metal on the outside of the body.

Excellent point.  
I like the -chemy, and do not htink you should use -mancy or -lurgy again.  Other latin roots that could describe what Terrismens' power does:
resto- (to await, be in store for the future) restochemy
recondo- (to put away , put back, store, hide) recondochemy
condo- (to put up, put away safely, store, to hide, withdraw) condochemy
cella- (a storeroom , or a garret, mean apartment) cellachemy
abdo- (to secrete, hide, to put away , withdraw, remove) abdochemy
amolior- (to remove by an effort , set aside, get rid of) amolchemy
repono- (to lay back; to put aside, lay up, deposit, store) reponchemy
sevoco- (to call aside, withdraw, separate) sevochemy
avoco- (to call away , or off, to withdraw, remove, divert) avochemy
detractio- (drawing off , withdrawal, taking away) detrachemy
mando- (to commit , entrust) mandochemy
aspiro- (figurative: to infuse spirit, etc) aspichemy
compleo- (to fill up) complechemy
cumulo- (to heap up , pile up, increase, heighten; to fill up, overload) cumuchemy
gravidus (heavy; laden , filled, full; pregnant) gravichemy
perfundo- (to steep in, fill with) perfuchemy
attineo- (to hold, keep, detain) attinechemy
capio- (to take in, hold, contain, keep in) capiochemy
distineo- (to hold asunder , keep apart, separate) distichemy
sospito- (to keep safe , preserve) sospichemy

My favorites: cellachemy, abdochemy, amolchemy

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Re: MISTBORN Magic Question
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2005, 04:28:57 PM »
exomancy is still the best. I have no issue with "chemy" except that it isn't really working with any of the prefixes suggested. It sounds consistently awkward.