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Books / Re: What is considered good book sales?
« on: February 05, 2010, 03:48:38 PM »
please move this to the books forum. I posted it in the wrong place. I can't delete my own thread.

thanks.

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Books / Re: Authors and Publishers
« on: February 05, 2010, 03:48:05 PM »
I actually didn't realize that only 10% of a books sales price is for the printing and distribution of the book. One of brandons links was to an author who blogged on that (I forgot who).

This might be part of the problem. The pereception is there is no cost to the publisher for a next ebook. People (including me) did not realize the up front cost of editing, design, cover, marketing, etc...


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Books / What is considered good book sales?
« on: February 05, 2010, 01:59:12 AM »
If you write a first book, what kind of sales would you need to get a second book contract? I know how much each book sells can vary radically. Take out JK Rowling or Stephanie Meyer, what does a well known, but not-Robert Jordan/Terry Goodkind/Terry Brooks typically sell?

Any idea about LE Modesitt, Stephen Erickson, Weis and Hickman?

What kind of marketing do publishers do for books? The only marketing I ever see are for the biggest name books. I saw some TV adds for the new Wheel of Time book. It seems like the only advertising is convincing Barnes and Noble to put it in a featured location in the store.

What kind of sales do you need for a publisher to pay for you to go on a book signing tour?

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Books / Re: Authors and Publishers
« on: February 05, 2010, 01:31:22 AM »
I don't get the gimmick of buying an e-book. They seem like an utter waste of money at this point. $400 for a pdf viewer? To be fair Barnes and Noble's reader got AWFUL reviews in the New York Times. They basically said it was garbage. They said it frequently took 3 seconds to turn a page.

That being said, in 5 years there will be e-readers for $80 and they will have more features. Or there will be iPads that are actually worth buying.  Generally it takes about 5 years for these new gadgets to work themselves out. We see which ones actually stick around and the ones that do tend to get a lot better and cheaper. The current e-books seem like an utter waste of money. People just want the latest gadget. I am a professional programmer and I don't even fall for this stuff. I am a total geek for technology too.

Layoff Sarah Palin. Hillary Clinton got $4-5 million advance. All she did was marry the right guy. Sarah Palin has a built in right wing audience built in. That being said I have no interest in her book.

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Books / Re: medical insurance for authors
« on: February 05, 2010, 01:22:51 AM »
no one can be rejected for medical insurance now. you get put in the HIPAA category like I described above. Very expensive.

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Books / Re: Authors and Publishers
« on: February 05, 2010, 01:18:43 AM »
What petition? How would it hurt Brandon.

Writers can make distribution their business by leaving a publisher is does not do a good job.

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Books / Re: spectacular fantasy failure in 1999-2000?
« on: February 04, 2010, 08:03:19 PM »
being an author is a rough business

1. you are self employed
2. no real support structure. you wither produce or sell or you don't
3. people see your name on the book so if they don't like it you get mocked.
4. you put your heart and soul into your work. you can't possibly be a fiction writer unless you love it.

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Books / Re: spectacular fantasy failure in 1999-2000?
« on: February 04, 2010, 08:01:59 PM »
so authors used to get more money up fron then they do now? Why did they get more up front? I would think that only a small % of releases are big hits, many do ok, and then a significant number bomb out or have low sales. A book can be good quality and still not sell well.

Are there just more books published now?

so this guy eidon got a 6 book deal having NEVER published before with $100,000/book up front or $600,000? I can see that kind of money or more if you are famous and writing a first book (see Sarah Palin or Hillary Clinton), but what fan base does this guy have?

I would also think that alot of selling a new author is the author's willingness and ability to market themselves on top of the publisher.

I get the impression now that first time authors generally get 1 book deals with maybe a $10k advance. This way the publisher can find out if the guy can sell books. Then once they prove themselves they more. I am sure Robert Jordan got big advances for his books after they became hits. I would bet that Stephen King probably gets upward of $1 million advance/book.

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Books / Re: Authors and Publishers
« on: February 04, 2010, 07:58:17 PM »
It is hardball business. They may have pulled the buy button to get the small business owners (writers) who work with mcmillan to pressure them to back off.

I believe amazon has done this before. If I was a writer, I would just want this over with. Especially if I was one of the guys that Brandon listed who just released books. It appears that most writers don't really make alot of money. I would be mad at both McMillan and Amazon if I spent alot of my time (maybe 2 years) working on a book, just to have the release ruined. This is people's livelihood.

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Books / medical insurance for authors
« on: February 04, 2010, 02:57:45 PM »
This is a little off topic. Thanks to the person who pointed me to John Scalzi's blog. I really like it. I noticed that an author friend of his had to have emergency heart surgery and does not have medical insurance. So are you guys out in the cold when it comes to insurance and have to buy individual plans? Is there anyway you can get a plan through your publisher? Or the SFWA negotiates a group plan?

Getting insurance on your own is a problem. Companies do not  like to insure individuals and if you have anything wrong with you at all you end up in the HIPAA category (roughly $1,000/month, covers only emergencies and has a huge deductible).

I am asking in case I want to write some day....

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Books / Re: Authors and Publishers
« on: February 04, 2010, 02:53:03 PM »
I would be unhappy with mcmillan. they are caught up in a corporate fight with amazon that is affecting them.
It is interesting that other publishers are not joining in now. Amazon can't really afford to pull the buy button on Random House on top of McMillan.

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Books / Re: spectacular fantasy failure in 1999-2000?
« on: February 04, 2010, 02:43:04 PM »
did he get a 6 book deal? It looks like he published 6 books in the series then it got cancelled. How big of an advance could he have gotten as a first time author? I heard terry goodkind got one of the biggest for a first time fantasy author due to a bidding war. However, I doubt it was more than $100,000. I can't see a publisher throwing 6 figures at first time authors. Even if a book is good it does not mean it will sell.

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Books / Re: spectacular fantasy failure in 1999-2000?
« on: February 03, 2010, 02:03:40 AM »
what was the failure in 2005?

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Books / spectacular fantasy failure in 1999-2000?
« on: February 02, 2010, 09:24:21 PM »
I am listening to Writing Excuses on how to deal with external influences. Brandon said there was some author who had a huge fantasy failure because he only read Tolkein.

Who was it and what was the book? He didn't say.

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Books / Re: Fantasy: reliable content
« on: February 02, 2010, 01:01:24 AM »
Other than George RR Martin (who I like) what fantasy authors have alot of sex and gratuitous violence? I heard Goodkind does. Who else?

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