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Movies and TV / Re: Cinema Quote Sense
« on: June 04, 2005, 02:59:22 AM »
What makes a king out of a slave? Courage! What makes the flag on the mast to wave? Courage! What makes the elephant charge his tusk in the misty mist, or the dusky dusk? What makes the muskrat guard his musk? Courage! What makes the sphinx the seventh wonder? Courage! What makes the dawn come up like thunder? Courage! What makes the Hottentot so hot? What puts the "ape" in apricot? What have they got that I ain't got? (Courage)

Cowardly Lion, Wizard of Oz

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Second Printing
« on: June 04, 2005, 12:34:25 AM »
I was just checking out the "new and used" button on Amazon for Elantris.  (By the way--how do people sell your book for only $9, EUOL?)  Anyway--saw this listing and found it amusing:

$26.42
Like New
Seller: abebooks (Safe buying guarantee)
Rating: 4.4 stars over the past twelve months (117234 ratings). Seller has 233706 lifetime ratings.
Availability: Usually ships in 1-2 business days; Ships from United States. Expedited shipping available. International shipping available.
See shipping rates

Comments: SKU: 502496910; 1st edition, Hardcover, New in dj, A first novel with an initial print run of 35,000! Wow. A first novel too! maybe they're expecting rave reviews, maybe they're going to promote the h       

Cuts off there.  Since when did Tor decide to print 35,000, EUOL?   ;)

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Movies and TV / Re: Cinema Quote Sense
« on: June 03, 2005, 09:01:21 PM »
Jason Nesmith: What? What was that?
Alexander Dane: Uh, nothing.
Jason Nesmith: I heard some squealing or something.
Gwen DeMarco: Oh, no. Everything's fine.
Teb: But the animal is inside out.
Jason Nesmith: I heard that! It turned inside out?
Teb: And it exploded.

Also from Galaxy Quest

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Second Printing
« on: June 03, 2005, 07:59:13 PM »
Exactly.  Is a NY publicist going to know how big a card Orson Scott Card is out here? (pardon the pun.)  Or what sort of stories usually run in the local papers?  If you're intimidated, EUOL, start small.  Call the Daily Herald.  Call a podunk Idaho paper.  But get some articles written, and get some practice--then use those articles as leverage when you call the larger papers.  Show them that other people have thought it's news--why shouldn't they run an article, too?  Just remember--newspaper writers and magazine editors rarely come up with stories on their own.  Take if from a guy who knows--they rely on people coming to them with stories.  You're just helping them do their job.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Second Printing
« on: June 03, 2005, 06:55:00 PM »
EUOL--I'm not sure if having your publicist call is always better than calling yourself.  After all, your publicist is in charge of a whole slew of people, not just you.  Also, you can offer to do personal interviews, etc.  I would suggest at least calling your publicist back and finding out how things went.

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Movies and TV / Re: Cinema Quote Sense
« on: June 03, 2005, 06:44:32 PM »
We're gonna drink this one to Ozzie. A good man who tried to save my ass by injecting me into yours.

Lt. Tuck Pendleton (as played by Dennis Quaid), InnerSpace

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Movies and TV / Re: Cinema Quote Sense
« on: June 03, 2005, 04:34:54 PM »
Come on.  Stop trying to hit me and hit me.

--Morpheus, The Matrix

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Movies and TV / Re: Chronicles of Narnia
« on: June 03, 2005, 03:29:25 PM »
Who knows?  They could make it a gore-fest.  Maybe show Aslan get skinned instead of just shaved.  Then throw in something about the White Witch being a Jew.  THAT would be an interesting adaptation.     :P

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Second Printing
« on: June 03, 2005, 01:20:59 PM »
Don't email--call.  Try to find out the phone number and actually talk to them.  It's much harder to ignore a person talking in your ear than a random email from a stranger.  And you can do more convincing that way, too.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Alcatraz *SPOLIERS*
« on: June 02, 2005, 08:14:58 PM »
If it makes any difference, I read the first person first--before I went and read the third person.  Of course, I knew that it had been in third person at one point in time, so maybe that taints me anyway.  Oh well.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Alcatraz *SPOLIERS*
« on: June 02, 2005, 04:50:50 PM »
So I've just finished reading over the first two chapters in both POVs.  I'd have to say the shift to first person doesn't work for me.  First of all, I personally think that one of the advantages of first person in a YA novel is that it connects to the readers--it purports to be written by a kid like them.  This advantage is lost with your approach, because you have Alcatraz writing the book as an adult recalling things that happened to him as a child.  This was done extensively in pre-YA days.  It was a genre referred to as a Boy Book.  Huck Finn broke that mold, and returning to it . . . I just don't dig it.  Not that you're writing a Boy Book, but I think there's a reason it was done away with.

Secondly, as you have it right now, it feels like a third person POV that's been changed line by line into first person.  I would say that if you really want to give it a go as first person, then a total rewrite would be necessary.  It only took you like two weeks anyway--what's another two or three?  First person is a different beast than third, and there are some things that work well in third that don't in first.  For example, I think your witty hook at the beginning works in third, but not in first.  I got too confused by all the leaps every which way from one time to another.  First person doesn't handle flashbacks and flashforwards well.

Then again, I know you've said you're not wholly comfortable with first person.  I'm not sure your agent's idea to switch it is the best approach if it's not a technique you're comfortable with.  I'll have to read the book in third to see about the Lemony Snicket parallels, and then maybe I can give you my two cents on how--and if--you really need to change them for the market.  But first I think I'll finish Elantris--I just did this to give you some more immediate feedback.  Peace, Love, Dope.  (Can anyone name that film?)

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Second Printing
« on: June 01, 2005, 10:18:11 PM »
Having worked at a PR firm and having a father who owns one, I really think he needs to focus on getting the word out more in the local market.  The Daily Universe is fine and all, but the Deseret News and the Trib would be much better.  I would also target area papers where there are high concentrations of Mormons.  Idaho, Nevada--California would be awesome.  For some reason, it's been my experience that Mormons will buy something based on the sole factor of the creator's membership in the church.  Quality often doesn't enter into it.  In EUOL's case, where he actually has a great product to boot, I really think it would increase word of mouth buzz.  The same thing happened in a way to Orson Scott Card.  I've heard numerous people around BYU who say they like him "'cause he's a member."  Or look at Steve Young.  The 49ers almost became the official church football team to root for while he was there.  You get a strong LDS following, and then people in the church start talking about it.  That extends nation wide.  It's like a ready-made marketing group.  (Sheesh--this is making me sound really cynical--that isn't what's intended.)  The bottom line is that by getting the word out to church members, I think things could really get going.  EUOL, if you happen to read this, I've called my aunt at the Deseret News--she wasn't there.  I'll call her later tonight though and see what I can find out.

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Rants and Stuff / Re: Happy Things go here
« on: June 01, 2005, 09:55:35 PM »
It's true.  Chimera likes chocolate.  Of course, I was the one who sent out the email declaring that EUOL was having a party, and that Chimera was to bring the food, Holly the drinks, EUOL the plates and silverware, and Kimball the napkins.  I was in charge of announcements and eating.  As I sent the email about two hours before the writing group, I thought it was pretty clearly a joke--but they all brought their assignments.  So now they seem to believe I should bring food next week?  Is that fair?

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Everything Else / Re: Deep Throat
« on: June 01, 2005, 12:29:22 PM »
Felt is alive, and he has confirmed the story as well.  From what I've read, Bernstein, Woodward and their executive editor all confirmed this.  I don't know how it can get any more legit.  Interesting, though.  Here's a link to the story on CNN.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/06/01/deep.throat/index.html

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Everything Else / Re: Conduit Thread
« on: May 31, 2005, 05:44:33 PM »
I went up with EUOL on Friday and attended all the panels he presented on.  He'll have to speak for himself, but I can say that he represented himself well.  On one panel, he was up there with Dave Wolverton, L.E. Modesit, and Shannon Hale talking about heroic flaws.  It was a fantastic panel.  At his reading, he had about six or seven people come.  He read the first chapter of Elantris.  I don't know about the rest of the days--I wasn't there.

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