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Books / Re: Best book you've ever read...
« on: January 28, 2007, 10:00:26 PM »
I'll second Archon's.  Mistborn was indeed one of the best books I've ever read. 


I'll add Speak by Laurie Halse Anderson, Kitty and the Midnight Hour by Carrie Vaughn, and Taming the Star Runner by S.E. Hinton.  They're very different books, but some of my VERY favorites.

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Rants and Stuff / Re: For Brandon - Religion (Potentially sensitive)
« on: January 20, 2007, 09:13:25 AM »
Thanks for your response, A.  I thought of a few more things that I didn't mention in my earlier post, things I was dancing around but didn't actually say. 

I think the danger in the nature/nurture debate comes not from the debate itself but from the political work it is used to day.  It seems many people (certainly not all) who say that homosexuality is completely inborn add the corollary, "therefore people have no choice about engaging in homosexual activity".  I am leery of any argument that says people don't have choices, because I think people have choices in almost all situations.  They may not like the options, but they are there none the less.  On the other hand, saying that homosexuality is entirely a choice or based on environmental concerns comes with the corollary "therefore, people should just not be gay", which in my opinion is not really a rational or helpful argument, much less one that is a reflection of people's actual lived experience. 

And in response to what you said about depression, it might be interesting to note that, while I have depression, medication doesn't cure it.  Years and years of reprogramming cognitive behavior has  helped a ton, but my depression is caused by much more than the  chemicals in my brain.  It is my belief that most things are this way: we become the way we are because of a delicate and complicated interplay between our genetic makeup, our experiences, and our own choices.  But how much comes from which source is impossible to determine, scientifically or otherwise, with our current code of ethics in place.  What we need to be careful of is what political work we're doing with the statements we make about the way other people naturally are, want to be, choose to be, or any combination of the three.  Perhaps we need to be even more careful to make sure we agree with the political work that's being done by the voices we're aligning ourselves with.  I certainly don't want to align myself with voices that deny personal choice, whether they be pro or anti homosexuality, as I think there are voices on each side of the line that want to say that people don't (or shouldn't) choose the way they run their lives.

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Rants and Stuff / Re: For Brandon - Religion (Potentially sensitive)
« on: January 19, 2007, 11:49:13 PM »
This is the most civil controversial thread I've ever seen on this site.  Well done, everyone. 

I've always found the nature-nurture debate a little futile in all it's forms.  I'm not just referring to homosexuality here, but all traits where this debate is popular.  I have severe depression.  Some people say it's a chemical thing (inborn).  Some people say it's a behavioral thing (learned).  I actually disagree on both counts, because I think both play a part.  I was born with a propensity for depression, but it is the experiences I have encountered that led that inborn trait to manifest. 

I wonder if it might not be the same in homosexuals, though I obviously don't have enough experience to say.  Perhaps there is something inborn that is then brought out by experiences or environments.  Then, homosexuality would not be *caused* by not having a father figure or by being abused, but it might be brought out by either of these situations, or by entirely different environmental things entirely. 

Overall, I think the focus needs to be on being respectful of other people's choices of lifestyle.  If I tell other people how they can or cannot live their lives, I run the risk of losing my own freedoms.  There are many people who would marginalize Mormons, just as there are many people who would marginalize homosexuals.  I think we need to protect people's choices to do as they wish, as long as they aren't interfering with the basic rights of other people.

Also, Armadius, thanks for bringing this up.  I hope you stick around the forums in the future.  You *are* very articulate for a sixteen year old--or for a person in general for that matter.  Welcome.


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Rants and Stuff / Re: Drastic and irreversable
« on: January 11, 2007, 04:47:10 AM »
Sorry, Archon and SE have already claimed both this fish's arms.  Maybe I can get some animatronic arms to replace them. 

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Vin's earring(possible spoilers)
« on: January 11, 2007, 04:44:12 AM »
I'm posting just so Ookla's posts make sense.  :)

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Rants and Stuff / Re: Drastic and irreversable
« on: January 09, 2007, 05:29:59 AM »
Archon--I'd proffer my arm in penance, but you ate that last week.

SE--"Ran around" and "mess around" do indeed mean pretty much the same thing.  But I stand corrected.

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Rants and Stuff / Re: Drastic and irreversable
« on: January 07, 2007, 03:22:57 AM »
I hid the body.  You can thank me later.

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Rants and Stuff / Re: Drastic and irreversable
« on: January 06, 2007, 04:55:04 AM »
Wouldn't you like to know?    ;D

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Rants and Stuff / Re: Drastic and irreversable
« on: January 06, 2007, 04:51:56 AM »
I tugged on Superman's cape. 
I spit in the wind.
I pulled the mask off the old lone ranger.
I ran around with Jim.

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Suggestions Box / Re: TWG Comic
« on: January 05, 2007, 08:52:41 AM »
Isaac, if you say yes to this project know that I will mock you mercilessly for your inability to say no.

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Books / Re: review: Buttersby
« on: December 31, 2006, 07:32:14 PM »
Whoops.  Yeah, real title might be good.  Good job, Janci

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Site News / Re: Call for Articles: Give us your love
« on: December 19, 2006, 02:39:00 AM »
Whatever.  Parker asked me to write the review.  I wrote the review.  I think it's mostly a publicity thing.  If you don't want to post it, fine, but I'm so tired and stressed right now that I don't want to know about it.  Just delete it and don't tell me.

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Site News / Re: Call for Articles: Give us your love
« on: December 19, 2006, 12:52:14 AM »
I just submitted a review of Cavern of Babel, which was written by our very own Parker.  I think he plugged it around here somewhere, but I've done a formal review for posting, whenever you have space.

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Movies and TV / Re: Eragon
« on: December 18, 2006, 07:24:01 PM »
My favorite review was the one that said it liked Eragon better when it was called Star Wars.

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Movies and TV / Re: Eragon
« on: December 18, 2006, 10:24:36 AM »
It makes me spectacularly happy to see this movie doing this badly.  http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/eragon/

The book was a waste of many many trees.  Sounds like to movie isn' t much better.

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