Sales Numbers

[stacer]

Yeah, that's my understanding, too. I'm just saying that it *can* vary widely, so take any Bookscan numbers with a grain of salt. If Tor does a frontlist sales report each month, I'd rely on those numbers before Booklist, is all.

[Peter Ahlstrom]

numbers updated.

[EDIT: Yeah. ]

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

I assume the second "6/11" is actually supposed to be 6/18

[EUOL]

Ah, now that's what we wanted to see!

Thanks, Ookla.  

[stacer]

I'm confused. Where are they updated? I only see numbers through Jan. of this year.

EDIT: Nevermnd, I found them.

[Peter Ahlstrom]

After vacation I'll stick the hardback numbers in the first post and the paperback numbers in the other post.

[Peter Ahlstrom]

Well, crap, y'all. With our transition from CDS to HarperCollins for distribution, our Bookscan access got cut off. So for the time being, I can't get the numbers for you anymore. I should be able to get them again in a couple months, but probably not until sometime AFTER Mistborn comes out!

[Shrain]

ahhh, criminitley!!  

[Lanternpost]

My question would be whether or not TOR ever provides books sales, even to author.  Every year, or more often.  Would anyone know?  That way, all would be official.

[Spriggan]

Tor keeps track more of the number shipped then sold, but they do inform authors at the time when they pay out royalties.

[demented_yam]

Tor keeps track more of the number shipped then sold, but they do inform authors at the time when they pay out royalties.

is that the number shipped and sold to the dealers, or the number shipped to the dealers and sold to the fans?

[Spriggan]

Sold to fans.

[EUOL]

Actually, no.  They track what is shipped to the distributors only.  They don't know what happens to the books after that--whether they're all going to bookstores, whether they're being bought, or whether they're sitting somewhere lost.  

So, Tor doesn't know how many books were sold to anyone.  They just know that they sent XXXcopies to Baker and Taylor, XXX copies to Ingram, XXX copies to Borders Distribution, and XXX copies to B&N distribution.

[Spriggan]

yes but when they pay you they subtract what's been returned to TOR so techincally they have a close idea what's actually been sold.  So in otherwords they keep track of what they shipped (as I said) but they pay you for what was actually sold (or not returned as I said, more or less the same thing).

[EUOL]

Ah, then yes, you are right, Sprig.

The trick is, they don't generally get returns and the like until about a year after the book comes out.  So, I STILL don't know how the ELANTRIS hardback really did.  I'll know in November.