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Hi,

As did the others, I picked on the Trek vibe almost immediately. I think it's the overall configuration of the ship (bridge, briefing room) and the words you use to describe them ("helm" for instance). At some point, I expected they would beam down to the station. The other vibe I got from the description of the Troodons is K'Chain Che'Malle from the Malazan books, which is cool.

I found some contradiction in the way the crew behaves : they seem to be very (too) proficient in using their ship and on the other hand, Darkclaw explains to them obvious things like "We are currently en route to what in this galaxy is known as an information station." Either they know all they need to know already (which has to be explained) or they don't know anything.

For someone who isn't used to verbal communication, Darkclaw seems to explain himself overmuch to his crew.

Why did Darkclaw go in the station at all? The facility has been secured and there is really no reason for him to go there. I know this is Star Trek standard, but commanding officers don't leave their ships at a whim.

How comes this alien station can accomodate Troodon technology?

I start to worry about Darkclaw as a character. Right now, he's in a position that requires very little action (which I suppose is why you had him beam down - sorry shuttle down) . He just relays orders, but in an emotionless, almost boring way. So, he and can't bring in much reader rooting - aside the fact that he's was awesome in the first chapter. I'm afraid that if things do not change quickly, you will loose reader interest for him.

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Reading Excuses / Re: March 21 – Hubay – Lord Domestic Ch 7
« on: March 22, 2011, 10:03:46 PM »
Not much to say about this chapter overall. I liked it as I did the others.

Here are my comments:
* I didn't get why Jhuz went to question the prisoner. He's coming back from a long tiring journey, he should go straight to his tent and get some rest. Instead, he goes to the prisoner because he has nothing better to do??
* Jhuz refers to the prisoner by her first name. I don't think a soldier would think about a captured enemy in that manner.
* "Jhuz knew from experience that he now had that special sort of headache that comes from getting a hangover while still awake" : unless he refers to things he really experienced with his own familiar, this is a POV error.
* Are Pentus the equivalent of Tribuni angusticlavii ?
* I don't buy that the command of a whole legion could pass to Auxiliae : there are still command officers in the legion (primus pilus for instance)
* "Definitely Chell … " : the chatter comes a little too quickly for my taste (might be just me). Seeing this should throw everyone into utter silence for at least a few minutes.

Just one more thing before I close this : up until now, this book has been very plot-driven. I'd like to have the characters drive the story a little more instead of reacting to events.


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The piece cleared some of the questions we had on the earlier parts.

My remarks here will be purely stylistic:
* you may want to loose some adverbs, especially at the beginning ("kindly voice definitely").
* you often put a coma where one isn't needed ("Which would have more than likely ended, in your death."). You can use full stops in some instances too ("And for some reason, Vara didn’t find herself surprised, she just swatted the lizard away." would seem better as "And for some reason, Vara didn’t find herself surprised. She just swatted the lizard away.")
* some sentences are oddly phrased : "but she was soon second guessing her presumptions". Why not go for something simpler, like re-assessing (ok, my choice is not that simple).

For the story, I won't go as strongly as LTU, but suspension of disbelief has its limits. Right now, I'm seriously lacking empathy for the character, or the setting, or the plot. Vara could get stoned by a mob and I wouldn't care one bit at the moment. I know it's difficult in short form.

We'll get to see in the next installment.

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Thanks for the comments.

@Manny : Your annotations were very helpful, thank you. I'd like to share one of them here, since I think it's important.

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You put this mental conversation in regular quotations. I would suggest italicizing the whole conversation and leaving the descriptions un-italicized. Like Eragon/Saphira in the Inheritance Cycle.)

This was a voluntary choice on my part for a few reasons (spoilers here):
1 - The conversation feels very real to the character. It may not been conveyed with sounds, but this is not Ciera talking to herself.
2 - This is a conversation between 2 viewpoint characters and those will have regular verbal conversations later on.

So, as I was introducing Onmk, I wanted him to feel real from the start, and I put his dialog as regular dialog. If anyone thinks this is not the right choice, I'm ready to hear your ideas on why.

@hubay : Yes, there are overarching currents in this world, but they have little impact on Ciera's story (though they were fundamental in forming her psychological mindset). You'll get to see more when I introduce another character who is heavily involved in those matters, but it is still Ciera's story, and those societal issues won't be resolved in this book (much to the dismay of some of my alpha readers who wanted more political intrigue).

@Fireflyz : Good point about this chapter not advancing the plot (though as Hubay said, you can see where I'm going). I mostly wanted to establish character here and maybe show a little more on the setting. I agree that it is a little slow-going and that maybe I'll have to re-think about having this chapter here at all. Thank you.

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The "Dark Lord" thing became old at about "The High Lord had the same body shape ..." : we're getting out of a long (very long) paragraph with lots of High Lord this and that, and this new paragraph promises just the same level of High Lord worship.

For the part about the link not being re-established, I got the message, no need to put more emphasis. SF/F readers are usually pretty smart, no need to underline everything, it just infuriates them.

I forgot to mention a POV violation earlier : "Felivas gave the king an apologetic look. " Since Nayasar is almost out of the room, she can maybe hear Felivas (and I'd argue against that also), but she certainly can't see his facial expressions.

Parts about info dumping:

"You have already received some criticism..." : the entire paragraph is a big info dump. It's handled well enough so that it doesn't feel quite like one, but it just states obvious facts for the 2 characters.

"You know how waiting infuriates me. " : yes, he knows! It is just you telling me that the character isn't patient. I think showing her walking in circles is much better without the dialog bit that comes with it.

"I never really wanted to bring this up, ..." : it felt clear that she was bringing it up for the reader.

"Morale among the people, ..." : At this point, since the king hasn't shown any indication of his response, there is no need to push the point. This is just explaining me the situation.

"we are in a precarious situation, as you well know..." : The entire paragraph feels too info-dumpy, and you clearly state that the character knows it. I admit that you have to give us some information, and since the king's viewpoint is entirely different from his daughter's, you have to have him say something, but here, it was too much. Besides, rulers don't have to explain themselves, even to their family.


In almost every instance, I think I would have bought the info-dump if it had been presented as the character's narrative, but in dialog, characters don't tell each other what they already know.

Don't get me wrong, it's not as bad as I make it sound : a few tweaks is all it really takes here.

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Hi,

Thank you so much for reading and critiquing this chapter.
If you missed on the prologue, I can re-send it to you if you want.

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I enjoyed the character, although,

It's nice to know, since she's not typically the type who attracts sympathy.
The last rewrite was almost entirely geared towards showing her as a very capable person the reader can relate to.

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Due to the lack of description, I found my self lost in what was going on, particularly toward the beginning.

I'll definitely have to try to add more description, even if I don't enjoy them that much as a reader :-)
The setting is not really steampunk : this is straight fantasy in a world where industrialization begins (sort of like Mistborn).

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why there are no men except for in your main character's head.

In fact, there are men around, though you do not see them in this scene (there were men on the prologue).
I'm thinking of putting groups of workers for the bus to pass around and show that men are there, but that none would
ever step into a bus.

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I did find a LOT of redundancies and if you want I can email you an version with notes on these redundancies.

I suppose you're talking about word redundancies here rather than me saying the same thing twice?
I guess you're right.
If it's no bother, I'd like to have your annotated version : this should help me A LOT

Once again, thank you for critiquing, the remarks were quite useful.

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Writing Group / Re: Plotting Chapter by Chapter
« on: March 17, 2011, 11:30:38 PM »
I suppose that depends on what type of writer you are.
Me, I can't plot a thing in advance (believe me, I tried). I know the general ending and where I start, but what goes in between, I have no idea.

To me, knowing my characters is key. I need to know them inside and out, and I'm not talking about their favorite color, but about why are they scared people, or arrogant, and such. I also try to give them psychological motivations that I can use later to induce changes.

After that, the characters become the engine of the story. I put them in the initial context, and they do all the work, and react to one another. Characters will often surprise me by dropping bombshells out of the conversation, and I'll have to take those into account as I write. The most difficult part is nudging them to go back towards the ending I had planned. So far, it mostly worked (i.e. I didn't have an ending that was that different from my first vision).

If you do it like that, the scenes do flow easily from one to another, so if keeping scenes consistent is your problem, this could help you.

I also found Dan's video to be a huge help, though I do use it for rewriting, not for the first draft.

So, maybe you can try my "write by the seat of your pants" technique : it's fun to see the characters build the story, though it can be stressful at times not knowing what comes next (try discovery-writing a whodunit !).

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I liked the piece a lot, it feels different from what I usually read.

Leading with a "monster-type" character is an interesting choice (certainly a bold one) : we'll have to see down the road where that leads us, but for now, it felt quite different.
I don't know if it was a deliberate choice or not, but I only picked up the SF part near the end of chapter 1. For a good part of the chapter, I went between "fantasy-style" and "unknown-style". I was happy about that, but I worry that regular readers would rather know right away which side they're on.
The writing of the first chapter was nice, but I found the words "High Lord" and "Darkclaw" too present. At first, I didn't see it, but the sheer number of those bothered me at some point, and every time I read one of these, I cringed.

The part about the "High Lord" weakening felt a tad too obvious for me : the character noticing something and explicitly dismissing it did raise a red flag for me. Maybe you could just skip the part about dismissing the observation. I think that often, readers register what we write and there is really no need to say much for them to understand. They might not know it at the time, but down the line, they'll remember.

The naming of "Darkclaw" did bother me at first, because it was obviously a new name taken from his new body. If he didn't know how his body was shaped, how did he call himself Darkclaw? In the end, I understood that the High Lord did name him, though Darkclaw didn't understand why at the time, so my interrogations are answered, but I wish I had been given the explanation earlier, it would have saved me much grumbling.

I found chapter 2 interesting, even if it was more conventional, and yes, I think you needed to cut off from Darkclaw a little, to show us people we're more supposed to attach ourselves with.
The relationship between the two is well portrayed, so I wasn't bothered to find they were in a relationship at the end of the chapter.

I cringed when I saw the mirror come in : I told myself "that's it, the obligatory mirror description comes in". I was kind of relieved when you didn't use it fully. I see here the writer wanting to describe his character, but stopping in the middle because the device used is so bad he can't go on writing it anymore.
If you really want to describe the species, have her describe Felivas early, and only throw in hints about her own features (a strand of hair here and there).
I would also be mindful of "dialog info-dump", because at times, I felt like things were being said only for the reader's benefit.

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The story moves fast enough for this sort of format where you need to have something happening at every page (Panel, panel, panel, punchline as some would say).

The only bit that worried me was the villagers : they are waiting for her at the drop point, she lands in a cloud of dirt, runs, and nobody follows her??? Maybe that's the magic system :-)

As for names, I'm really not the person for this, as I often pick up the first name that comes to mind (I've also been known to use online babies names databases and letting them choose at random).

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Hi,

Aside from the two first paragraphs, the piece was nice to read. As I finished it, I somewhat understood why the second paragraph was here, but this explanation didn't satisfy me.

I think you need to start right away with the character, so I would loose the first paragraph without regret. The second one that you want to keep as a resonance with the one in the end, I would put as an epigram. This way, you still start the real text with the character, you emphasize the part about superior opponents, and you still provide resonance.

I liked the bit about "force fields" :-)

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Hi,

I had some trouble with the epigram : there are many elements here that I suppose are explained in the earlier chapters, but the sensitives/parts and such did confuse me (especially in the sentence "Realizing the futility, they ceased their attacks and laid limp inside.", which I suppose refers to the sensitives/parts).

The scene with the parents started well, but when it came to the couch part, I felt a rupture in the story : you have this big descriptive paragraph sandwiched between two parts of the same dialog. BTW, having glasses made of gold doesn't seem like a good idea, since gold is a very malleable metal.

The scene at the stables was kind of fun to read, but at some level, I began to wonder what did it bring to the story. Considering that this is supposed to be chapter 11, scenes shouldn't be about character exposition anymore and bring something to the story.

The last part with Chalinae did raise some questions for me : I don't know her that well, but sending her "man" to a life-threatening errand just to have him do something manly didn't feel in character to me. She implies she wants her man to be smart, and mostly wants to reassure the world that her choice of man is right. Sending him do something stupid for a feather doesn't seem right to me.

All in all, I liked the chapter. I got from the voice that Jin is the scientific type : that was well introduced.

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Hi,

This is the first chapter from my first novel, The Fifth Compendium.

Last time on "The Fifth Compendium" : Destra, Mother of the fifth heart throws herself into the river to prevent men chasing her from taking away the book she's carrying.

Chapter 1 : Ciera, a librarian wants to get to work, but events conspire against her.

All comments will be appreciated.


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Reading Excuses / Re: Email List + Submission Dates
« on: March 13, 2011, 05:24:46 PM »
If you think there's more space, I'd also like to submit my next chapter this week (about 3200 words).
Otherwise, count me in for next week.

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Reading Excuses / Re: 3/7 - jpayne1138 - the witch's child
« on: March 12, 2011, 02:29:26 PM »
Hi,

Damn, this was frustrating not getting an ending when I was really liking the story.

The idea of the baby killing Bertram might be nice on paper, but let's face it, Bertram is only a mean boy. I know that you've built him up so that we don't like him, but killing him off seems a bit extreme (unless he's a teenage-Voldemort :-) )

My idea here would be something like "the baby goblin chooses his witch". You've stated that goblins are witches babies. I'll take that in a slightly broader sense and say that witches do raise goblins. A newborn goblin is born alone in the wood, until a soon-to-become-witch comes along and picks him up. After that, she raises the goblin and becomes a full fledged witch.

Anyway, nice work on the beginning.

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Reading Excuses / Re: March 7 – Hubay – Lord Domestic Ch 0
« on: March 09, 2011, 10:19:18 PM »
Difficult decision :
1 - I suppose that the fact that a Chell himself brought Jhuz is important (just a wild guess on my part). In that respect, you may want still to have a Chell bring him in to emphasize the point.
2 - On the other hand, you can't have him here and not having the narrator mention how he feels about them and their powers (would be a big POV violation). So having the chell in the scene cannot be done without revealing too much.

I suppose a solution between those two would be to have the Chell bring the boy in and leave at once. It would explain why the narrator doesn't think about what the Chell are, but you would loose Grishka as a person you can use in dialog to introduce your setting. Maybe you can get away with having the narrator explain things to Jhuz, but it's a risky path. Or maybe have a servant of the Chell here as well to use in the exposition dialog.

Aside from the exposition, what was the objective of this prologue? Maybe we can re-center on the objectives here.

Now, for my other comments, I don't have much more to say. Loved the "He was a surprisingly average height and build, and his face was remarkably plain." which did a very good job describing the Chell.

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