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Title: WoA question: kandra hunting (spoilers?)
Post by: walkwist on March 12, 2008, 05:52:09 AM
Could Vin have burned malatium in an attempt to discover the kandra that supposedly infiltrated Elend's inner circle?

As I recall from MB1, malatium causes visions of past versions of everyone in view.  What would show for a kandra?  If I had to guess, it would either be some past body used by the kandra or nothing at all.  Both might give the kandra away.

As it turns out it wouldn't have helped detect TenSoon anyway.  But throughout the book I was hoping she'd give it a try.
Title: Re: WoA question: kandra hunting (spoilers?)
Post by: Shost on March 12, 2008, 06:31:42 AM
wow thats a good question. who knows what vin would have seen. maybe she wouldn't have seen anything in the same way that a kandra can't be affected by emotional allomancy (at least without duralumin). or maybe it would show a mistwraith or a different body or maybe it would show a kandra with no body (i wonder what that would look like). i really have no idea. :D
Title: Re: WoA question: kandra hunting (spoilers?)
Post by: VegasDev on March 12, 2008, 06:47:40 PM
I had asked Brandon this question some time ago and here was his response, read into it what you will:

I suspect that she would see the kandra wearing its true body-this will be explained in book 3 (wink wink).

Title: Re: WoA question: kandra hunting (spoilers?)
Post by: Chaos on March 12, 2008, 06:50:51 PM
That's an incredibly good question, no doubt about that. There are so many things that malatium could reveal (considering people and especially kandra are always changing).

Would using duralumin plus malatium reveal an image that was more in the past (sort of how flaring atium sees a bit further in the future)? But, Vin used malatium and saw an image of the Lord Ruler that was a thousand years ago.

So, if anything, I would think it would show a kandra in its original form, whatever that may look like.
Title: Re: WoA question: kandra hunting (spoilers?)
Post by: Shost on March 12, 2008, 07:09:33 PM
i'm sure its true form also has something to do with killing it. i mean TenSoon said he killed OreSeur and nothing we've seen so far indicates how they can be killed. i'm curious as to what their true body looks like and its weaknesses.
Title: Re: WoA question: kandra hunting (spoilers?)
Post by: Comatose on March 12, 2008, 11:35:46 PM
My guess is that only Kandra can kill Kandra, and that is why the Mistborn could kill them.  They are thier own only weakness.  Mistborn can control Kandra, and make them kill eachother.
Title: Re: WoA question: kandra hunting (spoilers?)
Post by: darxbane on March 13, 2008, 03:58:01 PM
That's a good theory.  Of course it could also mean that they could learn of a Kandra's existence by exerting that control.  The Mistborn could then make the Kandra kill itself, or stand there and allow itself to be killed.  Maybe they can only be killed in their true form?
Title: Re: WoA question: kandra hunting (spoilers?)
Post by: Shost on March 13, 2008, 06:32:14 PM
Maybe they can only be killed in their true form?

thats what i'm thinking. and maybe one kandra 'eats' another like they do with bodies.
Title: Re: WoA question: kandra hunting (spoilers?)
Post by: darxbane on March 13, 2008, 09:15:20 PM
Interesting.  Maybe they all look like Vern Troyer in their true form.  That would make me want to change bodies, anyway ;)
Title: Re: WoA question: kandra hunting (spoilers?)
Post by: Shost on March 14, 2008, 12:01:08 AM
lol good one.
Title: Re: WoA question: kandra hunting (spoilers?)
Post by: Kelsier on March 15, 2008, 03:33:03 AM
I think the Kandra are going to be very prominent in Book Three. Brandon seems to be building them up as the story progresses. I would love it if we got to go into a Kandra's POV at some point, perhaps get a glimpse into their society. But I doubt that will happen. Either way, I have a feeling they're connected directly to the novel's plot in some way. I hope so, anyway.
Title: Re: WoA question: kandra hunting (spoilers?)
Post by: Comatose on March 16, 2008, 01:36:03 AM
I actually wouldn't be surprised if TenSoon had a viewpoint on his journey home.
Title: Re: WoA question: kandra hunting (spoilers?)
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on March 17, 2008, 12:50:43 AM
RAFO. :)
Title: Re: WoA question: kandra hunting (spoilers?)
Post by: Chaos on March 17, 2008, 03:21:14 AM
Well, you know me. In my Ruin and Preservation topic, I explained that Kelsier got the Eleventh metal from the kandra. I will be utterly convinced of that fact until Brandon proves me wrong.

But I don't think I will :D.
Title: Re: WoA question: kandra hunting (spoilers?)
Post by: Comatose on March 17, 2008, 11:44:22 PM
It makes sense to me as well.
Title: Re: WoA question: kandra hunting (spoilers?)
Post by: darxbane on March 18, 2008, 04:31:06 PM
He may not have actually received Malatium from Oreseur, but I don't doubt that is where he learned of it.  I would like to know what you combine Atium with to make Malatium.  I imagine that wouldn't give any of the story away.  All we know is what it does, what it's called and that it contains Atium. 
Title: Re: WoA question: kandra hunting (spoilers?)
Post by: Comatose on March 20, 2008, 02:25:59 AM
I can't wait to see electrum used, and some more about gold, those are two metals taht haven't got much time that I think will play a more important part in future books.  After all, electrum shows you you're own future, how great would that be??  You could even use it like Atium because you could see if the next move you make leaves you dead or not.  It wouldn't be as effective, but still.  You could also use it to counter atium: see what you're going to do before you do it, and then know what you're enemy thinks you are going to do, and do something else, like what Vin did, only this would be easier.
Title: Re: WoA question: kandra hunting (spoilers?)
Post by: darxbane on March 20, 2008, 02:56:48 PM
Yeah.  It's too bad EUOL will not touch upon them in book 3.  We are going to have to wait.  That is an interesting theory about Electrum.
Title: Re: WoA question: kandra hunting (spoilers?)
Post by: Comatose on March 20, 2008, 09:14:13 PM
He's not going to?  Awww, I was hoping he would.  Oh well, he has enough answers that he needs to cram into that book, and gold and electrum don't play much of a part anyway.  Still, it's disappointing.
Title: Re: WoA question: kandra hunting (spoilers?)
Post by: darxbane on March 21, 2008, 07:40:32 PM
Yeah.  One of his annotations (I believe in book 1 when Vin first learns about gold).  He says that he has been deliberately vague on gold and electrum, and he is saving them for future stories.
Title: Re: WoA question: kandra hunting (spoilers?)
Post by: Comatose on March 22, 2008, 01:51:22 AM
I thought that meant for future books, oh well, I guess that's that.