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Title: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Fellfrosch on October 05, 2005, 12:08:18 PM
I hereby declare this to be our Nano thread. Who's doing it this year? What are you writing about? I'm in, but I'm not yet sure what my novel is going to be.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: 42 on October 05, 2005, 01:27:50 PM
I'm thinking I should try this again.

I think I need to get a really good outline together first. I work well with outlines. I figure I need at least 20 chapters. So in theory I could write a chapter a day averaging 2500 words a day. I would still have 10 days to make-up days were I didn't make the 2500 word count or just missed the day entirely.

Last year I did farely well at writing around 2000 words a day until I just got stuck.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Spriggan on October 05, 2005, 01:34:30 PM
While I don't want to write a book, that would be a scary outcome, I have been debating joining the Nanowrimo spirit by doing a flash project in a month (ie a game or something).
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Jade Knight on October 05, 2005, 03:52:06 PM
I'm considering joining this year.  I'm toying around with a Modern Fantasy novel (importing stuff from my Fantasy world into something more modern, and seeing if I can give it a slight industrial kick).

I will definitely need to do some more prewriting if I want to make the month, though.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Archon on October 05, 2005, 09:28:28 PM
I want to do this this year. I haven't decided whether I am going to cheat and work on a story that I really want to finish, or do another idea that I have had. Assuming I don't cheat, mine would be a modern day science fiction story.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Fellfrosch on October 06, 2005, 12:18:22 PM
As long as you write 50,000 words during November, we won't tell anyone that it was part of a pre-existing manuscript.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: GorgonlaVacaTremendo on October 06, 2005, 03:53:28 PM
So we need to write 50,000 words before the end of Novermber to do this?  I'm in, although I don't think I am a very good author.  I am also most likely to not finish, but, hey, what do I have to loose?  Somebody explain all the legistics to me?
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Nessa on October 06, 2005, 03:56:32 PM
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 Somebody explain all the legistics to me?


http://www.nanowrimo.org/

They explain all the rules, and if you register you can keep track of word count on the site and compare how others are doing. I did it once. I am never doing it again. But don't let that discourage you.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Fellfrosch on October 07, 2005, 12:38:15 PM
I have done it twice, failed once due to extenuating circumstances. I encourage everyone to participate, as it's a really great experience.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on October 07, 2005, 04:13:42 PM
I am a winner of the past two years. Unfortunately, I won't be this year, unless something drastic happens.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Fellfrosch on October 07, 2005, 06:54:42 PM
Then I have a chance to catch up! Ha ha!

Oh wait, I mean, "You can do it!"
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on October 07, 2005, 08:22:10 PM
you can catch up .... riiiiiiight. First of all you'd have to finish one! On a year I'm not doing it!

I guess you could do that this year. But since you didn't even TRY last year and I did it in 2/3 the time....

er.. I mean... "You can too!"

support. That's what we're all about here.

My big thing actually, is that I haven't thought at all about my next project. I have to finish at least one re-write of last years and finish the first draft from the year previous before I start a new one. Maybe I'll plan on the re-write of last year's for NaNo 2005. I don't know if i really want to start from scratch, though, or just make major modifications and additions to the previous version.

How do y'all handle re-writes?
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Jade Knight on October 08, 2005, 03:19:28 AM
Seeing as I've yet to finish a novel, I can't speak on that large of a scale . . .

But I hate rewriting.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Archon on October 08, 2005, 11:55:21 PM
I haven't finished a novel either, but I don't foresee rewrites being a problem. I have so much material written that I am not going to use, that if I wanted to change my plot all I would have to do is substitute one for the other, and make minor adjustments.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Parker on October 11, 2005, 08:39:12 PM
This looks cool.  I think I'll do it, too.  I've got a YA fantasy that's been kicking around in my head for a while.  The only thing I'll have trouble with is editing my third and fourth books while I'm writing a seventh.  Anyone tried that before?  Editing one while writing another?  Maybe I'll talk to EUOL about it . . . he might know.  Thanks for the heads up on this, though.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: stacer on October 11, 2005, 09:24:33 PM
Dun dun dun dun! I have decided that I will join in on the fun this year, seeing as how I don't have the excuse of grad school breathing down my neck anymore.

Plus, I've been wanting to actually write a book in my spare time, seeing as how my social life isn't interfering either (i.e., I should take advantage of the spare time while I have it). I have all of two scenes of a YA that isn't Black Bull. Haven't decided if it's going to be fantasy or not--I'm going to try to make it fantasy, but it might end up being a realistic problem novel, that might be too autobiographical to publish. But I'm going to try to make it a contemporary retelling of a fairy tale, set in rural western Illinois.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Fellfrosch on October 12, 2005, 02:44:20 PM
Sounds groovy. I've got at least one of the other writers at work in on it as well, so this should be a fun year.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on October 14, 2005, 11:49:50 AM
So I want to try this again. But I've no idea what to do. Where's a good place to get ideas?
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: badlydrawnjeff on October 19, 2005, 04:57:20 PM
I'm doing it, 4th time in 5 years.  Never completed either, which means I'm a total sucker.

I found that the Nano boards are a good place, and if you're into LiveJournal culture, the community there is very helpful, too.

I find the best way to get motivation, assuming you have the time to do it, is to get help from people in the same way, preferably from places you have established links to already.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: neiana on October 20, 2005, 03:42:36 PM
I'm doing NaNo as well, I'm all excited like.

I've been doing some pre-NaNo work on another story, to try to get a decent amount of writing in per day.  So far I've failed each day to make the necessary average for NaNo, but I haven't actually tried to make it either..

Hopefully I'll be a winner. ^_^

- N
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on October 24, 2005, 12:20:14 AM
I've already signed up for it on the site. Since last year I decided I could not because I was working an insane job, and I am currently unemployed (well, technically) still I think I need to this year.
I'm going to <sigh> try to write a romance novel. I have an outline written, but haven't really started any writing, so I can go at it fresh on Nov. 1st and not cheat.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on October 24, 2005, 12:03:30 PM
Is anyone participating willing to do a blog 2-3 (or more) times a week during November? I have some ideas for a format, but since I'm not in, I can't do it. I think it'd be a nice TWG feature, and something you could put in your sig over at nano.org and get people to visit us :D
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on October 24, 2005, 01:52:05 PM
Blog as in update what you wrote for that day  or as in, "Today I was stuck on about word 500 for two hours and I nearly killed off half my characters in frustration." ?


I just ask b/c I'm on Livejournal and I"ll probably be blogging anyway so it will likely be no additional effort to do something like this.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Fellfrosch on October 24, 2005, 02:07:09 PM
I was thinking of doing a blog, because nothing says "I'm a crazy writing loon" like writing 2500 words a day and then writing more about how much you're writing.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on October 24, 2005, 02:33:45 PM
blogging as in something autobiographical. I'd have a little screenshot of the excel sheet to keep track of the progress, so readers know where we are. I wouldn't dream of asking anyone to post their frough draft nano as they wrote it.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Fellfrosch on October 24, 2005, 05:14:19 PM
naturally
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: MsFish on October 24, 2005, 09:44:44 PM
I'm in.  I failed last year due to a massive depressive episode, but I've already had one of those this fall, so hopefully I'll be in the clear. ;D  It's worth a try at least.  

I am, however, going to cheat.  I'm going to work on a book I've already started.  I'm just not up for a new project right now.  Gotta get my current book written.  
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on October 28, 2005, 12:05:20 PM
La la la, we didn't hear it, la la la we have dice!
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: MsFish on October 31, 2005, 02:39:05 PM
What's going on everyone?  It starts tomorrow!  Are we doing a progress-tracking thing this year?
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on October 31, 2005, 02:45:10 PM
Yeah, well, sometime yesterday I had a brilliant idea. SO I may try to do this thingy.

I will be tracking using the handy dandy excel sheet I have though. I'm not going to do a calendar like I Have in years past.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on October 31, 2005, 02:48:53 PM
Did you make the spreadsheet or download it somewhere - can I have a copy?
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: MsFish on October 31, 2005, 02:58:12 PM
So does that mean we're not doing group tracking?  Sad.


Or wait, IS the excell thing group tracking?
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on October 31, 2005, 03:19:44 PM
it's per individual. I'll upload a blank one so you can see what it's like
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on October 31, 2005, 03:28:31 PM
http://writer.herbertlives.com/uploads/nanowrimo-report-card.xls

You just need to type in your word count and how many hours you wrote that day. The report card gives you lots of useful numbers and stats to distract you from acutally working.

So, there will *not* be a maintained group count on TWG. At least, I won't be doing it. HOwever, please feel free to post your word count in your signature or just to post in this thread or "happy things" or even "Grumpy things" how much (or how little) you've managed to write. We want to see how you're doing, certainly.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on October 31, 2005, 03:44:08 PM
Well since it's my last day before I start, I'm doing lots of research today.
*nods*

Excellent excuse to finish all the books I've been reading.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on October 31, 2005, 04:12:57 PM
which means I should probably come up with a loose outline tonight, right?
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: MsFish on October 31, 2005, 06:30:27 PM
Outlines are overrated.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Archon on October 31, 2005, 07:37:07 PM
Pshaw, outlines. Who needs them? Pshaw, organization, who needs it?
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on October 31, 2005, 08:45:46 PM
HOLY CraP! It's the last day in october, the day before Nanowrimo kicks off! I'll be garbellfarblasterwrastered! AWhhhh!
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Spriggan on November 01, 2005, 01:30:31 AM
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HOLY CraP! It's the last day in october, the day before Nanowrimo kicks off! I'll be garbellfarblasterwrastered! AWhhhh!


Ya.  What he said.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on November 01, 2005, 09:27:34 AM
if I don't at least know where I'm starting and where I'm trying to get I'll just be lost and not get my word count
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: stacer on November 01, 2005, 03:00:56 PM
Yeah. So. Today's November 1st? Guess that means I should start writing. I have no outline, but I'll just write. Any writing is more than I've done lately.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: MsFish on November 01, 2005, 06:31:57 PM
I don't wanna.  
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Fellfrosch on November 01, 2005, 06:48:56 PM
Yes you do!
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on November 01, 2005, 09:40:28 PM
I wrote the first chapter of my novel in a notebook and have LOST the notebook!  ARGH.  Didn't get it into electronic format. If a dog has eaten it I will be very veyr angry.  Don't even have a wordcount.  Stupid freaking notebook.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: stacer on November 02, 2005, 12:53:31 AM
1,115 words so far, and I'm only halfway through the scene. I don't know where the Pentacostal church came from, but I'm just going with it.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: stacer on November 02, 2005, 02:11:46 AM
Wow, I'm a slow writer. 1903 words was close enough to 2000 when I was falling asleep and my cat was waking up enough to attack my typing fingers. But that took me from the time I started writing at 7pm till now, 10pm. But I've got some ideas flowing that I didn't expect, so I think it'll be okay for at least this week.

Fell, you said you wanted content? I'm going to post a daily wordcount on my LJ: http://www.livejournal.com/users/norroway/53489.html?mode=reply. There's little material to work with, but if you wanted to duplicate it over here (the NaNo-applicable part), you're welcome.

Oh, and e, that spreadsheet you posted a link to doesn't seem to be calculating my words per hour even though I added my hours. Does your copy work? If so, can you email it to me and I'll just replace it with my own?
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Spriggan on November 02, 2005, 06:55:16 AM
Wow I'm finding that this is taking longer then expected to do even a simple game from start to finish, but I am adding a lot of extras to it.  It's only been one week since I started so I shouldn't be complaining about that even though 90% of all the code is done the extra "Jordan-izeing" of the game will probably take another week or so.  I may have to cheat and count this one as my NaNo game, especially if I get that free lance flash job.

Since NaNo is all about numbers here are mine:

716 lines of code not including the level editor (about another 500 more) or all the XML that the levels are stored in (about 300 per XML file).
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Archon on November 02, 2005, 07:33:42 AM
Only 981 words so far, and I have to go to school now. Curses!
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock on November 02, 2005, 11:23:06 AM
Well, I don't think I'll be participating this year. I've much too much to do and dwell on. Quite a harrowing semester this has been. Soon enough, soon enough.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: MsFish on November 02, 2005, 08:16:32 PM
Yeah, I wrote 350 words yesterday.  But I'm taking Tuesdays as my day off, since they are the days when I don't have 30 seconds at home to myself, so really, that's extra.  Only 2000 to go for today...

Way to be optimistic, Fish.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Jade Knight on November 03, 2005, 03:49:12 PM
E, the blank spreadsheet is also full of morale notes, including some profanity.  FYI.

Excellent tool, though.

I'm starting late - going to begin prewriting now, and try to get in some words to day.  I get to play catch-up.

Did you make this spreadsheet?
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on November 03, 2005, 04:17:52 PM
yeah, I cuss sometimes sorry. I'll erase the morale notes for everyone who hasn't seen it yet.

I didn't make it no, I think there's an author's note on there somewhere. I really like it as a tool.


Edit: I removed my morale notes and my swearing. Again, I'm sorry about that.
I also noticed that some of the cells had the formulas erased and replaced by data. I fixed those too.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Jade Knight on November 03, 2005, 07:03:17 PM
I also notice it's set for 2004.

Is there any easy way to shift all of the 2004 dates to 2005 in Excel?  I'm still somewhat new to Excel, wot.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on November 03, 2005, 07:36:32 PM
uhm...

I'm dead certain I can fix that. But I'm not going to bother loading Excel on this computer. I want to go to bed BEFORE the Second Coming.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: stacer on November 03, 2005, 10:32:03 PM
I stayed late at work because I was going to try to write, but I just can't. Nothing's coming to me, and I don't have my file to go from. And I'm hungry. And I have the 3rd disk of Firefly waiting for me in the mail at home. Okay, that was going to be something I held off on till I was done writing the goal for the night anyway, but ... I just really need to go home. Perhaps I can accomplish a lot of organization and cleaning tonight--I can't stop thinking about the laundry on the dining room table. And my poor lonely kitten.

Hopefully I'll be able to replace my power cord tomorrow, though. That'd be good.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Jade Knight on November 03, 2005, 11:12:32 PM
I've managed to get in a whopping 373 words today.

But hey, it's a start.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Fellfrosch on November 03, 2005, 11:28:52 PM
I'm halfway done with today's goal, and now it's time for the second half. Huzzah!
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: MsFish on November 04, 2005, 12:56:39 PM
Yeah, I'm a day behind.  But it's okay, because I've got the next four days off work and I'm going to WRITE rather than goofing off.  So there.  

:)
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Fellfrosch on November 04, 2005, 01:45:47 PM
We'll hold you to that.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: stacer on November 04, 2005, 02:01:53 PM
I'm going to get my cord replaced today, I hope. I don't want to spend $80, but I don't want to wait four or five more days for it to get here. I'll go out at lunch and see what I can find.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Jade Knight on November 04, 2005, 02:26:46 PM
Good luck.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on November 04, 2005, 04:13:16 PM
I have updated the report card for the last time I'll do it this year. I just updated all the dates manually. But they all say 2005 now.
Get it again if you want it, or don't
I'll change 'em to 2006 next October.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: stacer on November 06, 2005, 12:37:24 AM
3143! Yay! At least I'm back in motion. I have to run out to a birthday party, but I'm hoping I'll have time when I get back home to do a little more after that. I'm nowhere near catching up, but at least I'm writing.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Jade Knight on November 06, 2005, 02:46:29 AM
1829.  I'm slowly picking up speed.  More than half of that was written today.  Tomorrow I want to double it again.  I'm also prewriting and not counting my prewriting towards the wordcount.

We'll see how I do, wot.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Spriggan on November 07, 2005, 03:03:44 AM
Well finally got to about 98% done code wise, unless I decide to add in some new feature like I kinda did over the weekend.  Though graphics are the time consuming factor so I've got a lot left to do.  Also I've got a free-lance job now so I've got very little time to work on this over the next two weeks.

Oh, and I added another 677 lines of code.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: MsFish on November 08, 2005, 08:38:11 PM
Over 4,000 now.  

I'm actually at word count if you count the complete outline I did yesterday and the work I did on the first novel, which sadly I can't.  
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Jade Knight on November 09, 2005, 02:34:01 AM
Must . . . make . . . goal. . . for . . . day.

154 words to go.

[a few hours of helping Ari with her homework and other procrastinations pass]

2064 ruddy words written today.  I'd congratulate myself if I weren't so terribly far behind still.  This is the first day I've managed to break 2000.

Wordperfect gives my count as 4,954.  I have a long ways to go.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: MsFish on November 09, 2005, 06:47:37 PM
Hey, but you're beating me!  Go you!
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Jade Knight on November 10, 2005, 09:35:11 PM
What do you do when you hate the book you're writing?
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Archon on November 11, 2005, 12:00:06 AM
Rewrite it so that you don't hate it.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Jade Knight on November 11, 2005, 04:14:31 AM
I tried a different tack - prewriting à la FreeMind.

I've totally got some new ammo for my story and I'm into it again.

My problem was that I was writing boring stuff, and I didn't know how to avoid it.  I've discovered that giving the protagonist someone to hate is a wonderful way to make a story interesting again.

Besides, I'm doing so poorly with NaNoWriMo as it is that I don't dare go and rewrite my novel from scratch.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: MsFish on November 11, 2005, 12:59:15 PM
Yeah, the question is, do you hate it because you're not writing the book you want to write, or do you hate it just because you're in the middle of it and it's hard?  I usually fall into the latter category.  Right now I hate the second book I'm writing--mostly because my writer's group has become the voice of my internal editor.  I can hear the criticism already, and the book isn't even written yet.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Fellfrosch on November 11, 2005, 01:54:26 PM
Internal editors are the bane of Nanowrimo (well, writing in general, but speed-writing in particular).

I often find myself writing boring stuff and not knowing how to get out of it. Part of that is my subconscious insistence on writing every second of every day my characters experience, which is stupid. I can keep going and make it all tolerable, but I don't want to because I just want to get to the cool part and skip all the junk in between. I'm still learning how to wrap up a scene quickly and move on.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Jade Knight on November 11, 2005, 04:39:43 PM
The problem is that I don't even know what parts are cool.  This is my first novel ever, and I've no clue about pacing.

Really, the reason I hated it is because my writing was boring and I didn't see that changing.  I met with the local NaNoWriMo-ers in Montréal on Wednes, though, and they gave me a few good ideas.  Yesterday I did some new mindmapping and prewriting, and I'm okay again - I just have to write in a way that isn't boring (by having interesting characters and automatic conflict), rather than worrying about having a story that isn't boring.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Skar on November 11, 2005, 06:36:17 PM
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Rewrite it so that you don't hate it.


You know Heinlein said that a story was like an omelette.  You can fiddle with it while it's cooking, you can spice it up afterwards but if it's sitting there on your plate, all greasy and nasty and you don't like it, you can't put back in the pan and expect to make it any better.

And to bring that further home, when I was in college and writing two or three 5 page essays a week I discovered that the best way to turn out a good essay fast was to do two drafts.  Write the first one, throw it away in toto and then write the second one.  The second one was always a thousand times better because of all the things I learned about it while writing the first.  And two drafts was much faster than endlessly editing and tweaking the first draft.

Of course Nano isn't really about writing a "good" novel per se, is it?

2 cents added
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Jade Knight on November 12, 2005, 04:10:32 AM
A little over a thousand for the day and I'm calling it a night.

I'm still pitifully behind (projected to finish mid-January), but I am making process, and I'm learning tons about myself, writing, and my own writing process.

One thing I've learned is that I can't really write this story without prewriting randomly before each and ever writing session (it seems).

Also, I seem to be able to think/write better late at night (like now).  This is unfortunate, because it is, in part, keepign my wordcount down.

I'm not giving up yet, though.  Really, I'm only about 12,000 words behind schedule.  Not so bad, in the big scheme of things.  =þ
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: stacer on November 15, 2005, 03:53:38 AM
I haven't written for a week. I'm not saying I'm out of Nano, but I don't think now is a good time for me to try to push myself to write. I did finally finish one of the three edits today that I need to do within two months, which doesn't sound like much, but it's been overwhelming to me, what with traveling last month, getting the flu, and the company move. I've been so behind at work that I work late hours if I don't have to be somewhere (like FHE tonight--had to leave right at 5, which I can't normally do). So, either way I get home late and exhausted.

So, perhaps I'm not cut out to be a writer. I knew that already, of course, as far as full-time writing goes. But I'd like to clear my schedule (and my brain) enough to feel like I can get a little writing in. Perhaps next month, or January. Meanwhile, I'll continue to try to get in a little bit of writing on a regular basis, even if it is just a few hundred words a day, or less.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Jade Knight on November 15, 2005, 06:02:13 PM
Sorry to hear that Stacer.  I hope things go better for you, and good luck with keeping your writing up.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Nessa on November 16, 2005, 12:13:59 PM
Technically I'm not doing NaNo this year, but I had to share...

I've made it to 40,000 words. Horray!

That is all.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Fellfrosch on November 16, 2005, 03:55:07 PM
How are you not doing Nano, and yet have an enormous word count?
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Nessa on November 16, 2005, 07:07:44 PM
Because I started it in October.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: MsFish on November 16, 2005, 07:26:07 PM
I'm still at 4,000.  I can't concentrate on anything.  This means I'm probably getting depressed again.  I hate my life.  
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: stacer on November 16, 2005, 08:07:50 PM
I wish I had a video camera. I'd send you a video of Mogget chasing a feather, MsFish, and it would cheer you right up!  ;)
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Jade Knight on November 16, 2005, 09:05:56 PM
Yeah, I think we're all sucking at NaNoWriMo this year but Fell.  I'm currently running at about 40% capacity, myself (that is, 40% of what I should have at this point in the month).  And I've had a LOT of free time to do it in, too.  So I'm just stupid.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Nessa on November 16, 2005, 09:31:48 PM
Jade, for you, I think it has less to do with stupidity than frustration with your story. But you have to be motivated! I mean, I need it in two weeks to read it, right?
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Archon on November 17, 2005, 12:14:41 AM
So, who's up for taking next month off, and then doing an unofficial Nanowrimo in January? It seems that there are a bunch of people, including myself, that have not had a good month as far as word count, so would anyone be in for a redo?
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Chimera on November 17, 2005, 12:27:38 AM
I would. 'Course, I wasn't participating per se currently, but November is a terrible month for everyone for some reason. I would be up for doing our own nanowrimo some other month.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Jade Knight on November 17, 2005, 12:29:27 AM
Probably not if I'm back in school then.  If not, then definitely.

I'm still hoping I might, by some miracle, succeed this month.


Though, Nessa, to be honest, I've fixed or overcome most of the problems with my story, and I don't mind it so much anymore.  My real problem lies with...

Wikipedia.

Yeah, I spend literally hours reading Wikipedia (so much knolwedge, so convenient to find!) rather than writing.

This is why I suck.  The nerd in me is winning against the writer in me right now.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Chimera on November 17, 2005, 12:39:23 AM
At least you're learning. My writing avoidance tactic is meaningless RealArcade games. That is truly a waste of time. I know this, and yet so often I can't resist...  :P
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Nessa on November 17, 2005, 01:03:07 AM
It appears that Jade is his own worst enemy.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Jade Knight on November 17, 2005, 02:40:19 AM
Quitting for the night at an impressive 1,747.

Man, I am sooo far behind.  At least I did some major prewriting today that's cemented the plot pretty well, making it much easier to come up with scenes to write.

So I'm starting to pick up speeds of 800-900 words an hour.  If only I could get myself to write four hours a day, I'd be in good shape.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: stacer on November 17, 2005, 03:25:19 AM
I know what you mean. I need to find the time to just sit down and make myself write. As it is, I've been at the church every night this week so far, and will be there again tomorrow night. Then Friday night is Harry Potter (no way I'm staying home to write instead). Saturday is the day I always *intend* to spend catching up, but usually end up running errands and then coming home to take a nap. :)

But I don't see anything on my schedule this weekend, actually, so maybe I can get some solid writing time in. And then next week I have both Thanksgiving Day (busy busy) and the day after (not so busy) off work, so hopefully I can fill Friday and Saturday with writing. Or at least spend a *few* hours on it, which is more than I've done all week.

Ah, NaNoWriMo. The time for me to guilt myself with more intensity than the rest of the year. And the story still just percolates.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Spriggan on November 17, 2005, 03:39:14 AM
A free-lance project and a plumber named Mario pretty much killed my NaNo.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Jade Knight on November 17, 2005, 09:41:19 AM
Tomorrow we're doing HP early (so we get good seats&#8212;I could theoretically bring my laptop, but it would be a hassle.  I'm going to read instead), and then dinner.  I don't know how much time I'll have to write.

Saturday there's some huge YSA conference or other that lasts like 12 hours.  So not much time to write there, either.

I'm doomed.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: MsFish on November 17, 2005, 05:47:45 PM
I'd be up for January.  That's usually a pretty good month for me.  And it's the month of my birthday.  

Are you serious about it?

We could call it something else...like TWGNoWriMo.  

;D
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: stacer on November 17, 2005, 05:50:55 PM
Who? Did someone propose doing it another month? Because January would be a better month, I think. But I think we should still be able to count what we've already got. :D
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Jade Knight on November 17, 2005, 06:34:26 PM
I'm a lot happier with my novel, now.  It may still completely suck, but I HAVE A PLOT!!!!

WOOOO!!!

I have a complete plot, and it's a wonderful feeling.  I've struggled so hard with coming up with a plot before, and I've never succeeded.  Now I have a plot, and I'm writing a novel I feel is not absolutely and utterly boring.  I could be wrong, but I think it might have some potential after a few rewrites.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Archon on November 17, 2005, 07:10:58 PM
Yes Stacer, I suggested continuing another month. I proposed January because it would be a month off, it would avoid the craziness that the holiday season usually brings, and it would be the start of a new year. I am sure that nobody would have a problem with you keeping your word count if you like, so if it comes together, then why not? I would probably reset my word count myself, but I would be working on the same story, because I have a timeframe on it that I really have to meet.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: EUOL on November 17, 2005, 07:55:19 PM
Well, I'm rather behind this year.  18k so far.  Of course, I took a week off to work on another project, so I'm only now looking back to creating new material.  So, 7k of that 18 was done today....

I'll say that I'm sad we're not doing the calendar this year.  That isn't to say that I'm chastising SE for not doing it--more, I'm thanking him for the previous years.  I think that really helped motivate people.  We'll have to see if we can set something up for next year, something that SE doesn't have to spend all of this time working on.  
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: stacer on November 17, 2005, 08:20:44 PM
EUOL, how close are you to revising Alcatraz, by the way? I hadn't heard from you.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: MsFish on November 17, 2005, 08:38:47 PM
ARG!!!!!

Instead of writing my novel like I'm supposed to be, I instead came up with a completely new novel idea on which I have written 2,400 words of prewrite material--snatches of scenes and such.  

And it's a vampire novel, of all things.  I've never even *read* a vampire novel.  

Come to think of it, it's actually less a vampire novel and more a teen problem novel in which the problem is that the teen is a vampire.  

Point being, this is NOT what I'm supposed to be working on.  

I don't have writer's block.  I have writer's ADD.  At this rate I am never going to finish ANYTHING ever again.  
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: stacer on November 17, 2005, 08:48:02 PM
You have to admit, that's pretty funny. I love that the "problem" is that the teen is a vampire. :) Read Twilight if you ever get a chance. Though the problem in that one isn't that the girl is a vampire, it's that her crush is.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: EUOL on November 17, 2005, 08:50:10 PM
Stacy,

Alcatraz will be going through several more revisions.  I just did a spot revision, fixing some problems my agent had noted, and then sent it back to him.  However, I'm still waiting on reader responses on the book, and after those I'll do another revision.  So, get back to me whenever, but don't feel any pressure!
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Jade Knight on November 17, 2005, 10:37:43 PM
It's nice to see you take a break and showing up every now and then, Brandon.  =]
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Jade Knight on November 18, 2005, 01:04:20 AM
HURRAH!

Over 3,500 words, before midnight.  I'm really happy with myself.  I might still have a chance at succeeding this year, even though I'm currently projected to finish late December.

I don't think I have ever before written nearly this much fiction in one day in my life.  (I know, I'm pathetic.  Even during NaNo I haven't broken 2100 before now).
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on November 18, 2005, 09:32:12 AM
EUOL is going to be the henchman that never shows up in the TWG NWN Mod.

I also wrote over 3k last night, though I stopped at 11 since my wife was already asleep and I still had to come to work today. Best this year so far. I may have a shot at this thing.

As for the calendar, I know that SPrig had one half-coded last year, and I've learned enough that I could probably do one that would each person could update themselves next year if given enough notice (like, beginning of october).  I liked the calendar, but I'm too fickle and have too short an attention span.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: stacer on November 20, 2005, 02:16:45 AM
1694 words so far today. I know it's not much, compared to 50,000, but seeing as how I haven't written in a week and a half, it's a lot, especially because it puts me at 5481 total. I broke 5000! I'm 10% done! Yay!

And I'm not done yet. Oh, and that was 1399 in one hour of writing. This one scene flowed so much better than all 3000-odd words from before--I think I wrote twice as fast.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Jade Knight on November 20, 2005, 02:26:13 AM
I had a busy weekend.  Only 700 or so in 2 days.  So I'm somewhere near 17 or 18k.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: MsFish on November 21, 2005, 01:41:51 PM
I'm at 8k now.  Not bad for only actually having written three days out of the month.

Whoops.  

On the other hand, I think I figured out how to fix the first novel that I abandoned.  So maybe I'll have to write that one next month.  
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: MsFish on November 21, 2005, 07:32:33 PM
10k!  Yay hooray!
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: EUOL on November 24, 2005, 06:03:29 AM
32k here so far.  Hum.  I'm curious to see if I make 50k or not.  I haven't really increased my writing pace.  We'll just have to see.  
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: MsFish on November 25, 2005, 02:32:42 AM
I got seduced by HP and the Half-Blood Prince, which I had not yet read because I knew if I did it would eat my life.  

And it did.  I read the book in 36 hours, 12 of which were spent reading, and 16 of which were spend at work.  Ouch.  

So I'm still at 10k, but I no longer need to live in fear of spoilers.  I'm so not going to make 50k.  It was a nice thought, though.  

I still think I'll keep trying though, cause at least I am writing.  Which is an improvement.  
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Faster Master St. Pastor on November 25, 2005, 02:27:53 PM
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16 of which were spend at work.  Ouch.


I do not have a job.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on November 25, 2005, 05:20:52 PM
Read that more carefully...
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Faster Master St. Pastor on November 25, 2005, 05:53:55 PM
Oops! That goes dead now.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: stacer on November 26, 2005, 02:48:06 AM
8599 total, 3188 of which is today. Yay! Never going to make it to 50,000 by next week, but I'm making progress nonetheless.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: stacer on November 26, 2005, 04:34:33 AM
Actually, I kept writing. So my full count is 9709. Yay! Which means 4228 words today alone. I don't think I've ever written that many fiction words in one day ever. I might have matched it while frantically finishing my Black Bull novella for folk tale class, I suppose. But I'm still feeling pretty awesome about this.

Add to that a small piece of about 1100 words I wrote in late October--which I'm not counting for NaNo, but which was the inspiration for what I'm working on now--and I'm over 10,000 words on my way to an actual book. Now I'm starting to wonder if I can use any of the scenes from my novella for the other-world part of the book. Like I said, I'm not going to hit 50,000, so I might as well see how I can make the book itself work.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Fellfrosch on November 28, 2005, 07:48:05 PM
50,304. I accept adulation in the form of pizza, cheeseburgers, and/or root beer.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Spriggan on November 28, 2005, 08:27:09 PM
I'll bring a congratulatory gift this Thursday.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on November 29, 2005, 09:33:27 AM
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50,304. I accept adulation in the form of pizza, cheeseburgers, and/or root beer.

How about a cheerful post. Because that's about what you're getting.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: EUOL on November 30, 2005, 08:39:51 PM
50,759  

And with 6.5 hours to spare, no less!  It's not an official win, since I was working on previous projects like I always do, but it's still nice to hit the goal.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: stacer on November 30, 2005, 09:05:04 PM
Well, if I count previous projects to add to this, I get halfway there (same book, different incarnation). :) Of course, that's only the most recent version of the previous project, the novella I wrote in the spring.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Nessa on December 02, 2005, 01:51:22 PM
So how did everyone do?

On my unoffical NaNo I got to 51,000 words on the 30th (the one I actually started in October...).
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: The Jade Knight on December 02, 2005, 08:11:18 PM
About 25,000.

Ah, well, it's a new record for me.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Spriggan on December 03, 2005, 03:46:27 AM
Well, that free lance project kept me quite busy, didn't have any time to work on this for 3 weeks.  I know I'm not doing a book, but this can be almost as time consuming.

Most of the things that are left to do are cosmetic, like animated menus, more graphics and actually designing levels that are challenging.  And all the graphics in the game besides the actual sprites of the game (so the title screen, windows ect) are just place holders.  The three here are just test levels.

http://www.legacieslost.com/flash/cave/cave.html
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: stacer on December 03, 2005, 04:06:59 AM
I'm curious what the mystery edible thing that isn't food was.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Spriggan on December 03, 2005, 05:28:47 AM
What? you mean the Turkey Dinner we had Thursday night to celebrate NaNo?
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: stacer on December 03, 2005, 04:02:37 PM
Someone told me that you were bringing something edible, but that it wasn't food, and it intrigued me what that could be.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Fellfrosch on December 03, 2005, 10:24:08 PM
It only barely classified as "edible." It would be more accurate to say "non-toxic."
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Spriggan on December 05, 2005, 05:28:27 AM
That's some way to show your appreciation for my generosity, a five course meal isn't cheap you know.

Next time I'll bring you ramen instead.
Title: Re: Nanowrimo 2005
Post by: Fellfrosch on December 05, 2005, 12:17:07 PM
Cheap Sanderson boys with their fancy cars and their pretend jobs.