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Local Authors => Brandon Sanderson => Topic started by: EUOL on December 08, 2005, 06:25:23 PM
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Here it is:
(http://www.brandonsanderson.com/images/Mistborn.jpg)
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Sweet. Mucho different from Elantris, but cool nonetheless.
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It's really impressive, though that might be partly because it's so big here.
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Sweet! The guy's face is very cool, though personlly I like the style of Elantris more.
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Actually, I personally like this one more for some reason.
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I like that it's different. I'm not quite sure what's going on with the steel inquisitor's eyes--didn't they used to have spikes in them? And I still think we should see more of Vin and less of the inquisitor, and a better angle of Vin. But nonethless, it's a different style than the average fantasy out there, and it will communicate it in the artwork, even better than Elantris did, I think. I love the font.
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Y'know, no matter how many times I read about Vin jumping around in her party dresses, I never quite realized just how out-of-place it would look till I saw this cover art.
That Steel Inquisitor is gonna give me nightmares.
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I really like the angle of Vin in this picture.
The illustration shows off some strong figure drawing skills. It's also a good action shot and the dress is well done.
I also thought that the Inquisitors had spikes in their eyes.
I'm not too fond of the lines at the top and bottom of the page. Seams a little busy and they don't quite seem to be the right color.
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Aw, man, where are the spikes?! Stacer and 42 are right, it's rather disappointing that the Inquisitors (*shudder*) don't have the steel spikes through their eyes. :(
Anyway, I do like the figure of Vin. She looks small but powerful. Perfect. Even the curve of her foot is fascinating somehow. The glass dagger is way cool. I'm glad she's got the short hair like in the book, too.
But what's with the swirls on her petticoat? I guess this can be chalked up to reinforcing the swirling mist theme. Yet I think they're distracting. I kept wondering why the odd decoration. Did anyone else wonder about this? I guess I feel like it takes away from studying -her- and the knife or mistcloak.
I love the mistcloak! I envisioned it being more full, but it's great to see Vin wearing it.
The Mistborn font is cool. It looks very similar to this "Crusades" font I used for the title page on my Tor profile. Interesting.
The lines at the top and bottom sure are strange--almost like some kind of printing press mistake. The lines are rather reminiscent of a comb, actually. Huh.
I wonder if -not- having Kelsier on the cover tips the cards a bit too much, though? Sort of like not giving a Star Trek ensign a last name in an episode?
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Yeah. Steel spikes. Assuming those ARE inquisitors. They look more like statues.
The color scheme is...curious. Very muted. But I guess it's not a very colorful world they live in, is it?
No cover quote space? No "by the author of Elantris" etc? Or is this just preliminary?
It's rather different from any cover I've seen recently. That may help.
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It is very pink and purple...makes me think they are really trying to sell this to a female audience.
I didn't really notice the swirls in the petticoat the first time.
I like the title font, but I'm not so keen on the other fonts. The author font seems a little too clunky and the subtitle kind of gets lost.
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I actually just looked at it again from a smaller scale, so I could see it all at once, and I've changed my mind, at least partly. When I see it smaller, I can see the line and it feels like you can see where Vin is looking, feel the motion, you know.
So, yes, I like it. And I must say that even though the steel inquisitor doesn't have spikes in his eyes, it's not as graphic as the spikes and still looks creepy.
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I like the color scheme a lot -- it follows the feel of the book. The font, on the other hand, evokes merry prancing men in tights -- which is something I didn't get from Mistborn. My guess is that it was a marketing decision -- probably the same reason for the removal of the spikes. (I put an em dash in every one of the last three sentences -- Wow.)
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Dude!
That cover is awesome. I love it. I wish the Steel Inquisitors had spikes in their eyes instead of just featureless eyeballs but that complaint fades into insignificance in the face of the sheer awesomeness of the art. It's retro in a good way. It reminds me of all the sci-fi art from the golden age that I grew up with. But at the same time it's far more realistic and has way more motion.
Score.
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They originally had the spikes, the concept art I'm looking at now has them, but from what I understand TOR wanted them removed since they thought they were too graphic and might deter sales.
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So did EUOL have to write out the spikes in the book as well? It wouldn't make much sense to have spikes in text, but no spikes on the cover. And I liked the spikes. Graphic violence for the win!
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They originally had the spikes, . . . but from what I understand TOR wanted them removed since they thought they were too graphic and might deter sales.
Ahh, well, I can see that happening. I wonder how this affects the "revelations" EUOL was saving for how the Inquisitors are created? Doesn't this screw up some of the internal logic of "Spikealurgy" ;) somehow. (Note: I haven't finished WELL yet...)
Anyway, I agree with Froskar that the retro funkiness of the art is a big selling point. I still have some nitpicky things I don't like. But, by and large, it's definitely attention-getting.
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I think someone may have pointed this out already--and correct me if I'm wrong--but all priests in the Steel Ministry have tattoos of some sort. The ones on the cover must not be Inquisitors.
Either way, the cover's cool enough that I would definitely pick up the book if I hadn't heard anything about it.
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Okay I changed my mind. I think that the art on Elantris was better for a debut novel and this is better for umm, a non-debut novel
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So did EUOL have to write out the spikes in the book as well? It wouldn't make much sense to have spikes in text, but no spikes on the cover.
It's no big deal for the cover picture to be wrong in the details. It's been done that way in the industry since time immemorial. At least here it was done by choice rather than negligence--the artist not even reading the book (though even now it's only an assumption that the artist read it).
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Meh, spikes or no, it's pretty cool. I give it an A. Besides, I'm more interested in what's INSIDE the book. I usually just toss the cover in a corner with the other covers so that they don't get too damaged, and commence reading.
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I must be missing something being such a newb here. It would seem some folk have gotten their hands on all or part of Mistborn to read.....
....and here I am salivating for more Sanderson after Elantris.
Interesting...^_^
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That's because they've joined the Brandon Sanderson Fan Club, which is $20/year payable to my paypal account. This will get you full access to his website and drafts of all his books.
Which reminds me, all of you are past due for 2006, pay up.
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I paid you already. It's the $20 in your wallet that says "monopoly" on it.
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That's because they've joined the Brandon Sanderson Fan Club, which is $20/year payable to my paypal account. This will get you full access to his website and drafts of all his books.
Which reminds me, all of you are past due for 2006, pay up.
Yeah, I said I was a newbie, not a troglodite.
Is that the same Paypal account that you use to sell poorly painted warhammer men to unsuspecting 12 year olds?
:P
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As well as "candy"
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Call me sheltered--pun intended--but I had to look up "troglodyte." :) That's definitely the word for the day. Anyway, back to my cave.
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That cover is kind of cool but not quite perfect. I don't like the face in the bottom left - it's looks badly out of place. The orange bars are low-tech as well. The rest of it is pretty cool.
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I like this cover much more than the cover for Elantris, which was very good, but still seemed out of place for me. Of course, I would rather have this book bound in leather with weather-torn pages...that would fit it very well. Vin looks kinda like a fairy here, but it's just the mist--the mist is done so well it makes up for any grievances I may hold against this cover.
Other than the fact that Kelsier isn't on it. That makes me a sad panda, seeing as he is possibly my favorite character to ever come from you, EUOL. Oh well, it is still top class.
Which reminds me, all of you are past due for 2006, pay up.
No matter how many times I pay you, you say I haven't paid. It's almost like there's some sort of funny-buisiness going on here...oh well, no use coming up with conspiracy theories, the twenty bucks will be transfered again today.
:-D.
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I didn't like the Elantris cover at all. The characters looked too stiff (not like military stiff - more like manequin stiff) and the whole thing was just... bleh. I prefer book covers to be vivid and exciting. Almost none are - too many are just bland pictures of guys standing around holding swords on dull backgrounds.
This one is pretty cool though. Reminds me of exalted. And I never did get around to reading mistborn :P
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In reply to the original question up above, QuickTidal, a lot of the people on this board are long-time friends of mine who read my manuscripts for me during the long years when I was trying to get published. Some of them may even be relations of mine, though whether they will claim me depends on the day in question.
Generally, the TWG is a board started by a group of friends who wanted to keep in touch with one another once they graduated from college. Then, I bunch of crazy Brits, Aussies, and...where you from Gorgon? Michigan? Anyway, a bunch of random people started hanging out with us and saying neat things, which we think is cool.
I got published, and Dan aka Fellfroshe (the editor of the TWG and head honcho, who also happens to be the DM of my RPG campaign and a member of my writing group) let me set up shop here to have some Brandon Sanderson forums.
So, that's the short story regarding why a lot of people here have read MISTBORN. They bug me for hard copies and advance copies and the like. Those I trust REALLY well get electronic reading copies out of me to give feedback, and then get into the acknowledgements page of the book. (A lot of these people are in the acknowledgements of ELANTRIS.) So, hang around long enough, and you might be able to talk me into sending you reading copies.
Though, I do send out sample chapters to pretty much anyone who asks. So, if you ever want to see the first three chapters of anything I'm working on, just give me an email through my website. Or ask here. Whatever.
(Oh, and for other people, I believe QT here is a guy who was posting on a thread about ELANTRIS over on the Erickson forums, so be nice to him.)
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In reply to the original question up above, QuickTidal, a lot of the people on this board are long-time friends of mine who read my manuscripts for me during the long years when I was trying to get published. Some of them may even be relations of mine, though whether they will claim me depends on the day in question.
Generally, the TWG is a board started by a group of friends who wanted to keep in touch with one another once they graduated from college. Then, I bunch of crazy Brits, Aussies, and...where you from Gorgon? Michigan? Anyway, a bunch of random people started hanging out with us and saying neat things, which we think is cool.
I got published, and Dan aka Fellfroshe (the editor of the TWG and head honcho, who also happens to be the DM of my RPG campaign and a member of my writing group) let me set up shop here to have some Brandon Sanderson forums.
So, that's the short story regarding why a lot of people here have read MISTBORN. They bug me for hard copies and advance copies and the like. Those I trust REALLY well get electronic reading copies out of me to give feedback, and then get into the acknowledgements page of the book. (A lot of these people are in the acknowledgements of ELANTRIS.) So, hang around long enough, and you might be able to talk me into sending you reading copies.
Though, I do send out sample chapters to pretty much anyone who asks. So, if you ever want to see the first three chapters of anything I'm working on, just give me an email through my website. Or ask here. Whatever.
(Oh, and for other people, I believe QT here is a guy who was posting on a thread about ELANTRIS over on the Erickson forums, so be nice to him.)
Ok, way cool. I actually had a message board with my friends once cause we could never keep in touch via email, so I can dig that.
Thanks for the info, I assumed it was something along those lines. ^_^
....and I am INDEED the one and same QuickTidal from the Erikson boards!
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Where are said boards located?
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Where are said boards located?
http://www.malazanempire.com/forums/
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Where are said boards located?
The depths of HELL!
...of doom!
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And I'm sure I'll have very mixed feelings when he finally publishes a book I *haven't* already read. (Mixed because I'll be all "Wah, I moved out of Utah and never get to see anyone anymore!")
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The depths of HELL!
...of doom!
Is the hell of doom worse than the regular hell? Or is it better because it's the hell where doom goes, and since doom likes things ... er... hellish, it's a nice place where old ladies drink tea while their socialite friends read a play aloud in the garden?
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No SE, its England.
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Is the hell of doom worse than the regular hell?
Of course, by defenition, when you tack doom onto the end of something it gets worse.
As for your thing about doom going there, and hell and doom canceling each other out or whatever, it made no sense.
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It wasn't about cancelling out. It was about a hell FOR doom, rather than it being a quality of the Hell.
Sort of like Hell of monkeys
The monkeys might be the tormentors, or it might be the hell where monkeys go.
I'm asking if this hell of doom is where doom is merely adjectival, or if it's where condemned doom goes for eternity.
I can't be held responsible for your lack of ability to read plain English.
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I realize that doom, being a noun and hence a "thing," could grammatically be said to go somewhere and be subjected to something. Even so, I have trouble imagining what a non-physical aspect could do to condemn itself, and how it could be sent anywhere or subjected to anything.
That said, it occurs to me that the only way a doom could be condemned is if it failed to fulfill the measure of its creation, i.e., it was a very poor doom that did not harm, terrify, or doom the people it was supposed to. In that case, subjecting it to the typical hell seems more effective than subjecting it to some can't of anti-hell, because it's obviously a more sensitive, caring sort of doom that would find the anti-hell somewhat less than hellish.
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What if it was just lazy?