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Re: Arsenist Wanted
« Reply #30 on: June 26, 2003, 05:27:52 PM »
Who are we to take away the inaliable American right to argue  ;D

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Re: Arsenist Wanted
« Reply #31 on: June 26, 2003, 05:30:16 PM »
weird I replied to you post but it didn't post.
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Re: Arsenist Wanted
« Reply #32 on: June 27, 2003, 12:23:26 AM »
Actually one of the most poingant errors with Jeffe's argument is that he keeps relying on the recent sodomy law repeal. This repeal DOES in fact changing morality. CNN spent a good chunk of the afternoon showing stats about how the American populance doesn't think it's wrong anymore for the most part.

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Re: Arsenist Wanted
« Reply #33 on: June 27, 2003, 01:25:57 AM »
as long as it's two consenting adults, who cares what they do in their own bedroom.
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Re: Arsenist Wanted
« Reply #34 on: June 27, 2003, 04:35:22 AM »
Be careful about that last comment Spriggan. A sadist torturing a sado machoistic - both are concenting, yet i think it is safe to say that allowing them to take the hot irons to each other is a bit beyond the pale.
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Re: Arsenist Wanted
« Reply #35 on: June 27, 2003, 09:09:58 AM »
Well here's what the Supreme Court has to say to that

"the Bowers court was of course making the broader point that for centuries there have been powerful voices to condemn homosexual conduct as immoral, but this Courts obligation is to define the liberty of all, not to mandate its own moral code."

Lawrence ET AL v. Texas
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Re: Arsenist Wanted
« Reply #36 on: June 27, 2003, 12:51:09 PM »
So the Supreme Court is saying that centuries of people were wrong, and that we know better than they did? That it is wrong to prohibit certain things? That sounds like a moral choice to me.
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Re: Arsenist Wanted
« Reply #37 on: June 27, 2003, 02:08:09 PM »
Not to interupt, but I got an apartment. Signed the lease just a few minutes ago.

Now you can go back to your discussion on laws and morals.
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Re: Arsenist Wanted
« Reply #38 on: June 27, 2003, 03:03:19 PM »
Don't just leave it at that--where's your new apartment? How soon will you be moving in?
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Re: Arsenist Wanted
« Reply #39 on: June 27, 2003, 07:52:48 PM »
The apartment is in south Orem, a couple blocks away from where EUOL and Tage used to live.

It's in the basement of an old house, but the interior has been newly remodeled. Spriggan and Prometheus will be moving with me. It's a three bedroom apartment, and the owners are covering the utilities so I won't have to worry about Spriggan forgetting to pay bills as long as he pays rent on time.

We'll be moving-in in about two weeks
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