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New metal idea
« on: August 21, 2010, 04:45:25 PM »
I emailed Brandon some months back, and he replied back to me. I game him an idea for a metal in my email, and he suggested I post it on this forum. This is what I said:
"I was thinking another cool metal would be to be able to talk to Preservation, and its alloy to be able to talk to Ruin. I know that either can sort of talk to you, but you cannot reply back, either does not know what you are thinking."
And Sanderson's reply (regarding metals) was this:
"As for the metals, I do intend my readers to speculate and interpret the metals uses.  There has been a lot of discussion about this on some forums like The Time Waster's Guide.  However, I am writing a sequel trilogy to Mistborn someday...
You have an interesting idea about a metal affecting Ruin and Preservation.  You might add that to one of the discussions on a forum or on the Mistborn website to see what others think about it as well."
So, there it is. What do you people think?

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Re: New metal idea
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2010, 05:31:16 PM »
Since the end of HoA, with Ruin and Preservation now being the twin powers of one person, there is nothign opposing him from talking to anyone very very clearly, e.g. dropping a note in front of them or listening to anything they say, I guess the issue is getting his attention as he could be looking in the wrong way at the time. So a metal that gets his attentions perhaps... Hmm...

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Re: New metal idea
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2010, 06:29:14 PM »
Well, hemalurgic spikes allow Ruin to telepathically talk to (and physically control) people. There may be something similar for Preservation in allomancy. Perhaps that's one of the unknown effects of lerasium.
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Re: New metal idea
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2010, 12:04:29 AM »
Maybe an alloy of Lerasium and Copper lets you hear Preservation/Sazed?

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Re: New metal idea
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2010, 09:21:06 PM »
Maybe an alloy of Lerasium and Copper lets you hear Preservation/Sazed?

I believe that's established as giving one the ability to burn copper.
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Re: New metal idea
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2010, 09:34:27 PM »
I believe that's established as giving one the ability to burn copper.
I'm pretty sure that that's what would happen if you ate the metal. Burning it would have a different effect.
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Re: New metal idea
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2010, 10:12:03 PM »
Having all these different Larasium alloys adds loads to the table of allomantic metals, who's to say they would do anything? GIving somebody the ability to burn copped by giving them something made of two components one of which would give the ability to burn all metals doesn't really make much sense....

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Re: New metal idea
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2010, 10:35:25 PM »
Having all these different Larasium alloys adds loads to the table of allomantic metals, who's to say they would do anything? GIving somebody the ability to burn copped by giving them something made of two components one of which would give the ability to burn all metals doesn't really make much sense....
We do  have the word of god on this. Alloys of Lerasium change someone into a misting.

It wouldn't make sense from the perspective of the person gaining power (unless the alloying focuses the potency instead of just specifying an ability), but if you don't want to give someone the full set for purposes of control, it makes perfect sense.
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Re: New metal idea
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2010, 04:21:20 AM »
Maybe the alloys give section of the wheel. So Lerasium & Aluminum would give enhancement powers, Steel would do physical, etc.

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Re: New metal idea
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2010, 04:46:31 PM »
Having all these different Larasium alloys adds loads to the table of allomantic metals, who's to say they would do anything? GIving somebody the ability to burn copped by giving them something made of two components one of which would give the ability to burn all metals doesn't really make much sense....
We do  have the word of god on this. Alloys of Lerasium change someone into a misting.

Do we? Because the last I heard, it was never directly confirmed. Larasium alloys were thought to make mistings, but it was still just speculation. I do agree, it does seem to be the best and most likely explanation. I'm just hesitant to base a lot of my assumptions off of it, because when it gets shot down, all that theorizing is moot ;D.


But I could be wrong. Do you mind letting me know where this was confirmed? Or at least pointing me in the right direction (Q&A, annotation, a specific thread)?



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Re: New metal idea
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2010, 08:55:17 PM »
Having all these different Larasium alloys adds loads to the table of allomantic metals, who's to say they would do anything? GIving somebody the ability to burn copped by giving them something made of two components one of which would give the ability to burn all metals doesn't really make much sense....
We do  have the word of god on this. Alloys of Lerasium change someone into a misting.

Do we? Because the last I heard, it was never directly confirmed. Larasium alloys were thought to make mistings, but it was still just speculation. I do agree, it does seem to be the best and most likely explanation. I'm just hesitant to base a lot of my assumptions off of it, because when it gets shot down, all that theorizing is moot ;D.


But I could be wrong. Do you mind letting me know where this was confirmed? Or at least pointing me in the right direction (Q&A, annotation, a specific thread)?
I'm pretty it says so on the Allomantic Metals poster.  Chaos, confirmation on this?
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Re: New metal idea
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2010, 09:23:34 PM »
I believe a relevant quote can be found in the B&N interviews, and the Table of Allomantic Metals confirms it too. Here it is:
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...In alloy form, it produces various expanded physical and enhancement effects. (Including the creation of Mistings)

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Re: New metal idea
« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2010, 09:34:01 PM »
Heh, yeah, I just checked the table. My bad.

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Re: New metal idea
« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2010, 07:44:11 AM »
It should be noted that the Table of Allomantic Metals is an in-world creation. They don't have a lot of lerasium to exactly experiment with it.

The other 17th Shard people and I just interviewed Brandon today, and while we don't have the transcript or the audio edited yet, I can tell you that there seems to be many more than just sixteen alloys of each god metal. There's a finite amount, but there seems to be a lot of them. He wouldn't elaborate on what they'd do. But, in my opinion, I certainly couldn't say that such metals could not explicitly exist.

Also, in Brandon's words, "You can do a lot of cool things with lerasium..."
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