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Re: "Death" of Ruin and Preservation
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2010, 06:14:27 AM »
Sorry guys, I may have had a brain fart. My comment may be meaningless.

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Re: "Death" of Ruin and Preservation
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2010, 09:01:29 AM »
Sorry guys, I may have had a brain fart. My comment may be meaningless.
Well, yeah, we already know Ati- I mean Ruin's name.
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Re: "Death" of Ruin and Preservation
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2010, 04:25:10 PM »
Yeah, I knew the guy's name was Ati, but if Peter wasn't going to come out and say it, I didn't want to either.  I thought he, with full knowledge of Ati's name, was saying that he would be in WoK.  Oh well.
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Re: "Death" of Ruin and Preservation
« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2010, 04:47:47 PM »
Perhaps Ati and Leras were only the names of these people AFTER they were bound to the shards... maybe they have other names when they are mortal human beings.
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Re: "Death" of Ruin and Preservation
« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2010, 06:45:37 PM »
Perhaps Ati and Leras were only the names of these people AFTER they were bound to the shards... maybe they have other names when they are mortal human beings.

Yeah, thats kind of what I was wondering when I posed the original question... the human bodies that remain when Ati and Leras "die" are described too specifically.  Why even have bodies for them at all if the bodies weren't important in some way.
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Re: "Death" of Ruin and Preservation
« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2010, 09:17:48 PM »
ARGH! I'm not sure whether to curse or bless you, Peter (The Unassimilable!).
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Re: "Death" of Ruin and Preservation
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2010, 01:07:47 PM »
Is Way of Kings going to be tied into the Mistborn series?

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Re: "Death" of Ruin and Preservation
« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2010, 03:02:14 PM »
Ish. There's a giant cosmology behind the large novels. Each world has at least one Shard (the thing that Preservation and ruin were, and what Sazed became). There's also a character named Hoid who jumps around from world to world (he's appeared in every book so far). I assume, from the prelude, that Adonalsium, (what the shards came from), shatters sometime during the Stormlight Archives.

Brandon says that he will, at sometime, write short stories about Hoid. He might decide to have characters meet from different worlds.

But don't expect Spook to suddenly appear in the middle of a fight in Way of Kings. Although, we may meet Ruin and Preservation (their names are Ati and Leras) before they become shards.

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Re: "Death" of Ruin and Preservation
« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2010, 03:43:45 PM »
You should not assume that from the Prelude.
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Re: "Death" of Ruin and Preservation
« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2010, 08:50:58 PM »
You should not assume that from the Prelude.

I still assume it, but no evidence from the prelude supports my assumption.
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Re: "Death" of Ruin and Preservation
« Reply #25 on: June 25, 2010, 05:04:51 AM »
Ish. There's a giant cosmology behind the large novels. Each world has at least one Shard (the thing that Preservation and ruin were, and what Sazed became). There's also a character named Hoid who jumps around from world to world (he's appeared in every book so far). I assume, from the prelude, that Adonalsium, (what the shards came from), shatters sometime during the Stormlight Archives.

Brandon says that he will, at sometime, write short stories about Hoid. He might decide to have characters meet from different worlds.

But don't expect Spook to suddenly appear in the middle of a fight in Way of Kings. Although, we may meet Ruin and Preservation (their names are Ati and Leras) before they become shards.

Emphasis mine.

There's really nothing that suggests that, in fact there's very little magic in the preview chapters apart from that one viewpoint, which seems to have nothing to do with the kind of large-scale magic we've come to associate with the Shards thanks to Mistborn.

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Re: "Death" of Ruin and Preservation
« Reply #26 on: June 25, 2010, 11:13:45 PM »
I thought I had heard from either a blog post or this forum somewhere that The Stormlight Archive is somewhere around the middle of the larger story Brandon has created.
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Re: "Death" of Ruin and Preservation
« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2010, 12:19:14 AM »
And Adonalsium shatters near the beginning of the larger story.
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Re: "Death" of Ruin and Preservation
« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2010, 03:56:52 PM »
And Adonalsium shatters near the beginning of the larger story.

OOoo!! so, he already shattered.
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Re: "Death" of Ruin and Preservation
« Reply #29 on: June 26, 2010, 10:46:27 PM »
And Adonalsium shatters near the beginning of the larger story.

OOoo!! so, he already shattered.

Yep, hence Ruin and Preservation and Endowment and everyone else we've seen so far and don't have names for as of yet, haha.

Something I'm hoping to see, eventually (and perhaps even sooner than later), is a timeline placing Elantris, Mistborn, Warbreaker, and The Stormlight Archive chronologically for us fans.  I imagine the Master will make us wait until he's revealed more about the events surrounding the Shattering and Hoid's plot, but it never hurts to dream.
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