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Wise Man's Fear Release Date
« on: April 30, 2010, 12:00:25 AM »
Patrick Rothfuss's latest blog post said its March 1st, 2011. I think this is pretty exciting news.
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Re: Wise Man's Fear Release Date
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2010, 12:08:34 AM »
horray! finally.
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Re: Wise Man's Fear Release Date
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2010, 02:49:24 AM »
Exciting that it's finally announced, maybe. Not so exciting that it's so far off. Unsurprising and understandable, but not exciting. :\
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Re: Wise Man's Fear Release Date
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2010, 03:28:34 AM »
Well, it makes sense if he said he can finish it in September, that it takes so long.
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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2010, 12:24:46 PM »
He did not say March 1st. He said March 2011.

I dare someone to update his blog to ask him whether he started working on third one yet. Just to mess with him.

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Re: Wise Man's Fear Release Date
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2010, 02:42:09 PM »
That is one book that will go on my pre-order list.
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Re: Wise Man's Fear Release Date
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2010, 04:38:52 PM »
Well, it makes sense if he said he can finish it in September, that it takes so long.

I did say it was unsurprising and understandable. That doesn't mean it has to make me happy. But, well, I'm a grownup I guess. I can deal. :P
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« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2010, 09:12:36 PM »
He did not say March 1st. He said March 2011.

No, his publishers said this.

This is truly great news. My friend nearly got a fit when I told him that Rothfuss wasn't done with the second one.

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Re: Wise Man's Fear Release Date
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2010, 12:01:20 PM »
I guess he takes his own advice from his blog "live cheaply". He doesn't work outside of writing and he publishes a book every 4 years. I am sure he sells a nice number of copies, but still. I think he is a similiar writer to George RR Martin in that he is a perfectionist and everything has to be re-written 50 times until it feels just write. I am ok with that, but I would feel the pressure to publish quicker just to have the income. I am sure the book sold well, but it was not a #1 bestseller.

I am waiting for someone to start asking the guy about the 3rd one. I have a mean streak to me.

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Re: Wise Man's Fear Release Date
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2010, 07:22:30 PM »
He did not say March 1st. He said March 2011.

I dare someone to update his blog to ask him whether he started working on third one yet. Just to mess with him.

Later in the blog post, he did say March 1st.

He said:

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So thatís what happened today: I found out the publication date for The Wise Manís Fear Ė March 1st 2011.
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Re: Wise Man's Fear Release Date
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2010, 10:48:43 PM »
I guess he takes his own advice from his blog "live cheaply". He doesn't work outside of writing and he publishes a book every 4 years. I am sure he sells a nice number of copies, but still. I think he is a similiar writer to George RR Martin in that he is a perfectionist and everything has to be re-written 50 times until it feels just write. I am ok with that, but I would feel the pressure to publish quicker just to have the income. I am sure the book sold well, but it was not a #1 bestseller.

I am waiting for someone to start asking the guy about the 3rd one. I have a mean streak to me.

Does anyone actually know if he's being paid per book or did he get some kind of deal for all three upfront, which seems to be the case alot of times.  I'm excited about the sequel and I'm not in a way.  Quite frankly I don't want to wait another 4 years for the final book.  That's just too long in between sequels.  Publishers really should set timeframes of 1-2 years to finish a book.

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Re: Wise Man's Fear Release Date
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2010, 04:54:26 AM »
I guess he takes his own advice from his blog "live cheaply". He doesn't work outside of writing and he publishes a book every 4 years. I am sure he sells a nice number of copies, but still. I think he is a similiar writer to George RR Martin in that he is a perfectionist and everything has to be re-written 50 times until it feels just write. I am ok with that, but I would feel the pressure to publish quicker just to have the income. I am sure the book sold well, but it was not a #1 bestseller.

I am waiting for someone to start asking the guy about the 3rd one. I have a mean streak to me.

Does anyone actually know if he's being paid per book or did he get some kind of deal for all three upfront, which seems to be the case alot of times.† I'm excited about the sequel and I'm not in a way.† Quite frankly I don't want to wait another 4 years for the final book.† That's just too long in between sequels.† Publishers really should set timeframes of 1-2 years to finish a book.


With these books, that's just unrealistic. They're big and complex beasts written by a perfectionist. If you wanted them in 1-2 years, they wouldn't be nearly the books they are, which means they wouldn't exist at all because I doubt Rothfuss would want to write them like that. Some works take time, and you can't just wave a magic deadline wand and make them go faster.

And don't bring Brandon Sanderson into this. He's at the top end of the bell curve. Very few people can write as fast as he can. :)
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« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2010, 12:45:25 PM »
given that he got a website, he probably got a 3 book deal out of it. That being said, it looks like his first book sold very well so I would assume that he made royalties so he outsold his advance. So that being said, his advance for his next two books is probably smaller than what his sales will be.

He lives in Wisconsin where it is cheap to live
He worked as a part time college instructor. They don't make much money. His girlfriend works.

He is probably ok with not having alot of money. Plus it sounds like his first book may have sold a few hundred thousand copies. At about $2-2.50/copy you can live in wisconsin pretty well off of that for a number of years.

Connie Willis does not publish very often. Dianna Gabaldon who writes very long time travel romance (they are good and I don't like romance novels) publishes about 1 every 3 years but sells so many she is fine. Then you have Georrge RR Martin who probably is a multi-millionaire so he can afford to be aperfectionist.


II canread the extra work that authors put in a book vs. a book that is punched out in a few months. I heards that Brandon Sanderson is basically taking books he worked on for years before he waspublished and making them into  novels. That is probably a big part of why he is publishhing so fast he has years of pre-existing work.

I used to be a big fan of Harry Turtledove. I stopped reading his books since they becamse so formulaic. He punches out so much material that he can't come up with brand new stuff at that pace.

There are exceptions. The Road by Cormac McCary(won a pullitzer) is fantasit and he punched it out in a few weeks.

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Re: Wise Man's Fear Release Date
« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2010, 02:15:44 PM »
With these books, that's just unrealistic. They're big and complex beasts written by a perfectionist. If you wanted them in 1-2 years, they wouldn't be nearly the books they are, which means they wouldn't exist at all because I doubt Rothfuss would want to write them like that. Some works take time, and you can't just wave a magic deadline wand and make them go faster.

And don't bring Brandon Sanderson into this. He's at the top end of the bell curve. Very few people can write as fast as he can. :)

Why?  Because the book looks like it's going to end up being a thousand pages?  You know what I say to that?  Split it.   I don't believe there's anything in his contract that says he can't write more than 3 books.  Plenty of authors have ended up turning their trilogies into sagas.   I'd rather have that by far than wait endlessly for him to finish one enormous tome after another.   


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Re: Wise Man's Fear Release Date
« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2010, 05:41:21 PM »
Splitting the book from one monster huge book into three books is a major part of what caused the delay in the first place. He had to rework the first book so it would have somewhat of a beginning, middle, and end, and when that was done, he had to rework the second book so it fit with the changes he made at the end of the first book.

Splitting is not something easy to do well. You can end up with two weak books instead of one great one. That's how I feel about Bujold's Sharing Knife books. And it's likely the case with Robin Hobb's newest book.
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