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Re: Magic Systems
« Reply #30 on: November 11, 2009, 07:37:45 PM »
Maybe.... Zelazny has a story in which Jack the Ripper is the savior of man!
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Re: Magic Systems
« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2009, 01:39:16 AM »
So, answer me truly. Am I a bad person?
No way! I think Dinosaur Comics had a strip about gaining the power of everything you eat, but it was a little less creepy and more "I've eaten so many steaks, I have the strength of five cows."

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Re: Magic Systems
« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2009, 02:08:38 AM »
i like it Valkynphyre.  very simple, but a lot of possibilities.  and i don't think ur a bad person. the main character in the story i'm writing right now is becomes suicidal halfway through it.
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Re: Magic Systems
« Reply #33 on: November 14, 2009, 12:44:31 AM »
I have One I'm ok with sharing.

Cannibalism. You eat human muscle, you get stronger. You eat a human eye, your vision increases. The amount by which your abilities increase is directly proportional to how  'fresh' the meat is.

Often, in their wills people will bequeath body parts to their kin.

Simple, yet creepy.

I think what I like most about this is that it gives me the opportunity to create a serial killer who is a hero.


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You're not a bad person, but you may be a horror writer. :)

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Re: Magic Systems
« Reply #34 on: November 14, 2009, 06:02:45 AM »
Cannibalism Magic is not much different than feruchemy, to a degree (from a "horror" standpoint anyway)

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Re: Magic Systems
« Reply #35 on: November 14, 2009, 11:20:44 AM »
Cannibalism Magic is not much different than feruchemy, to a degree (from a "horror" standpoint anyway)

Except from the part where you're eating bits of other people who you may even have killed yourself.

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Re: Magic Systems
« Reply #36 on: November 14, 2009, 11:43:33 PM »
It's a lot more like Hemalurgy.
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Re: Magic Systems
« Reply #37 on: November 15, 2009, 12:26:54 AM »
Pretty sure they meant to say hemalurgy. Otherwise, they wouldn't have mentioned the horror standpoint. I don't recall Feruchemy ever being associated with horror.

Frankly, I think the cannibalism magic is pretty freaking awesome, though it is more than a little disturbing. And no, that doesn't make you a bad person, just willing to discuss slightly morbid things.
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Re: Magic Systems
« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2009, 02:48:29 AM »
yes, Hemalurgy, sorry for the confusion.

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Re: Magic Systems
« Reply #39 on: November 16, 2009, 01:30:23 AM »
That makes more sense than Feruchemy, hah! Sorry about that :)

Anyways, I've finished drafting costs for Eno now so I thought I'd share that, too. Eno has the traditional fantasy "see magic through fantastic glows and auras" magic detection system, unlike Ida. Also unlike Ida, Eno has a balanced effect on the world- every action needs an equal and opposite reaction. Instead the cost is personal, and unlike most personal costs, Eno doesn't make you tired, it makes you sick.

There's also some thematics to the personal cost: Enomancers can alter physical constants, like making things more flammable, weakening the nuclear force so things fall apart more easily, setting up anti-gravity fields, etc... To make an antigravity field, you have to make another equally sized field with double-gravity. Each of these abilities brings on different sicknesses: working with flammability gives you a fever, messing with gravity upsets your sense of balance, working with nuclear forces makes you tired, playing with momentum makes you queasy if you move, and so on.

So the depth of someone's power is their state of health, not an abstract magical strength. An Enomancer needs to be in top condition to perform large quantities of magic, and can quite easily kill himself if he don't know his limits.
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Re: Magic Systems
« Reply #40 on: November 16, 2009, 02:00:35 AM »
You know, Ari, that sounds pretty interesting! It will be cool to see where that goes!

Like many of the others around here, I am also a writer, but unlike Brandon and all the others around here, I am nowhere near being ready to write any massive, involved fantasy books. Unfortunately, at this point almost all of my writing is in the form of short fiction. And writing short fiction, I don't really end up with in-depth magic systems.

If there is any magic, it is a minor side-point, and not something that you learn anything about how the magic works.

Instead, my short stories are usually a fantasy treatment of a non-fantasy setting. For example, I was working in a cellular provider call center for a few weeks, and really hated a lot of the stupid things they had us do, as a part of the job. I wrote up a humorous story about somebody working in a wizard's supply company off of the situation.

It's a short story, only three or four pages, and I enjoyed writing it quite a bit.

Would be glad to post it here, if anybody else would like to see it.

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Re: Magic Systems
« Reply #41 on: November 16, 2009, 04:05:00 AM »
Sounds fun! I'd like to take a look at it, at least. You could always email it to me if you're thinking about ever trying to get it published. My emails in my profile.

And as for some of us around here writing big involved fantasy novels, we never said they were any good...
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Re: Magic Systems
« Reply #42 on: November 16, 2009, 04:24:27 AM »
I can build a world give you all the information in atlas form... write summaries of the history for the last 100 years and then write a detailed outline. I however have very little "authorship" ability and can't write all that well. It appears that my creativity, like most of my other talents, is half of the whole.
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Re: Magic Systems
« Reply #43 on: November 16, 2009, 05:33:48 AM »
I know how that goes.

I can write some nice scenes and dialog, I can word things well, but when it comes to actual plotting, not so much.

Instead, I get so far into a story, and then no longer know how to get to a conclusion.

I manage to avoid that problem with the short stories, though.

I'll post my story in it's own thread, and wait to see if it gets any comments, or possibly gets deleted for not being appropriate for the forum.

Just reread it tonight, and still found it funny, though perhaps a little bit rough.

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« Reply #44 on: November 16, 2009, 08:06:37 PM »
I can develop a plot and narrate but that's it, my dialog ect. sucks.
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