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Which author is the most overated in the genre?

J.K. Rowling
J. R. R. Tolkien (choose this and Gollum will eat you)
Robert Jordan (LIES!!!)
Terry Goodkind
Orson Scott Card
Terry Brooks

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Re: Authors undeserving of their fame.....possibly
« Reply #30 on: October 19, 2009, 07:19:06 PM »
you know, I had thought of picking up some of his works, now though, I wont. Does not help his cause that I thought "Legend of the Seeker" was awful. (Although a friend who turned me on to the Malazan series loves Legend. Go figure.)
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« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2009, 07:27:34 PM »
Thank you for mentioning the most over-rated (not worst) series in Sci-Fi!!!! (as mentioned before i refuse to recognize Meyer as an author and as such Twilight is not a series).
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Re: Authors undeserving of their fame.....possibly
« Reply #32 on: October 19, 2009, 07:31:01 PM »
So, after all of my badmouthing of Terry Brooks (not to this person, thankfully), one of my friends excitedly showed me a picture of her meeting Brooks. Congratulations on meeting him! I'm not going to say anything about how much I hate his work!
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Re: Authors undeserving of their fame.....possibly
« Reply #33 on: October 19, 2009, 07:38:33 PM »
The interview I read from him said, "I can't remember the last time I read a novel." Okay, so he's dyslexic, but come on... Don't claim your stuff is original when all you have is the belief that it is.

Because wow, if that were the case, I could totally sell my first book. Plenty of me believing it was original in there!

This is my main problem. It's like a writing group I went to, and I asked "So what does everyone read and get their influences from?" And people said they only read Dragonlance, or one guy said he hadn't read a novel in years--just books on writing. Understand the genre people. Understand the genre.

Which is why I like your review site so much, Steve. I need to read more, and you give a mountain of suggestions. I love it.
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« Reply #34 on: October 19, 2009, 08:42:57 PM »
Yeah, between Nick and I, we have read a book or 2. We read the bad ones so you don't have to.
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Re: Authors undeserving of their fame.....possibly
« Reply #35 on: October 20, 2009, 06:08:31 PM »
I am not surprised that alot of them are athiests/agnostics, since, like you said, most religions think it is blasphemy when an author gets into magic and the like, and also, it makes sense that there would be more Mormons if they are more accepting of those types of books.

I was not using statistics for my find, more like: 5th author in a row thatI have read that was Mormon. I just thought that was odd. Especially sinces Mormons are a small percentage of the population, that we would find such a large percentage in the SF/fantasy writing field. Especially with more recent authors, not so much with older works.

There are a few potential reasons for this:

1.  Mormons tend to have more exposure in all respectable fields than they exist as a population.  Compare the number of Mormons who are doctors, lawyers, politicians, teachers, etc., and you'll always have higher percentages than their population base.

2.  For quite some time now (perhaps over 20 years) a course on Writing Science Fiction/Fantasy has been taught at BYU, encouraging Latter-day Saints which attend that university to explore the genre.  Generally, this course has been taught by published LDS Spec. Fic. authors (like Dave Wolverton and Brandon Sanderson).

3.  The Leading Edge is one of the better small-press Spec. Fic. magazines out there, and it's headquartered at BYU.  This gives many Latter-day Saints hands-on experience in getting involved with Sci-Fi/Fantasy publication, as well as providing a fairly natural place for them to submit their work to try to start their careers in the genre.

4.  LDS folks are much more likely to be multi-lingual than the average American, and this always helps with Fantasy.
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Re: Authors undeserving of their fame.....possibly
« Reply #36 on: October 20, 2009, 08:57:21 PM »
Darn it someone broke the Rowling Card tie... :(
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Re: Authors undeserving of their fame.....possibly
« Reply #37 on: November 04, 2009, 12:35:09 AM »
I personally thought Eragon was pretty decent. Yes, unorginal, but since it was written by a 15 year old, I'm willing to put that aside. It was an entertaining read. The other two however. You'd think he'd get better as he got older. You'd think he'd get more original. But no. No, he doesn't. If anything, he gets worse. That's saying something...

I agree with this. The biggest problem with Eragon is that someone published it (which is entirely not the kid's fault). I would never show my face to the world if someone published my first book.
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Re: Authors undeserving of their fame.....possibly
« Reply #38 on: November 04, 2009, 05:45:07 AM »
Are you kidding? I tip my hat off to all the multi-millonares i meet... no matter if they have just an organized set up for stealing your lunch money! Green is green!!!



Yay Card and Rowling are tied again!!!
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Re: Authors undeserving of their fame.....possibly
« Reply #39 on: November 06, 2009, 10:30:35 PM »
Sorry, I just voted for Card.

Card, to me, is very uneven.  He has moments of sheer brilliance, but his series always seem to fizzle out.  Perhaps he should just write stand-alones.

Totally agree about his series, although I do think the Ender series is quite good. But the rest stink.
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Re: Authors undeserving of their fame.....possibly
« Reply #40 on: November 07, 2009, 02:45:12 AM »
No need to apoligize you are after all agreeing with me.... otherwise yes you should apoligize
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Re: Authors undeserving of their fame.....possibly
« Reply #41 on: November 07, 2009, 07:50:52 AM »
Card, to me, is very uneven.  He has moments of sheer brilliance, but his series always seem to fizzle out.  Perhaps he should just write stand-alones.

That is exactly the same reason I voted for Card.

Loved Ender's Game and Ender's Shadow, couldn't do any other book in that series.

Plus I tried some of his others, parts were amazing, but the rest were just crappy.
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Re: Authors undeserving of their fame.....possibly
« Reply #42 on: November 07, 2009, 10:35:30 AM »
I had to vote for Rowling, for a couple of reasons.

1) Every other one of the authors I've read has given me ideas. Maybe their books weren't the best on the planet, but they at least kept me (mostly) intrigued. Sure, every series has its ups and downs (Goodkind and Jordan both kinda seemed to get lost in the miasma of plot they had, for example), but Rowling... I find it hard to call that literature. Flat characters against a drab environment with very little development at all. There was nothing there to "borrow" for my own writing at all, or even give me pointers into how to write better. And no, I don't consider looking at her writing and knowing what not to do as all that valuable.

2) I've never put down a book other than hers in my entire reading existence. I even read all of Goodkind's series, even though there were parts where it got a little tough. Unless a novel is really good, I just consider it a light read, look for things I can twist and use in my own writing, and move on. Rowling, on the other hand, got way too boring. I knew what was going to happen throughout each book, and finally just gave up. It's sad, really, that so many people cut their teeth on that drivel.

That said, holy Toledo, people seem to hate Twilight! I'm glad I haven't even bothered to pick it up. And I totally agree with everyone's impression of Eragon. Completely unoriginal. Even I have more sense than to rip off Star Wars, Pern, and Tolkien and shove it all into a book without changing much of anything. I probably would have voted for Paolini if he was an option.
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« Reply #43 on: November 07, 2009, 05:46:43 PM »
If Meyers was on the poll 100% of us non-newbs would have voted for her but that would mean we recognized her as an author.... which i refuse to do
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Re: Authors undeserving of their fame.....possibly
« Reply #44 on: November 07, 2009, 06:10:38 PM »
If Meyers was on the poll 100% of us non-newbs would have voted for her but that would mean we recognized her as an author.... which i refuse to do

Yeah, and wilson would have your head, too.

Though if both Paolini and Meyers were on there, I might have to think about it a bit...
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