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What would you do?
« on: August 23, 2004, 09:10:10 PM »
I've got a dilemma.

Background: I'm 5 classes into a 9-class master's program. I took spring and summer this year off to work full time, because it's an expensive program. When I attend school full time, student loans cover my tuition and leave me with enough money to cover rent for the semester, but little more. Most of you know this already.

The solution seemed to be getting tuition reimbursement through my company, and to finish one class at a time over the next year-ish. But the department has final approval, and since it isn't specifically department-related, even though it's company-related, funding for my class wasn't approved on that front.

So, I have to make a decision: continue with school full-time and hope I can make it through the semester on the tiny amount of money I have, plus whatever I can pull in through an as yet non-existent part-time job, or, give up on the program altogether.

So, I talked to my boss about it. What are my options? Could I go part time within the same job?

She came back to me today saying that this fall will be the "big push" and that they really need me. If I go to half time, that leaves them with two unexperienced girls (one who just started today and one a couple weeks ago) to cover what I could do. They just don't have enough people.

So, the management isn't really thrilled with the idea of me going to less time at work when they really need me. They value my work, and think I have great potential as an editor. They're trying to come up with solutions that could work for me and for them, so they can keep me and I can afford one class. They've offered to write the school to ask them to consider giving me financial aid for the one class, but the problem is, as most of you former and current students in the U.S. would probably know, if you're not going 1/2 time, you're not eligible for federal aid--and my school doesn't have any private programs for aid for grad students in my program.

Okay. So, they want me to stay. They even suggested that maybe I could wait to go back to school till January, because the big push should be done by Feb.

Should be--but the nature of these things is that even though my job wasn't supposed to last through *last* February, here I am working for the same department because things come up, and there's always something to do. But I trust my boss--if we made an agreement that I could go to half time in January, she'd honor it, and the new girls would be more seasoned by then.

And--Well, the truth is, I could use the money, too. Working full time pays the bills.

I had been considering just applying for a job with the children's department of Simon & Schuster (thanks for all the help, guys). But even though it looks perfect for me (associate editor in a children's department) as I've pondered and prayed I've decided that I need to be in Boston for now, and that I'd like to finish my program if at all possible.

So--what would you do, in my shoes? Give up the job and try for some random part-time work? Postpone another semester (totalling a full year out of school)--and miss a really good publishing class, which may or may not be offered again before I graduate? ... Or give up on the program altogether and try for a New York job like the S&S one?
« Last Edit: August 23, 2004, 09:11:33 PM by norroway »
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2004, 09:26:50 PM »
somethign to bring up is that

A) if they need you so bad, they could always decide to reverse their decision and reimburse your tuition.

or

b) being there part time is better than being there not at all, which is what you've have to do to go to school.

It seems to me they don't understand how important school is for you. Let them know that you wan tot help them out, but THEY need to help you out to. You don't live for the company, but you think the relationship should be mutually beneficial.

Doing that takes some guts though, not sure I could present it that way. But there's an option.

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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2004, 11:06:08 PM »
I agree with Eric, if the company really needs you that badly, then they should be able to help you work this out.

What you shouldn't do is let your supervisor/manager decide for you. He/she will, obviously, place their own interests first. Just because it's what's best for the company, doesn't mean it's best for you.

If they depend on you so much that they can't afford for you to go part-time, then I sure hope they are compensating you for that.
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2004, 11:27:20 PM »
Will getting the degree improve your earning power, or is it simply something you want to do?
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2004, 08:00:13 AM »
It may or may not increase my earning power. Probably only by a little. More than anything it'll be an in within the children's world. But I have a feeling I can make connections in other ways, especially because my main interest is children's fantasy.

So mostly it's something I want to do. And I don't want to spend forever with it hanging over my head--I'd like to be able to get into the area I want to work in and actually work there.

I started the program saying that it really didn't matter to me if I finished it or not--I just wanted to take a few interesting classes and improve myself. But now that I'm halfway through, it seems silly to spend all that money and not have a master's to show for it. Plus, the classes this semester are The History of Children's Publishing (which ends up being a practical course in acquisions editing, in which you make a book proposal package--the teacher is the former publisher and editorial director of the children's trade division at Houghton, a 15 year veteran, and so getting her opinion on a book proposal is a very good thing) and Victorian Children's Literature (half the course is Victorian children's fantasy, so I can study the early fantasists).

And next semester I'd only have 2 classes left--1 required YA class and an Origins of Story class, covering folk and fairy tales and their retellings, which is one of the classes I've always wanted to take in the program. And then I'd be done. So it's an exciting thing for me, but not necessarily something I have to have for my profession.

Come to think of it, though, many of my superiors have a master's, and many of my friends in the trade division have a master's. Perhaps just *having* one will get me hired in the first place.
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2004, 08:24:47 AM »
On the sound of it, you've convinced yourself to do the masters.

It seems like a good idea to go for short term problems in exchange for long term benefit.
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2004, 08:56:02 AM »
Yeah, I've convinced myself to do the master's, but how I'm going to make it happen is the part I haven't figured out yet.
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2004, 06:56:52 PM »
I agree with your decision to finish your masters, especially with only 3 classes left. (You don't have to do a master's thesis for this program?)

Victorian Children's Literature? /me writhes with envy

From the sound of it, you really need to take this class.  I think that if I were in your position I would go part-time. Maybe the department would be receptive to a cost analysis / ROI, and would agree to fund all or part of your tuition.

That being said, if you do work part-time, and things are going to be tough at work, you should be sure not to let yourself spend too much time at work.
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2004, 08:17:13 AM »
4 classes, but yes--very close.

And I was counting on my company paying for it--tuition reimbursement is a benefit my company offers. But they didn't approve it because it's not department-related, even though it's company-related.  :( The dept. foots the bill, so they have the final decision.
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2004, 09:11:54 AM »
like I said, you should explain to your dept that you can't continue if they don't help you with school. Don't be in your face, but gently bring up that you want to stay with the company, but can't if they're going to be in the way of YOUR goals.

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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2004, 11:31:14 AM »
New development: I just heard back from an alternative student loan which I didn't think I would be approved for. I was approved!

So now I have enough money even without having to work part-time. This is such a huge relief. I have to go talk about this with my supervisor today--I still want to work for them part time if they will approve it, but I don't *have* to. Leaves me with a little room to breathe.
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2004, 11:53:00 AM »
yeah, that gives you a great barginning position. congrats! and have fun paying off the loan!  ;)

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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2004, 05:12:08 PM »
No doubt. I do always worry about the loan situation, but it seems like the right thing, and it came through at just the right time.
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2004, 05:13:13 PM »
yes, funny how things work that way, isn't it?  ;)
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