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Re: WOT Help
« Reply #675 on: July 21, 2009, 06:57:05 PM »
hmm, ive always wondered why Fain visits Caemlyn aswell(after the TR) before he goes to the tower and get the dagger again.

Also im abit curious if Slayer killed anyone important when he stepped out of the dream world and killed a sleeping couple. I remember when i read it it seemed he had choosen the wrong couple to go stab, but i dont know.
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Re: WOT Help
« Reply #676 on: July 22, 2009, 12:27:41 AM »
Shadar Logoth is in no way related to the DO because the friends of the dark that lived in Adrihol were far to ambitious and corrupted the power of shadow to fight true shadow...
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Re: WOT Help
« Reply #677 on: July 23, 2009, 01:17:26 PM »
Well its related in the way that it fights the shadow. The two wounds in Rands side fights each other and keep each other at bay. Same thing when Rand cleansed the male true source, he battled the taint vs shadar logoth and cleansed it.
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Re: WOT Help
« Reply #678 on: July 23, 2009, 08:19:32 PM »
Quote from: Braus on July 21, 2009, 06:57:05 PM
hmm, ive always wondered why Fain visits Caemlyn aswell(after the TR) before he goes to the tower and get the dagger again.

Also im abit curious if Slayer killed anyone important when he stepped out of the dream world and killed a sleeping couple. I remember when i read it it seemed he had choosen the wrong couple to go stab, but i dont know.

Fain visits Caemlyn chasing Rand/Mat (I don't recall any other time). With the people that he killed he was actually aiming for his "Nephew & the wench". (Nephew = Rand; Wench = Min). I thought the POV in his head basically said they were nobody, just in wrong place at wrong time.
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Re: WOT Help
« Reply #679 on: July 23, 2009, 11:45:17 PM »
Slayer did kill some of the BA in the Tear that the Wondergirls had locked up.
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Re: WOT Help
« Reply #680 on: July 24, 2009, 01:50:40 AM »
Quote from: Champion Kaz on July 22, 2009, 12:27:41 AM
Shadar Logoth is in no way related to the DO because the friends of the dark that lived in Adrihol were far to ambitious and corrupted the power of shadow to fight true shadow...

I like to think of it as:

DO = Lawful Evil (hierarchy, order, commands given and obeyed, everyone with a plan)

SL = Chaotic Evil (ambition, greed, paranoia, selfishness)


hmmm..... I wonder how the rest of the factions would go if you try to box it off in the DnD alignment grid?
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Re: WOT Help
« Reply #681 on: July 25, 2009, 04:07:35 AM »
That's freaky...to simplify matters like that is to invite mr. jordan's ghost to haunt you...but hey you have company over your midnight tea time! ::)
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Re: WOT Help
« Reply #682 on: September 08, 2009, 05:43:40 PM »

Quote from: JoeC on June 29, 2009, 10:54:27 PM
- Thom finally let Mat read his letter from Moiraine and HOLY CRAP!!! She's alive!! I guess she's prisoner (?) to the Finn's and only Thom, Mat, and one other person (I think it might be Noal) can save her but only if they themselves go. Otherwise she will die. This had my heart racing. I'd LOVE to have Moiraine back in the story. I've wanted to see her reaction to certain events for a long time since she "died." I want to see her meet Cadsuane. I want to see her reaction the the cleansing of saidin. What she thinks of Egwene as Amyrlin seat. Potential Thom/Moiraine romance?? So many things!!! I'd love to see other Aes Sedai's reactions to her being alive, as she is now legendary among Aes Sedai for killing TWO Forsaken herself. This is one plot thread I will eagerly be awaiting.

Actually Moraine and Cadsuane have already met and it wasn't a pleasant meeting. Moraine suspects that Cadsuane may be a darkfriend. This all happened in the prequel novel A New Spring.

Now, since we've read Cadsaune's point of view we know she isn't a darkfriend, but Moraine doesn't. I don't think she'll like how close she's gotten to Rand.
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Re: WOT Help
« Reply #683 on: September 09, 2009, 04:49:09 AM »
Wasn't this thread killed?
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Re: WOT Help
« Reply #684 on: September 09, 2009, 11:54:40 PM »
It seems it has been resurrected ... maybe somebody corrected it's aeon and brought it back to life.
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Re: WOT Help
« Reply #685 on: September 10, 2009, 11:04:32 PM »
Well we are all still waiting for JoeC's impressions of New Spring....
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Re: WOT Help
« Reply #686 on: September 21, 2009, 11:22:18 PM »
Quote from: IngtarWasFramed on September 10, 2009, 11:04:32 PM
Well we are all still waiting for JoeC's impressions of New Spring....

LOL I'll have to get on that soon. I'm read The Lost Symbol by Dan Brown right now. Then it may be Salvatore's new Drizzt book after. Don't worry, I still do frequent these boards and I'm happy about how my thread has provoked discussion.
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Re: WOT Help
« Reply #687 on: September 23, 2009, 11:30:15 PM »
I'm doing my own reread ... though not at as fast a pace as I ought to.

Went through New Spring, Eye, and am now about halfway through Great Hunt.

I enjoyed new Spring and Eye a fair amount. Though I liked Great Hunt in the past, I am having a harder time staying interested in parts.

As I interact with some of these characters again, questions come to mind.

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I know that Verin is Black Ajah ... but am I the only one who gets the oddest feeling that she's almost more of a double agent? That she'll pay a heavy price for the way she has chosen to fight, but that she is really on the side of the light?

[edit]I have done some poking around on the internet. I can't remember exactly what convinced me that Verin is Black Ajah, but I am so convinced. As noted above, I somehow believe she is Black Ajah, -and- on the side of the light. But looking at the thoughts on the internet, I somehow suspect I will remain completely alone in this thought.[/edit]








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Re: WOT Help
« Reply #688 on: September 24, 2009, 01:16:45 AM »
Well she does lie in tGH. She tells Rand, "Moiraine sent me," which Moiraine later denies. But there are lots of theories on this. And I'm pretty sure that there's a good legitimate reason why Verin can't be a Darkfriend, but I can't remember what it is. I do like your idea of her being a double agent, though. That would be pretty cool.
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Re: WOT Help
« Reply #689 on: September 24, 2009, 03:19:06 AM »
I think Verin is on the good side and just used clever and ambiguous wording or stretching of the truth for that oft-quoted "lie".  "Moiraine (and what I learned from her) caused me to come" is, I believe, a technically correct possible meaning of the phrase "Moiraine sent me", and is completely true.  It's not her fault everyone interpreted it differently from how she meant it. ::)
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