The Comprehensive Kandra Thread

[Peter Ahlstrom]

It's the first book Brandon wrote using the Mistborn magic system idea. It didn't turn out very well, though, so Brandon cannibalized it for Mistborn: The Final Empire. (Final Empire Prime is another book that Brandon cannibalized too. He also cannibalized part of Mythwalker and part of Aether of Night to make the Mistborn trilogy. Another part of Mythwalker was cannibalized into Warbreaker, and another part of Aether of Night was cannibalized into The Liar of Partinel, the first new Dragonsteel book.)

The only character from the original Mistborn Prime book who makes it into the current series is OreSeur (spelled Oresoor in the original).

You get it by asking Brandon for it.

[GreenMonsta]

Well thank you Mr. Ook. I guess that wealth of knowlage comes in handy from time to time.

[Inkthinker]

For instance, some of us suspect that kandra are related to hemalurgy because they're related to koloss, which have nails in their bodies. 

Wait... koloss have nails? I don't think that's right, is it? Steel Inquisitors have nails.

I've just been assuming that koloss and kandra are the results of biological experiments performed by the Lord Ruler in his early days. I don't see any hemalurgy references to either koloss or kandra offhand...

[Andrew the Great]

In WoA, I don't remember the exact page, but toward the end, one of the main characters is discussing how the koloss all have nails in their bodies. We were discussing that this may be hemalurgy related a while back. But Koloss definitely have nails.

[Chaos]

For instance, some of us suspect that kandra are related to hemalurgy because they're related to koloss, which have nails in their bodies. 

Wait... koloss have nails? I don't think that's right, is it? Steel Inquisitors have nails.

I've just been assuming that koloss and kandra are the results of biological experiments performed by the Lord Ruler in his early days. I don't see any hemalurgy references to either koloss or kandra offhand...

They do. It's one of those elusive references you only see once, but they definitely have nails.

Hey, Andrew, did that particular thing make it into the Hemalurgy Reference Thread, or did it die too prematurely for that?

The problem of comprehensive threads is that it can be difficult to discuss a given aspect of the book without discussing other aspects.  For instance, some of us suspect that kandra are related to hemalurgy because they're related to koloss, which have nails in their bodies.  So in which comprehensive thread should that theory be discussed?  (Hypothetically speaking; I actually have no more thoughts than the above to discuss on that particular theory.)

Well, the Hemalurgy thread gets off topic all the time. It could go in whatever topic people post it in, though I believe that the relationship with koloss, kandra, and Hemalurgy was mentioned in that thread already, just not extensively talked about.

[Qarlin]

Still, it would be nice to have a reference for the nail bit.

I imagine Ten Soon had to eat Oreseur. Eww. But that's the only way I could think of a kandra killing another kandra without the mess of Acid.

[GreenMonsta]

The whole thing about Ten Soon and Ore Seur is that Kandra only eat bodies as far as we know. They don't eat alive bodies they eat dead ones. Also that would be the only way to get the same wolfhound body that Ore Seur had. So I don't know if they do eat living Kandra bodies or if Ten Soon killed Ore Seur and then ate the body.

[Miyabi]

Still, it would be nice to have a reference for the nail bit.

I imagine Ten Soon had to eat Oreseur. Eww. But that's the only way I could think of a kandra killing another kandra without the mess of Acid.

As far as the nails, it's only like one line where Sazed is sitting at his desk and as a passing thought mentions them being on his desk.  I'm inclined to think that MAYBE this is Atium and where it has all been hidden.  Then they were shaped like nails in order to hide them.

I also don't think that OreSeur was killed, just sent home.  IF I remember correctly Zane said "Replace OreSeur" not kill him. 

[Peter Ahlstrom]

It's only humans that they don't kill. How did OreSeur get the wolfhound body?

[GreenMonsta]

Exactly, he would have had to eat it to form it correctly. Also I still don't get how he would have sent him home. Give a reason why Ore Suer would listen and break his contract even though a Kandra lives for their contract. Either way I think Tensoon ate Ore Suer either dead or alive.

[Miyabi]

I guess I just want OreSeur to be alive.   I miss him.

[Chaos]

Hey, I think it was cool that TenSoon betrayed Zane just because he liked Vin. It makes him seem much more human--despite being inhuman .

[GreenMonsta]

I agree, the whole "we live to uphold the contact" thing was to mechanical. Cold almost. It really made Ten Soon a more likable charater. Not only because he saved Vin but just because he broke contract.

[Reaves]

Exactly, he would have had to eat it to form it correctly. Also I still don't get how he would have sent him home. Give a reason why Ore Suer would listen and break his contract even though a Kandra lives for their contract. Either way I think Tensoon ate Ore Suer either dead or alive.

I guess that would make him a cannibal   rather disgusting Although i guess the stomach acid would do the job. Does anyone know what kandra eat? or if they do?

[Miyabi]

TenSoon probably had experience making Wolfhounds before.  He probably just stole the skeleton from OreSeur and used it.