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Re: I WANNA!!! . . . .
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2008, 04:43:23 AM »
You're not the only linguistics expert...

Anyway, it's more a cant or argot than a dialect.
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Re: I WANNA!!! . . . .
« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2008, 04:55:37 AM »
Suddenly feels dumb because I want to minor in linguistics and I don't know what those words mean.
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« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2008, 07:08:23 AM »
Actually, Sanderson has posted a few translations in the annotations of Mistborn.
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Re: I WANNA!!! . . . .
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2008, 04:00:43 PM »
You're not the only linguistics expert...

Anyway, it's more a cant or argot than a dialect.

I was being facetious, I'm not actually a linguistic expert at all, though I once dreamed of being one.  But for the rest of you who are interested in linguistics, don't you get annoyed with the way Spook talks?  Doesn't it offend all your morphological and syntactical instincts?

(By the way, I would argue that "dialect" actually is a better term than "cant" or "argot", since the differences in speech are supposedly regional rather than being the specialized terms of a particular trade or a way of speaking in certain situations.)
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Re: I WANNA!!! . . . .
« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2008, 08:10:18 PM »
But it seems highly unlikely to have developed naturally, so it probably started as a cant or cryptolect, to quote the Wikipedia rhyming slang article, "developed intentionally to confuse non-locals."

Brandon based the concept of Spook's language, if not the exact execution, on the posts of TWG forum member Gemm.
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Re: I WANNA!!! . . . .
« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2008, 08:17:14 PM »
Do we have links for these posts (says the guy who never links anything).
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« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2008, 08:30:32 PM »
You're not the only linguistics expert...

Anyway, it's more a cant or argot than a dialect.

Ookla, has everything you've said always sounded like you were on the verge of revealing some great, three-book secret? Or is that an acquired trait?


(I can see it now. . . .)
Ookla's Spouse: "Honey, could you make a trip to the store? I'd like some oranges to put in this salad."
Ookla: "Oranges aren't the only things you find in stores, you know."
Ookla's Spouse: "We're also running out of milk, you should probably pick up a gallon while you're there."
Ookla: "Milk isn't the only thing we're running out of."
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Re: I WANNA!!! . . . .
« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2008, 08:53:10 PM »
Ookla's Spouse: oh, I've finally figured out how to cook this cake without sugar so it still tastes good!
Ookla: You just want to think you've got that one figured out...

I agree. I think it must be an acquired trait, but I don't know, maybe he's had it since birth.
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Re: I WANNA!!! . . . .
« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2008, 09:17:12 PM »
Ookla's spouse: So this cake I am making for your mother's birthday, I was thinking white cake because I have a wonderful recipe but also thinking about making chocolate because she raved about the piece she had at Applebee's that one time.
Ookla: This makes me laugh, when you finish making the cake let me know and I'll share it with you.
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« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2008, 10:52:50 PM »
Ookla: What you made isn't actually a cake, it's more of a bread.
Mrs. Mok: Well, I used baking powder and not yeast.
Ookla: Ah, but what you thought was baking powder actually started out as yeast, when it was first invented.
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« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2008, 11:04:37 PM »
Ookla: It's a mistake to draw any conclusions based on one piece of cake. Yes, some things turn out the same, but more things don't.
(After second piece)
Ookla: This cake is horrible.  Just kidding (Or am I?)

Sorry mine doesn't have the characteristic ... in it, but you know.  Good work you guys, these made me laugh.
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Re: I WANNA!!! . . . .
« Reply #26 on: August 21, 2008, 02:25:17 AM »
I actually have a cake recipe without sugar that I make for Ookla's birthday...but he doesn't go to the store very often.

Umm... I don't know what your problem is with the way he talks.  I understand him perfectly.  His obfuscations are really just more of a cant or argot -- meant to confuse non locals... ;)


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Re: I WANNA!!! . . . .
« Reply #27 on: August 21, 2008, 02:52:39 AM »
WE understand him, it just seems that everything he types here makes it sound like he's hiding something or knows more than what he's letting on (which he usually does).
His obfuscations are really just more of a cant or argot -- meant to confuse non locals... ;)
That is hilarious.  A round of applause for Mrs. Mok!
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« Reply #28 on: August 21, 2008, 04:42:40 AM »
*claps loudly and laughs hysterically*

Yeah, we know what he means, it's just that he always says stuff that's meant to either confuse, mislead, redirect, help, encourage, or annoy us. Hence, we can't figure out when he's doing one and when he's doing another. But where would we be in our speculation without him?
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« Reply #29 on: August 21, 2008, 03:37:19 PM »
*joins in the applause for Mrs. Mok, not just for her comment but for the incredible feat of understanding Ookla perfectly*

We certainly can't do without Ookla, he knows too much about everything.  Not only is he an alpha reader, but he seems to be an expert on everything from astronomy to linguistics.  He has all the answers.  Of course, that's also why he frustrates us sometimes - in comparison, we all feel like ignoramuses.
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