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One reason TO hate Italy.
« on: March 09, 2005, 10:23:31 AM »
Inspired partially by the reason not to hate France, let's look at Italy's actions lately.

Recently, the US took a lot of heat rfor firing on a civilian car that held a recently freed hostage of Italian nationality and journalistic occupation, injuring the journalist and killing one of her escorts.

Y'know, never mind that they were unannounced, in a hostile area on a controlled road, didn't identify themselves, and according to WMAL news radio tried to run a barricade.

Turns out that Italy negotiated the release of this prisoner secretly, purposefully keeping the US in the dark. So basically, it wasn't a lack of communications in the US armed forces, it was her own damn government's fault for being idiots. You'd think they'd have half a brain enough to tell us what was happening... at least AFTER the deal was struck. But no, we'll risk being shot out and then blame the stupid yanks.

Italian wankers. This really pisses me off. I mean, you all know my feelings on being there, but in this case, what the heck else were the soldiers supposed to do? I'd have blown up the car too. Stupid Italians just had no clue how to do something like this. But what can you expect from a country that would elect Musellini

{interesting note: the morning after the car was fired on Washington Post (more middle-of-the-road but still liberal paper) and the Washington Times (definitely a conservative paper) both reported the incident. Y'know, it seems pretty shameful when you only know that US troops shot at an ally civilian. But the next day, when it comes out that Italy was withholding important info, the Times ran the story as a front-page headline. The Post didn't even mention the communication breakdown. Don't anyone ever tell me that journalism is on the whole impartial. Because you'd be WRONG.}

Ok, and here's the clincher. Yesterday WMAL reported a little bit more. Apparently this stupid, idiotic journalist is trying to claim that the US did it on purpose because we disagree with the negotiating for hostage release thing. Right. Because, y'know, she has so much evidence for this. Want to know why Europe hates the US? Not because we're louts or braggarts of chaw-bacon hick hillbillies. It's because governments and media in places like Italy are full of RETARDED BIGGOTS who couldn't find their ass with both hands after someone had just rammed a 10 foot pole into it.

Sorry, it gets my goat. Anti-US sentiment is based on cowardice and ignorance, not our policies or attitudes. Things like this make me want to go ahead and say "yeah, just blow them all up. In a hundred years or so it'll be habitable and we'll colonize it all."

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Re: One reason TO hate Italy.
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2005, 11:19:11 AM »
I got linked to this on the net. I loved the way the woman (who, guess what, runs a left wing paper) said, 'and it is important that this sort of information gets passed to the americans, by my government, so it is the americans fault.' Basically she assumed that it was the US fault because her own government MUST have passed the information along.

Oh and, 'One of the terrorists told me just before my release, 'Be careful, the americans will not take kindly to you''. Well, duh. He's a friggin arab terrorist. Not the most impartial chap y'know.
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Re: One reason TO hate Italy.
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2005, 11:27:31 AM »
Oh yeah, and there is a EU embargo on selling weapons to China, which some countries want to lift but the USA tells them not to. The EU loves to maintain world peace, aye.
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Re: One reason TO hate Italy.
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2005, 12:02:23 PM »
oh, who WOULDN'T trust a man who is illegally holding you prisoner and making threats against your life and your nation and rebelling violently? I mean, even boy scouts aren't more trustworthy than that.

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Re: One reason TO hate Italy.
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2005, 02:02:30 PM »
Must have been Stockholm Syndrome.
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Re: One reason TO hate Italy.
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2005, 03:05:59 PM »
the whole debate would have been over if they had cameras like cops do recording the daily stops...

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Re: One reason TO hate Italy.
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2005, 03:29:48 PM »
You know what I hate about Italy?  Those Italian Cream Sodas from the Spaghetti Factory.  Yuck.
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Re: One reason TO hate Italy.
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2005, 03:50:53 PM »
also: Mario Brothers.

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Re: One reason TO hate Italy.
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2005, 04:49:54 PM »
Ok, I completely agree with the hate of Italy. But let's leave the Mario Brothers out of this. Excellent games.
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Re: One reason TO hate Italy.
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2005, 05:23:19 PM »
ooooh... how I hates them...

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Re: One reason TO hate Italy.
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2005, 06:30:22 PM »
there are only two good things about italy: spagetti and pizza.  Other than that, Italy can kiss my butt.
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Re: One reason TO hate Italy.
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2005, 09:04:03 PM »
" Sorry, it gets my goat. Anti-US sentiment is based on cowardice and ignorance, not our policies or attitudes."

And the fact that americans have attitudes like that is why I hate americans.
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Re: One reason TO hate Italy.
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2005, 10:24:40 PM »
So you hate Americans cause Americans hate people who hate them?
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Re: One reason TO hate Italy.
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2005, 10:27:16 PM »
So you hate Americans because they have a certain attitude?

Is what SE (I think you were quoting SE...) expressed false?
If so, what is anti-american sentiment based on in your opinion?

If it's true, what's wrong with Americans having that attitude?
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Re: One reason TO hate Italy.
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2005, 10:27:49 PM »
I'm too wrapped up in my own life and problems to worry about hating people who might or might not hate me for being an American.

But then I know some people hate Americans for not caring about the rest of the world.  

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