Harry Potter

[Fellfrosch]

Like I said, there's plenty of holes in my theory. And while it is true that most of what we're discussing was probably not intentionally included in the book, that's only relevant to a certain point. From an archetypal point of view, you can't talk about something without referencing things you don't intend to reference. A garden is a tamed and controlled portion of nature whether the author wanted to deal with that aspect or not.

So yeah, you're right, but that doesn't mean that our discussion is useless.

[Mad Dr Jeffe]

is it controlled or symbiotic?
granted cutting back a garden and pulling weeds may seem controlling, but a well tilled garden is also a very sybiotic affair...
Why symbiotic you ask, well the garden plants get the best care any vegatable could ask for, food, water (even when its dry out) and good soil. The tender gets serenity, a sense of accomplishment and something beautiful to look at.

[Mad Dr Jeffe]

You know if she killed off Dumbledor the movie folks would have a little easier time of it...

[Lieutenant Kije]

They'd still have to deal with books three and four even if she did.  I'm sure Ian McKellan will do a fine job and moviegoers will have no trouble adjusting.  They're already used to him as a wizard from LotR.  (Ian McKellan is who they got to replace Richard Harris, right?)

[Fellfrosch]

No, but that rumor is going around. Look it up on imdb--I can never remember the guy's name.

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

I didn't mean to say it was useless. I just don't find it as convincing as I'd like. I think she chose a garden to represent a vitalizing force, and the relative tameness/wildness is less important than the life itself. Sybiosis, as Jeffe points out seems more constructive.

[stacer]

Well, today's the day. Did anyone bother to go to a bookstore at midnight? I'm off to go get mine now.

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

With book 4, my father and I happened to be shopping at the Base Exchange the day it came out. There were stacks everywhere of them. We just grabbed a copy with all the other stuff we got. It was hard to feel like there was a need for ANYONE to stand in line for this book this time. I'll get a copy. When my mom finishes hers, probably.

[42]

My parents and my sister both ordered copies. I'll probably grap my sister's copy when she leaves for Russia.