24 (first season, first 4 hours).... spoilers

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

"don't remember the amnesia" is a terribly funny thing to say.
At the end of the 3pm hour, Bauer's daughter and wife are in a car running from a bad guy (who have infiltrated their safe house). They hide on a small dirt road, and the guy passes. Mom gets out for inexplicable reason. Car falls down mountain and blows up. mom faints. Mom wakes out and tells helpful passer by she can't remember her name. Once she's gone, daughter wakes up, having been thrown from the car before it blows up.

Amnesia may be brought on by stress and trauma like this, BUT, it's got such a bad rep they should have recognized, and it really is only used in Looney Toons and Days of our Lives.

[stacer]

Ah, yes, I remember now. I thought it was pretty dopey too.

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

well, I finished it over the weekend. I liked it. I'm not sure which part EUOL thought was as the amnesia. I suppose it could be who the mole was, I certainly figure out how she did all the helping early on if she knew so much, but I wasn't so put off that I couldn't deal with it, though I'd have to see the first part again to decide how reasonable it was. True, it wasn't a big surprise (like it was for my wife, who started watching it with me -- and couldn't stop). I guess I figured she lost her job for helping Jack and went over the edge though, instead of being bad the whole time. Thoughts?

I need to get a copy of season 2 so I can catch up.

[Tage]

Well, the problem is, Nina was supposed to have been bad the whole time. But her character showed NO signs of it until right when they needed her to. Ady and Nate (from TLE) watched it a second time through and said there was absolutely no indication of Nina being a bad apple.

But even though it felt dumb in season 1, it led to some great scenes in season 2.

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

well, I guess so. But it's hardly as cheesy as the amnesia thing.

[EUOL]

Not as cheesy, true.  You have a good argument for the amnesia being a larger problem.  Still, the Nina thing was such a fundamental change in the way the story worked that I thought it should have been handled better.  It was supposed to be an Ender's Game ending, one where you say 'ah, so that's why x and y happened.  It all makes sense now.'  Instead it was more a 'What?  No, that doesn't make sense.  What about x and y?'

However, it was still very good.  I think I actually liked Season Two a bit better, but that might just be because it lacked serious problems (other than Kim...)

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

Ok, yeah, but good as a freshman outing. I'm just not thinking about it so I don't have a problem. LA LA LA LA LA! I can't HEAR you!
(someone get me season 2)

[EUOL]

Well, Tage will be in DC in a few weeks, and he owns season two....

A little begging might get a loan--but you'd have to watch the entire season in like five days.

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

I don't think I can pull that off
But I have already seen eps 1-4, adn my wife says her sister recorded eps 19-24, so I'd only need 14 hours, and that's doable in 5 days if I stay up late a lot

[EUOL]

Talk to Tage.  I only pointed out the possibility; he's the ones with the DVD's.

[Tage]

Probably not going to happen, since the logistics would be difficult.

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

feh, I will have to devour your soul then.

[stacer]

It's STILL snowing, and they canceled our annual Christmas gala dance tonight, and even canceled church tomorrow. So tonight we're all cozy and warm inside with smelly candles and hot chocolate and we're watching season 1 of 24. Now that I'm watching it for a second time, I think there are clues that make me wonder about Nina all the way through--how she left the safehouse early, how disappointed she acted when she found out that Jack's family was rescued safely from the kidnappers, etc. Not strong, but tiny little clues.

[fuzzyoctopus]

Hate Nina.  Hate hate hate kill kill kill.

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

Yeah, I finally watched another disc
so I'm halfway through season 2 now

couple of thoughts: this one is much more predictable. I knew from the time she showed up that the president's ex-wife was evil, and I had an inkling of just how evil. I was pretty sure about several other things as well, like how Jack Bauer didn't really have the kids killed. So I haven't run into any surprises (well, it still wasn't really a surprise, but exactly who was evil with the Warner family I wasn't positive about, but still)

Despite that, it's MUCH MUCH more interesting psychologically than the first one. The President making decisions, every 15 minutes of one versus the many, how to function with a known enemy in your cabinet. what Jack has to do. I'm liking it

Oh, and no amnesia so far. it is pleasing.