Remakes and the darkness

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Well, there has to be something after post-modernism.

[JP Dogberry]

Pan-Modernism, and we're nowhere near it yet. Panmodernism will be the final step to transhumanism - it will occur when a significant portion of people have moved to posthumanity, and will be the result of the rift between the human and the posthuman. By the time Panmodernism is over, no people will be recognisable as Human, unless some cult of purists or such survives. Unlikey, new sapient species tend to eradicate the old.

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

No, i'm pretty sure that there will be a change in artistic goals and styles to a different general mode before we all mutate into something not currently recognizable as human.

[Entsuropi]

/me is currently not recognizable as human

[The Jade Knight]

Stacer, Saint E got the sense I was intending.  Sorry for the ambiguity.

[Master Gopher]

I'm of the (somewhat contentious) opinion that there are no new stories under the sun, only good or bad retellings of the ones we have.

There is nothing new under the sun, it has all been said and done before"
- Sherlock Holmes

I agree entirely, there are basic themes of story that we simply repeat with new narratives. Shakespeare did indeed base huge chunks of material on traditional legneds, poems, or history (e.g. large lumps of Julis Caesar comes almost straight from Plutarch, it's actually rather weird to be reading Plutarch and realise you are reading something you previously appreciated as literature in an english class in one of your history textbooks...)

Oh, and apparently there are only seven storylines. I shall have to ask my mother about that, I always forget whose theory it is. But I accept the idea in a cursory, uninformed way.

[Entsuropi]

I feel too many people strive to water things down to a simplified level. Sure, we could say all stories are the same. But by the same logic, all humans are the same. Which is not correct, obviously. It's similar to the 'co-incidences' game where you say... well, Lincoln and JFK died 100 years apart... they both were assassinated... and so on. It works, but only because your willfully ignoring the parts that do not fit into your hypothesis.

It also smacks of a desire to not have anything new, to just settle down with what you have and stick with them.

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

it really smacks of trying to simplify things to encompass everything into your understandign, instead of broadening your undertsanding to grasp it all.

Now, there are patterns, don't get me wrong. I think that Campbell had a number of things wrong, but often when you get these limited number of stories, some elements of some stories are made far more metaphorical than is reasonable, so they're forced into the pattern.

[fuzzyoctopus]

I don't know if anyone other than me has watched the whole season of the new Doctor Who, (and enough of the old series to compare) but if so I'd like to discuss it in light of this thread.