KoTOR 2

[Spriggan]

Ha I was right, Knights of the old Republic 2 is being developed by ex-Black Isle people.  http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/05/04/news_6095387.html

[Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock]

ugh, why?

[Spriggan]

Becasue Bioware rarely makes sequals.  They all most allwayse toss them to Black Isle.

It's also LucasArts call since it's there lincence to give out, but I wouldn't be suprised if the reason Obsidion has it is becasue of BioWare.

[Onion of Death]

No, they should be working on Fallout 3!!! Arghh...

[Spriggan]

They can't unless Interpay contracts them to do so, Black Isle didn't own the rights to the fallout series, Interplay does.  Interplay is expected to announce who the developer for Fallout 3 is at E3, if there's no announcement then the project is more the likely dead.  But I doubt Obsidion will get it since the bad blood between them (all haveing been fired by Interplay) and Interplay.  I am a little worried about this since the BlackIsle people haven't made a great game (there's been some decent/good games) since Baldurs gate 2 and the first Icewind Dale.  The reason Interplay canned them is that LeonHeart was such a bad game, and there had been a lot of time and money put into it.

[Onion of Death]

I agree that Lionheart was awful. But it was because development was rushed, and they couldn't add in the Fallout style turn based combat. I thought Icewind Dale II was good.

[Fellfrosch]

I thought that Lionheart was Reflexive, not Black Isle. Are they the same?

[Spriggan]

No LionHeart was a Black Isle game that they had Reflexive develop but it was through BI that it was made and they (BI) took  the blunt of the blame from Interplay for the games poor performance wheither they deserved it or not.

But according to Tycho these are some of the original Black Isle people, some who worked on Planescape.

[Spriggan]

Bioware announced it's new game http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/05/12/news_6097833.html, and it apperent the roumors were true.  Wich is Bioware dosen't want to develop games for other peoples settings.  Which is probaly the main reason why they're not doing KoTOR 2 or NWN 2.

[Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock]

Sooo, essentially Dragon Age is NWN 2/BG 3?

[Spriggan]

I guess you could say they are in spirit.

[Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock]

"Besides boasting that it would have the "tantalizing blend of the exploration and combat of Baldur’s Gate" and "the multi-player gameplay and community support of Neverwinter Nights," BioWare said Dragon Age will have separate multiplayer and single-player campaigns. As with other BioWare RPGs, gameplay will be party-based in both modes. But BioWare also said players can "participate in massive battles," meaning the game's tactical combat may be on a larger scale than most RPGs."

MMmm, that reeks of "we aren't making sequels to these games, but instead are going to make them but call them by a different name."

[Spriggan]

Ya, but I know Bioware had lots of problems with Wizards when it came to developing NWN and other games.  I'm frankly surprised with how long it took Bioware to make their own settings, no company likes to make games for others and I'm glad they did it.  It shows a matureaty in the game company, they don;t need to ride off of others anymore and I have a feeling Bioware's games will be nothing but better becasue of this.

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

the link Sprig posted says it will have a new engine. That probably means new mechanics as well. Hardly a sequel.

[Spriggan]

I think what Gemm is saying is that instead of doing a sequal they're doing this which has a lot of the same concepts.  And Bioware couldn't use the same system even if they watned to without getting Wizards permission which is what they're trying to get away from.