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Re: King Arthur
« Reply #30 on: April 06, 2004, 09:30:55 AM »
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what most historians now beleave
isn't implying though, its flat out stating the information as a fact.
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Re: King Arthur
« Reply #31 on: April 06, 2004, 09:36:58 AM »
to me that is the same as implying Jeffe, that can be either flat out stating the facts or meerly suggesting such.  But you should talk, you're worse then I am when it comes to this.
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Re: King Arthur
« Reply #32 on: April 06, 2004, 09:45:23 AM »
eh. I think that Spriggan and I are at an accord. We both understand each other now and I think everyone else understands us. I see no need to continue arguing about that.

I would like to know if Rose has any other questions or concerns though.

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Re: King Arthur
« Reply #33 on: April 06, 2004, 09:46:51 AM »
(because I know EUOL wants to say it) What cord?  A sharp or C flat?
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Re: King Arthur
« Reply #34 on: April 06, 2004, 10:05:27 AM »
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« Reply #35 on: April 06, 2004, 02:02:01 PM »
I guess the difference Sprig is that I dont use the word implied as lightly as you do.
However my impression of the historical Arthur differs greatly from yours, given the works I've read.  The General consensis is that there isn't one. Its like how Camelot continually roams around the whole of Britain and Wales.

The waters get considerable more muddy when you bring the new attempts to Celtise or Romanize Arthur.  
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Re: King Arthur
« Reply #36 on: April 06, 2004, 06:34:07 PM »
 :-/ I must admit that I am a bit bewildered by your replies. I guess what concerns me is my ability to make up a past for Merlin and the lady of the lake for my short story that I am working on. If both of the pasts of these two figures are obscure in the legends then that's perfect. Do either of them have other names that I should know about before I begin writing or any other pertinent information? Thanks for taking the time to adress my questions and all the information that you gave back. If I can ever return the favor, horses, not King Arthur are my speciality. Gandalf rode an Andalusian in TLOTR Movie. Anyways, Thanks again for your time.

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Re: King Arthur
« Reply #37 on: April 06, 2004, 07:45:32 PM »
Well, to return the favor you could always register permanently and become a much-needed female presense on the board.
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Re: King Arthur
« Reply #38 on: April 06, 2004, 07:47:23 PM »
your supposed to make that a threat...
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Re: King Arthur
« Reply #39 on: April 06, 2004, 09:41:55 PM »
yes, they're both pretty vague in background... or at lease inconsistent in the presentations. So you can take a lot of liberties without offending diehard enthusiasts.

Merlin is often combined with Taliesin or Myrddin. You could use those. "Merlin Taliesin" is not uncommon.

The Lady of the Lake is often identivied as Viviane, Eviene, Niviene, Nimue, or even Nina (only in Wordsworth).

If you're looking for any relationship they had, Nimue (as a fairy) and Merlin are often cast as lovers, ending tragically as Nimue entombs Merlin in either a tree or in stone. (Perhaps she didn't like him as much as he thought)

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Re: King Arthur
« Reply #40 on: April 07, 2004, 12:30:23 AM »
Thanks for the invitation but I don't know if I am ready to play with the big dogs--er, I mean dragons. Thanks for all the easeful information about Merlin and Arthur.