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The overall changes from the first draft of Way of Kings definitely seem to be massive - Bridge 4, Kaladin as a slave, all that did not exist either. I think I also read somewhere that the world looked little like current Roshar...

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Nature of Shardblades? (Spoilers)
« on: January 24, 2011, 06:03:39 PM »
Hm, but the Radiants fight against the forces of odium. Also shardblades seem somewhat related to the heralds' honorblades, and the heralds are definitely not on odium's side. At least, they weren't when they still used those blades...  ::)

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Brandon Sanderson / Nature of Shardblades? (Spoilers)
« on: January 24, 2011, 01:55:31 PM »
This is heavily based on an older thread about the decryption of Navani's sketches, found here: http://www.timewastersguide.com/forum/index.php?topic=7882.0

Great thread, by the way. In any case, that thread gives a lot of information about fabrials, including that they are powered by stormlight, and that they contain trapped spren. That lead to the question if maybe shardplate is a form of fabrial - including a trapped spren. It does regrow, so it definitely is special.

But shardplate is still ordinary compared to shardblades, which can appear and disappear into mist. Also, Syl does not like shardblades at all. But if fabrials contain trapped spren, what could be worse than that? Some people discussed shardplates also containing a trapped spren, but maybe that's still not far enough?

What if a shardblade is a type of spren?

Their appearing and disappearing, their different effect on living and dead matter show that they are very unique. There are some inanimate spren I think (one type was described as being like snow flakes). The Radiants had shardblades, but maybe they got these spren with the acceptance of the spren (like Kaladin acquired Syl). What if the remaining shardblades are sort of enslaved (or "lobotomized" in some way)?That could be why just anyone can use them. That would then definitely be revolting to Syl. And since there are so many different types of spren, it could well be that the blades are among them. That would also explain why the spren-powered fabrial of the half-shards can stop them...

Plate may be similar, but the shardplates of old exhibit different properties - the helmets of the Knights Radiant from the visions appear and reappear like they are being summoned and released just like shardblades. Modern shardplate does not do that - maybe the spren is dead, which would make it less revolting. The plate still regrows though, so there is something there... Syl never said that shardplate is ok, though - maybe Dalinar was just half as bad as before when he gave up the blade, which from her point of view would still be better than both plate and blade. Since the only "feels" this, she doesn't really know what's going on, either.

Anyone have some input on this theory?

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Parshendi (WoK spoilers)
« on: January 23, 2011, 09:38:43 AM »
Parshendi are not dozens of feet tall, and the armor is not hard as rock either, though. Remember that we still have no solid evidence that Jasnah is actually right. What is described in the quote from the Prelude above sounds like a thunderclast.

This discussion lead me to a new idea about the voidbringers: The other beings described to have rock-like skin, or shells, are the chulls! Chasmfiends, too, but chulls are also described as having rock-like shells, plus red claws and legs. This may be a little far out, but most of the prophecies could also fit chulls... Music when they kill does finger the Parshendi though.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: WoK: Kaladin and Syl *Spoilers*
« on: January 22, 2011, 02:24:31 PM »
we're meant to THINK he's dead, but I'm pretty sure the Herald's Blades work differently then regular Shardblades.
from the prelude, talking about the swords in the ring, "if their masters had died, the Blades would have vanished."

So I think he didn't actually die, he's just unconscious.

Exactly, the prelude is pretty clear on this. The blade remaining is actually proof that he is still alive. Why these blades are the exact opposite of normal Shardblades in that regard is an interesting question, but we don't have anything to go on for now.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Did the Lord Ruler ... ? (Spoilers)
« on: January 21, 2011, 04:45:06 PM »
Also, the metal has to pierce the body for it to have an effect.  It probably has to connect to blood for Ruin to get access to the mind.  Then Allomantically ingested metals would not have this effect.

Neither would an earring, though. That does pierce, but only touches skin.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Did the Lord Ruler ... ? (Spoilers)
« on: January 21, 2011, 03:23:10 PM »
Still not sure how it works, but I found this: http://www.timewastersguide.com/forum/index.php?topic=6655.msg129157#msg129157


It's a question about exactly this, and the answer from Brandon is: His arm bracers, which pierced his skin, were his spikes.

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That could play out really interestingly. Because it would require Dalinar to forgive him, and after what happened that would require friggin' divine levels of honour and mercy. Of course, if there's any character to display such a thing...

Ha, he'd be so crowded in Stupidityspren that he couldn't see anything and walk off the ledge of a chasm... ;D

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: WoK: Making Wishes Out West (*Spoilers*)
« on: January 20, 2011, 05:15:06 PM »
Remember how it works - you tell her what you want, and then she gives you what *she* thinks you deserve, plus a curse to go with it.

This. I would stay the hell away from the old magic unless it's for my life or my family. The farmer who asked for enough wares to get his family through hard times was the only one who did it right. Interestingly enough, his curse was the one that wasn't so bad in the end...

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I just read through the Way of Kings for the second time - definitely my record for least time waited between read-throughs by far. Some observations I made, maybe you want to weigh in on this (spoilers, obviously):

- Elhokar is talking to two people whose appearances are described in detail in the prologue. Then Szeth states that they are unimportant. To him, maybe, but seriously: no, they're not! Maybe this is a red herring instead of real foreshadowing, but the murder is definitely an important event, so something may be going on there...

- Dalinar is doing something with his Shardplate during the fight with the Chasmfiend. At one point, where he is jumping up, it says his armor almost found the right direction to land on its own. This could well be Dalinar using something stormlight-related without knowing it - just like Kaladin did exceptionally well in combat and at the bridge before realizing what was going on.

- No clue what happened to Gaz, even after specifically looking out for anything about him. His viewpoint describes him as seeing something in the shadows, so maybe there is more to the theory that something surge-related is going on with him, but other than that... ?

- Hoid does grill Dalinar about whether he knows something about Adonalsium. My explanation is Hoid knows that Dalinar is getting visions from the Almighty and wants to know how much info Dalinar got.

- We know the Windrunners have access to pressure and gravity-related powers. However, the question is, are there more ways to use this than the three Lashings? Szeth seems to take it for granted that that's all there is, but he doesn't know everything...

- What shattered the shattered plains? It is described as if something heavy fell on the land there. Must have been quite the impact, but they are not a crater. I originally figured they were created by erosion, but that statement hints at something else...

- not much is known about Shadesmar in general, but I did notice on the second read-through how Jasnah gets Shallan out of there by pushing her into one of the floating flames. What are those flames? Some sort of gateway? Could they work in both directions somehow?

- The number 10 is obviously a major theme of the series. However, the appendix hints at 10 further magic systems beyond the first 10 that we are starting to learn about. So 20 in total. Also, looking at the 20 traits associated with the 10 numbers (each herald has 2 traits, which are similar in theme) gives us 20 again. Little to go on for now, though.

- as you may have noticed, I drifted far away from observation and am now firmly in the land of speculation. One question came to me towards the end: most of the 10-related things are positive: Heralds, Knights Radiant orders, etc. There are however the 10 fools mentioned several times. Who are they? And if the 10 orders of the Radiants will rise again in the series, will there be a set of 10 "evil" orders? The central question is where the number 10 comes from - is it coming from the Almighty somehow? Then it would make sense to have the "good guys" ordered in 10s while Odium's forces are less regular? Or is it something more basic - then whoever will be a more direct representation of Odium could also have 10 orders - and maybe 10 powers to complement the other 10 (see above). The Almighty did say that Odium might be moved to chose a Champion, whatever that means, so more direct interaction with some form of minions is likely coming.

- finally, what are the Tranquiline Halls? Just the Rosharian equivalent of heaven? Or is there something - as Jasnah said, I am now looking for natural explanations for supernatural beliefs... may they have some form of a (far-away) historical basis?

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Did the Lord Ruler ... ? (Spoilers)
« on: January 20, 2011, 04:41:46 PM »
It has been a while since I read this, but doesn't "contact with Ruin" require a hemalurgic spike? Just any type of metal in the body is not enough from what I gathered. The "implants" the Lord Ruler had were only to prevent anyone Pulling or Pushing them.

If any metal in the body would work, Ruin could speak to anyone who swallowed some metal...

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