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Role-Playing Games / Re: Tracy Hickman's rant
« on: September 16, 2002, 12:13:34 PM »
Roy Lichtenstein used comic book images to mock the comic book industry. He wanted to show the stupidity of the comic book industry. He was an antagonist to comic books not a supportor.

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Role-Playing Games / Re: Tracy Hickman's rant
« on: September 16, 2002, 01:04:28 AM »
Why does that article have a reference to Roy Lichtenstein? It seems like they are scraping for some sense of false validation.

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Movies and TV / Spirited Away
« on: September 15, 2002, 01:35:32 PM »
So Spirited Away opens this next Friday. Disney has changed the release from "wide" to "limited." I sort of wonder what caused the change. Could it be Americas' phobia of foreign films?

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Role-Playing Games / Re: Tracy Hickman's rant
« on: September 13, 2002, 08:16:50 PM »
I agree that the terrorist link is going a little too far but other than that I completely agree with Tracey Hickman. Books like that give all of role-playing a bad name. Sure it's just a game, but games are one of the most powerful learning and teaching tools available. Role-play is used A LOT by educators. Most studies find that role-playing helps in developing habits and retaining information. Role-playing games do this as well, but to a much smaller degree. I also find that the line between pretend and reality can be crossed over fairly easily. This isn't always a bad thing, in fact it can be a good thing. For example, role-players can learn social skills by pretending to do them in a session and then applying what they learn to a real situation. "The Book of Vile Darkness" doesn't seem to be giving that sort of encouragement.
Personally, I strongly discourage evil characters in my role-playing games and I give out punishments for performing evil acts (no matter what the rule-book says). I also try to avoid having completely evil villians, which keeps me from having to play evil characters and tends to make the story-line more interesting.
People that I have met who continually play evil players in role-playing games tend to be poeple I would rather not associate with and have some very bad habits and attitudes.
On a final note, I agree that "The Book of Vile Darkness" is for an immature-mature audience.

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Books / Re: An attack on fantasy fiction
« on: September 13, 2002, 03:11:51 AM »
Well, I like to argue and I don't mind having my ideas taking a few hits.

First, I would like to say that Spriggan is right that artists tend to hate everything that's not thiers. It almost a survival mechanism. It's why so many artist are cynical, bitter and pessimistic. Just think about it, by giving creadance to an artists that has a different style/taste than you, you're taking business away from yourself. If they do well, then you won't do well. It's okay to validate the work of artists that have a simular style/taste because that should support your business. If they do well, you should do well. Sorry, that's just how the industry works.

Mieville is trying to protect his work. If he gets stereotyped as Tolkien or Lewis type writer, then his future endeavors could prove problematic. If he seperates himself from the mainstream, his chances for widespread success are a lot greater. Being able to standout means everything. Tolkien and Lewis were successful because when they wrote they stood out from the mainstream.

Mieville knows he needs to stand out and if he gets labled as a fantsy writer, people think he is just like Tolkien or Lewis and therefor are more likely to ignore him and his work.

Dave Wolverton talked about this one day in class. He said that there is a rash of Tolkien/Lewis bashing right now because it is too difficult to stand-out in the industry because of their influence. Mieville is right that the public tends to assume that ALL fantasy is like Tolkien. Tolkien set the ground work for the fantasy genre as it is today. However, things have to change if they are going to last. What Mieville advocates is that it is time for the paradigms surrounding the fantasy genre to change to be more inclusive of different possibilities. He feels that adherence to the Tolkien foundation has stagnated to genre.

As for the escapist theory. Well, duh, of course people read for escapism. However, it not the only reason that they will read. Someone can start reading something for an escapist reason and then change their reasoning for reading as they are reading the novel. Mieville seems smart enough to understand this and is therefor trying to find other reasons to keep people reading his books besides pure escapism. Of course, attitudes towards escapism are always changing. Sometimes escapism is a perfectly acceptable reasoning, other times it is not. For example, recently art has been VERY cynical and sarcastic with a "nothing is sacred" attitude...until 911. Now there is still cynisism, but a amount of sincerity and sentimentality is starting to emerge. Escapism has become more acceptable as of the past year.

I think Mieville attack on escapism is a trivial matter. It simply doesn't matter if someone reads a book for escapist reasons. What they take with them from reading the book is the important issue.

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Movies and TV / Re: Farscape official cancled!
« on: September 10, 2002, 10:48:04 AM »
I don't really know what TV executives are thinking. TNT decided to cancel Witchblade even though it has great ratings. Showtime decided to cancel Stargate:SG1 which was fortunately picked up by SciFi where it's ratings improved. Now SciFi is canceling Farscape which is one of its top performers. Of course, all of these shows are canceled so that they can make room for new shows. I guess, TV networks have a severe case of "bird in the bush" syndrome.

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Everything Else / Re: Cool stuff found on the Internet (Take 2)
« on: August 30, 2002, 11:21:01 PM »
That's a cool game. My only complaint is all the porn ads on the site itself. Just what were you looking for that brought you to that site, Sprig?

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Role-Playing Games / Re: Hackmaster
« on: August 30, 2002, 12:50:54 PM »
I don't know, I felt that 1st and 2nd edition AD&D were needlessly complicated. I stuck with D&D basic for years simply out of annoyance for AD&D. I also find that RPGs that require a lot of work out of the GM become prohibitive because no one wants to GM if they have to do all of the work and end up missing out on most of the fun. Finding a GM seems to be the hardest part of getting into role-playing. So I think it is fair to say that it is a drawback for an RPG to require the GM to invest more money and time than the rest of the players.

Also, by relying too much on word of mouth marketing (i.e. new players being introduced by old players) they are seriously hurting their potential market share. They just can't compete with RPGs that can be played straight out of the box without previous experience.

I guess this is my problem with RPGs that are labeled "best for expereinced RPG players." Sure they can be a lot of fun, but I find that most experienced RPG players are just as capable of inventing their own RPG system. "Experinced RPG systems" are just a group of players who wanted to add some more complexity to an existing game system and then decided to market it to other people. Most don't make too far even if they do win awards. I just don't think they have anything on those game designers who are original enough to create their own system without copying from other systems or relying on assumed "RPG traditions."

So Hackmaster, might be a great system, but I think the cost, lack-of-originality and "experience" requirement are all valid criticisms that would affect anyone interested in playing the game.

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Everything Else / Re: Cool stuff found on the Internet (Take 2)
« on: August 27, 2002, 01:35:00 PM »
Spriggan showed me this site. It's very cool though it does require a high bandwidth.

http://www.gorillaz.com/

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Everything Else / Re: Cool stuff found on the Internet (Take 2)
« on: August 15, 2002, 06:37:48 PM »
That was very scary. I want to know what was happening behind the hill when the clothes start flying? Then again maybe not.

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Movies and TV / Re: Interesting Movie Facts and Rumors
« on: August 14, 2002, 08:27:25 PM »
Forgive me if I don't hold my breath for a Card movie anytime soon (as in the next couple of years).

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Movies and TV / Re: Interesting Movie Facts and Rumors
« on: August 13, 2002, 05:53:55 PM »
So, the rumor is that someone has licensed Scott Card's The Lost Boys for a motion picture. I believe hearing rumors that a movie of Ender's Game was in the works. Does anyone know if a movie based on a Card novel will actually get made?

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Role-Playing Games / Re: Setting Ideas Contest
« on: August 08, 2002, 10:39:09 AM »
Wizards has delayed the setting contest results even further. They say that they might have the results by the end of this month.

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Everything Else / Re: Cool stuff found on the Internet (Take 2)
« on: August 01, 2002, 10:24:29 AM »
Hey, I got Kenshin.

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Movies and TV / Re: Interesting Movie Facts and Rumors
« on: July 22, 2002, 05:56:27 PM »
Yes, but during the production of the first film, JK insisted that every actor in the film be British, including the extras. She even is rumored to have not wanted Chris Colombus as the director because he was American. Sure the money backing it is American but the intellectual rights belong to a Brit. With Columbus stepping down it was thought that JK would have a chance to get a Brittish director, which is what she wanted in the first place.

Also, half of the producers are British and most of the production crew is British. If the distributor (WB) wasn't American the entire film would of been British made.

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