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Brandon Sanderson / Re: WOT Help
« on: December 10, 2008, 11:53:29 PM »
Be sure to get the hardback, my paperback copies have completely fallen apart from being read too much ;) you'll love these books!

The only reason to collect paperbacks of the first two books is for the really nice b&w illustrations throughout.  I'm talking about the paperbacks that split each volume into two parts, the first titled From the Two Rivers.  The cover art is just as bad as usual.  All the drawings of the main characters within are good, I think, except maybe Rand's.  I've yet to see one that captured the complexity of that combination of moral integrity and inner chaos.  Hard to draw.  

Oh, now that I look, the artwork I like so much is from Wizards of the Coast and Sally Wern Comport.  No wonder.

(Slight spoiler alert!)

It's the moral integrity of the Two Rivers characters that kept me reading all the way to the end.  My biggest complaint about RJ's world is that he never explains where this comes from and why they (Two Rivers folk) seem to have a foundational sense of right and wrong and almost no one else that they encounter really does, except the Tinkers and a few others.  In the real world, there is some kind of codified belief system behind most societies who honor women and children and place a high value on all life in general.  I don't believe it occurs in a vacuum.  

I'd like to discuss the Aiel here and how their rejection of their moral code has changed them, how cheap life has become to them, but that would get into spoiler territory, so I won't say more.  It's interesting, though, and worthy of a thread someday if it has not already been discussed.  

(Nominal Spoiler section over)

 To Brandon Sanderson's credit, he does not gloss over this important detail, religion or lack of it, and often reveals why his characters believe and act as they do and I appreciate that.  And he does it without skewing everything toward his own belief system.  That is annoying to me even when it skews to my own!  Except for C.S. Lewis, who did it so well.

 I have to believe my fantasy or I can't enjoy it.  Is that so wrong??  There is only so much unbelief I am willing to suspend, in other words.  My above WOT complaint is mitigated tremendously by great character development and lots of unexpected and imaginative plot deviations.  That's probably why The Shadow Rising is my favorite book.


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Books / Re: What books did you grow up on?
« on: December 10, 2008, 12:59:42 AM »
... I read pretty much every Black Stallion book I could get my hands on at that age. I think I may have read them all at some point in my youth. I loved books about horses, and The Secret Garden and The Little Princess, when I was about eight I think.

Ditto for me.

 Loved Walter Farley's horse stories in 3-4th grade, especially The Horse Tamer, my fave. Loved Bev. Cleary's Ramona books at that time, also. I've read through Lord of the Rings about once per decade since junior high.  Well, I may not read it again since it's nicer to put on the dvd and watch with kids now. 

   Was entranced by Heinlein in high school, but now reject his worldview completely.  Didn't read anything memorable in school and missed many classics I've since discovered on my own, like My Antonia (most recent), Jane Austen and many others.  So sad that any mention of "God" results in a book neglected by public school curricula these days. 

Oh, and I used to read all my dad's Ian Fleming books and got hooked on the spy thriller.  Best spy novels eventually discovered: almost anything by Len Deighton. 

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Books / Re: Best book you've ever read...
« on: December 10, 2008, 12:37:56 AM »
Try Carol Berg for a good five-parter that holds its own for the most part.  Son of Avonar is book one and book five of her The Bridges of D'Arnath series is the best of the bunch.  It's easy to start a series, difficult to end it well.  IM (not so humble) O, Ms. Berg gets better as she gets older.

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Books / Re: Best book you've ever read...
« on: December 09, 2008, 11:17:15 PM »
   I guess, upon reflection, that GRRM is not a "bad writer," but maybe just a sad person who seems to dislike/distrust women (note the way they tend to die horribly, if I remember correctly, before we really get to know them) and has possibly never had a satisfying intimate relationship.   We can only write that which we know.

    These are just the impressions I got before throwing his book-two in the trash so no one else would have to read it.   He's probably a very nice man... but I don't ever remember throwing a book away before.  I did burn all my astrology books once, though, and never regretted it.

 



  

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: WOT Help
« on: December 09, 2008, 09:19:12 PM »
Just wondering why no one has mentioned Encyclopedia WOT?  I have found this site invaluable when I run across a character that I don't remember.  It is exhaustive, to the point of TMI sometimes, but so very helpful for those of us with older brains.

 I did have one important plot development ruined once when I read too far down a character's time line, but, with discipline, this site can help one through books 6-11.  I even recommend reading the synopses of books 8 and 10 rather than the whole volumes rather than give up on the series in disgust. ;)   

I also have loved the audio books for my third time through WOT.  Bad pronunciations aside, I love having these stories read to me in preparation for book 12.  Go, Brandon!

Winter's Heart has enough good stuff in it, I think, to read through.  I'll listen to that one as soon as my free library finds it for me.  I just download on my computer, then onto my iPod, and erase when it's through.   

Fun to read JoeC's posts... keep it up!

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Books / Re: Best book you've ever read...
« on: December 09, 2008, 08:49:47 PM »
Excuse me if I don't find pointless explicit sexual torture as a good read.

...which is why I put away Terry G. and George R.R.M. before too long into those series.  I'm sorry, fans of these authors, this is not good writing and often offensive/derivative.   

I appreciate traditional fantasy done well and cannot recommend Carol Berg highly enough for superbly imaginative stories with unexpected plot twists and succinct writing.  And she wrapped up her latest in two books!   Carol does not shy from action and violence, but it is never unresolved/pointless/ just-for-shock-value like so much in modern fantasy.  Start with her Transformation or Song of the Beast and be ready for a wild ride that ends well.

Also enjoyed discovering Patrick Carman's books this year. 

Other great reads: Jill Paton Walsh's The Green Book (healthy appetizer), Ralph Moody's Little Britches (salad course),  Jane Austen's Mansfield Park (main course), anything by Terry Pratchett, but especially the new Tiffany Aching series (dessert, of course).

Please, everyone, read To Kill a Mockingbird just for fun sometime.  I think this book is ruined by being required in school, but it is worth reading again.

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