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Brandon Sanderson / Re: If Mistborn was a movie. . . .
« on: November 01, 2008, 03:15:28 PM »
hmmm, good point book - Viggo is a bit on in years...  the Eledn actor should be, probably around early to mid 20s. Maybe Tom Welling?

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: If Mistborn was a movie. . . .
« on: October 31, 2008, 05:46:29 PM »
Viggo Mortensen would be perfect for Elend

Cillian Murphy (Scarecrow from the new Batman movies and the star of 28 days Later) would be a great Kelsier

Katie Holmes could make a good Vin I think, but we need someone who looks like they have more emotional scars, like Courtney Cole-Fendley

Eric Roberts for Lord Ruler

Robbie Coltrane for Dox

Oliver Phelps for  Spook

Siddig or Quinto are decent choices for Sazed, I think, though, the person playing Sazed needs to me more "timeless" and better able to play off a eunuch charachter, someone in their mid 40s, early 50s, someone who can pull off "pensive, yet excitable"

Shan would need to be played by Rebecca Romjin, hands down.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Brandon To Write Wheel of Time Book 12
« on: October 31, 2008, 12:12:19 PM »
And all this after I tried to steer the conversation back towards the original topic ;)

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Brandon To Write Wheel of Time Book 12
« on: October 30, 2008, 11:15:29 PM »
I dont mean to be a buzz kill but wouldnt this fit better in the "What are you reading" thread?

No, as were discussing, originally, Brandon's possible styles and influences.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Brandon To Write Wheel of Time Book 12
« on: October 30, 2008, 06:17:14 PM »
I do not believe I ever read the Immortality series. He has so many books, I would have to be very dedicated to read them all....

Anyway, I was pondering the WoT series in relation to Mistborn and Elantris and came to a revelation....


Most hero-fantasy novels, or even just hero-fiction novel in general follow a formulaic bent. For example, in many books and movies, there is the simple farm boy, or McDonald's worker or whatever who gets swept up and saves the day/becomes king etc. There are variations to this but pretty much this is how it goes.

The Wheel of Time follows that formula, initially. and branches out with similar things happening to princesses, etc.

Brandon twists that formula a little bit in Elantris and Mistborn. In Elantris, the heroes are the princess pawn and the heir to the throne who is reviled by his father. Mistborn has a similar theme, with one of the main heroes being the heir to the most powerful nobel being reviled by his father.

But there are striking similarities between WoT and Mistborn in terms of progression. In both series, the beginning hero/heroine starts out with a small group, and the cast of charachters gradually expands. But what is rather unique is that both series do not just expand the cast, they make all of the main and sub-main charachters dynamic. There is little of a charachter doing something out of characnter to progress a plot point (as has been the case on the TV series "Heroes" this season). Many books and authors introduce a great many charachters, but rarely do they make them dynamic, and rarely are we treated to an in depth look at them.

And I believe, ultimately, that is one of the reasons Brandon was annointed to finalize this series. His writing is obviously heavily influenced by the works of Robert Jordan, add to that his obviously great imagination (seriously, who ever would have thought about swallowing shaved metal as a magic system?) and his tenacious attention to detail. And Brandon could very well be "the next Robert Jordan".

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Brandon To Write Wheel of Time Book 12
« on: October 30, 2008, 03:17:39 PM »
Beyond But What of Earth?, what highbrow Anthony books do you recommend?

Aprentice Adept was a good series, but you have already read that one, beyond that, I honestly have not read one of his novels in about 10-12 years or so. Of Man and Manta may be another you may want to check out.

For Discworld, well, I guess I will pick one up and give it a shot. The library is less than 1000 feet from my house, so it shouldn't be too difficult. :)

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Brandon To Write Wheel of Time Book 12
« on: October 29, 2008, 09:51:48 PM »
I never read the Discworld books..  I dont remember what I read really, but he didn't land on my "authors to read" list at all from what I have read.

I read many of the Myth books as well, quite juvenile, but fun. As for the Phule's War set, I found them to be highly intelligent reads, if you paid attention.

Piers Anthony's high-brow stuff can be quite compelling, and like Brandon's books, can start off slow and one must have patience to get through the first few chapters. I felt that "But What of Earth?" his first book, reads alot like Elantris in style and pacing.

However, upon reflection, i think the Mistborn series can be compared to Fiest's Magician series in term of writing style pacing and payoff. (Granted, I have not yet read Hero of Ages). I would even go as far to say that "A Darkness at Sethanon" left me with the same feelings as "Well of Ascension" while I was reading and when I finished. Both left me agape in some areas and both had me afraid for the charachters and sympathetic of the villians (and pawns of villians).

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Brandon To Write Wheel of Time Book 12
« on: October 29, 2008, 02:31:56 PM »
with a flash and dash of Piers Anthony and Robert Asprin thrown in for good measure.
Ouch! Hope Brandon doesn't read this thread. :)

(He might one day aspire have his flashes and dashes compared to Terry Pratchett, but not those two...)

I like Robert Asprin's books myself, and liked a lot of Piers Anthony...in junior high...but not at all for the same reason I like Brandon's books.

You must have only read a sampling of either of their works. Both can write high-brow and junior high material. For a good read from Anthony, read his first book: "But What Of Earth?" And for Asprin, check out his full catalogue.

I mention both of them because I see a little bit of their styles in his writing, including some dry sardonic humor. As for Prachett? Well, I never found him appealing, and I tried, I really did. Bored me to tears.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Mistborn or Elantris
« on: October 29, 2008, 05:06:41 AM »
Even though you already mad eyour decision, as a "newbie" here, i thought I would chime in.

I read Mistborn first (both books, waiting on HoA) and then Elantris. I think if I had not read Mistborn first, I would have given up on Elantris by the 2nd chapter. elantris started off very rough and somewhat confusing. You have to have alot of patience to make it past the 4th or 5th chapter. but the payoff is worth it. but since I had read Mistborn, I knew how good of an auther Brandon was already, so I stuck with it. New readers of his works may not be so inclined.


A tidbit concerning my fantasy/scifi reading background:
I first read Lord of the Rings when I was about 9 (or close to 30 years ago). Since then I have read several hundred, if not thousands of books. some by the bigger name authors like jordan, Pohl, Fiest, Eddings etc. some by middling, or unknown authors. I consider myself well versed in fantasy novels. I have never read Harry Potter.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Brandon To Write Wheel of Time Book 12
« on: October 29, 2008, 04:41:18 AM »
to those of you WoT fans who have not yet picked up any of Brandon's books...   I became interested in his writing solely because of his finishing off the Wheel of Time. So, one day in Borders bookstore, I saw Mistborn on sale for only $5 - so I picked it up...   I am totally hooked. It was a compelling read, and then I picked up teh 2nd book immediately afterwards, and am anxiously awaiting my copy of Mistborn 3... in the mean time, I read Elantris. It did start of slow, but finished beautifully. Got my wife and kids interested in Alcatraz too. Amazing. I would have completely passed him by if not for WoT but I would say, this guy could be the next Raymond Fiest (possibly even the next Robert Jordan). at the very least, his writing are on par with Donaldson with a flash and dash of Piers Anthony and Robert Asprin thrown in for good measure.

botton line, if you loved Wheel of time, pick up Mistborn. you wont be disappointed.

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