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Brandon Sanderson / Re: The Countdown
« on: September 26, 2008, 05:19:25 PM »
I really don't hope its that easy; just use the power of the well and everything is back to normal. It seems like it would cheapen all the effort and sacrifice of the characters in previous books.

I really doubt it's going to be that easy.  Afterall, Vin already used the WoA and from the sounds of it, it seems that it doesn't re-fill all too quickly.  Besides, I am a big advocate that TLR did, at one point (or he always), have great intentions.  He just took a wrong turn or two.  I have a feeling TLR was essentially covering up a problem (Ruin) by doing something drastic (using the well to essentially screw the world).  Vin and the gang are going to have to aim much further then TLR did.

That's just my opinion, though.

Very good discussion, everyone. Sorry I couldn't take part in it, but I've been terribly busy.

T-18 days, anybody?

I know this has been discussed in the HoA thread, but let's get something going here: Who do you think the Hero of Ages is?

The problem is that it's going to be very difficulty taking stabs at this one since all the things we know about the HoA could be tinkered with.  Gotta love Ruin.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: For theorizing purposes...
« on: September 26, 2008, 05:11:35 PM »

But we also know that he had a rather large stock of it as well.  SO he probably just swallowed a few beads before the fight.

A rather large stock of it.. in is back :P

Well, it does mention that Zane worked in the Pits of Hathsin.  What if he got stabbed with like an atium shard?  Or perhaps someone got him with an atium dagger of some sort.  (I was thinking of like...prison shanking thing)

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: What will happen in book three: HOA.
« on: September 26, 2008, 04:52:13 PM »
I am excused from ignorance on this point, because I didn't pick up on anything about Zane. Yup, I've never cared for Zane. I completely missed the "You were never insane" part, or the spike, or virtually anything about Zane until I came to the forums here. If anything, I'm consistent about that.

For the purposes of this topic, I'd vote Zane to be killed, but he's already dead (WOOT!), so I guess I can't. But if Zane comes back to life, I'd kill him again.

Zane is my favorite character!

He wasn't insane, the voices he heard was the Ruin. He was actually a decent person...take that back! >:(

Kill him.

 :o

I loved Zane.  When Vin killed him, I was a very sad panda.  Seriously, I loved the sections from his perspective.  What's more, Zane didn't listen to Ruin so for all we know, Ruin can be resisted.  (IE-There is hope for Marsh)

Now to get on topic, I voted more then one.  Sazed, Spook, and Marsh are all possibilities in my mind.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: The Countdown
« on: September 23, 2008, 05:44:27 PM »
The epigraph in Sample Chapter 2 Alludes to that very fact, Qarlin.  The Well's power gave knowledge but no wisdom.  It's like gaining the ability to run 100 miles an hour without learning how to stop safely.

I really like the metaphor.  I think this is definitely a possibility.  Omniscience is a tricky thing, though.  If you had full knowledge of what you could do, you might be able to see all the possibilities of using the power in the blink of an eye.  I'm not saying that the well really gives omniscience, but it did seem like it gave a panoramic view when Vin took it in.  She could literally see everything.  "You could make mistakes..." is about as true as it gets, for our minds at least.


So TLR could have started to fix things, realize he didn't have enough time with the power to finish, so he kind of stopped everything until the well filled up again, so he could finish, anchoring the freeze in time to himself, since he should still be around by then.

That's another thought.  I really like looking at the Lord Ruler as a tragic/heroic character.  What he said at the end of "The Final Empire" was a bit chilling, to say the least since Vin could have (and probably has) messed things up by killing TLR then failing to use the well to finish the job.  I love it!

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Warbreaker: Free Ebook
« on: September 21, 2008, 06:54:12 PM »
I have read most books I own several times ??? but like everyone says this thread is about warbreaker.
I have just started reading it and I am enjoying it a lot (despite the misspelled words, which I actually find encouraging; there's hope for me yet!)
but one thing doesnt quite add up for me. If the godking was stillborn at birth, then returned and if the returned dont age... wouldnt he still be a pheotus?
I'm so clever I scare myself sometimes ::)

I started Warbreaker on Monday and had it done on Wednesday. I can definitely say that something did not add up there :P


Didn't anyone catch that the physical appearance of the Returned is one of the major plot twists?  It all made perfect sense to me at the end when I understood what was happening and how it was foreshadowed.

Long story short, the Returned get to choose what they look like; their body responds to their self-image.  With practice, they can even make it voluntary (although most don't know that).  Returned who are young grow until they choose to stop, and those who are old can do whatever they please (probably within limits, but still.)

That's kind-of the way I thought about it.  For some reason, I thought they age to their god-like returned form very quickly as well.

I'm not 100% sure though...I'll have to read it again after I am done reading MB 1 and 2 again.

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