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Reading Excuses / Re: Spejoku's Nightlife
« on: December 18, 2008, 04:54:28 AM »
It's okay.  I never take anyone's word on the internet completely seriously (unless the topic lends itself to it).  Thanks for pointing it out though, that's the main reason for having non-authors read stuff  :)

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Reading Excuses / Re: Spejoku's Nightlife
« on: December 18, 2008, 02:22:33 AM »
Hearing and smell would both come at the same time, but as both are really important (smell moreso) right now I don't think I'd be able to have them both hit at the same time and make things clear of what he can do.  Most likely I could have him simply ignore one of them... but I don't really know how that would work effectively. 

Caleb just was observant of what Jared was doing.  he didn't know what order they'd pop up.  I really wanted to put in the gameshow bit though.  too bad I'll probably have to take it out.

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Reading Excuses / Re: Email List + Submission Dates
« on: December 18, 2008, 02:15:11 AM »
hey, when's the next submission dates?  January first and 15th?

Did we already discuss whether or not we could send things in early here?  I have another story that would be nice to get critiqued, but it can wait. 

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Reading Excuses / Re: Spejoku's Nightlife
« on: December 17, 2008, 04:47:32 AM »
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When you put in lots of modern slang and song references, it is good and everybody understands. But in a year, two years, five? no one will know what you are talking about and it really dates the book. Every read the Pendragon cycle? (not arthur. I think it started out as a teen-level series.) the author put in a ton of common slang and words but when I read it ten years later I was laughing at the archaic phrases. Something to think about.

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Trohs is pretty cool, but if you want him to sound intimidating don't let him say things like "anyhoo" and "Hold still now."

Thanks a lot for all your help.  You're right about the slang and Troh's dialogue; I need to change those up.  I have a weakness for plot dumps that I need to get over too. I should maybe split some of the reveals into earlier chapters. 
when I wrote this, I wanted to cram as much as I could, so the people who read it (you guys aren't the first ones, sorry) would have a better idea of what he could do for the fighting scene.

What happened before all this is that 1, Jared had his birthday and his dad revealed what the family could do.  2, Jared freaks out and tries to forget all about it.  for the most part his family lets him be.  3. Caleb comes in and this chapter happens.

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However, I don't quite understand why Jared was afraid of dying if he knew the changing would make him survive.

Jared, besides knowing the whole shapeshifting thing, has no clue what abilities come with it.  He doesn't know what he can live through, and Caleb intends to show it to him.  in this chapter the point was to show what he can start to do, and to introduce his fear-smelling ability.  Each shapeshifter character will have a different specific ability; Caleb's is near precognative reflexes. 

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The only thing that I can really add is about the wolf/dog/mutant thing.  Which is it?  I could see Caleb and Jared as wolves and Trohs as a werewolf but that added mutant thing kept throwing me out of the story.  I would suggest pick one are run with it.

Trohs is a werewolf, rather than a shifter.  The thing is that werewolves here get their power from the new moon, rather than the full one, because of plot.  Werewolves are infectuous; they can make people one against their will.  Shapeshifters, along without having the bipedal ape form, is stuck within a family.  The only way to make someone who is not a shapeshifter into one is for the family to adopt them and for them to get some blood from a shapeshifting person.  It's complicated.

Most shapeshifters, along with the other family based magical creatures (there's more, trust me) regard Werewolves as freaks, mainly because they aren't bound to bloodlines.  It sort of became instinctual for the "regular" magic beings to dislike Werecreatures, which is part of why Jared thinks Trohs is freaky.  the other part is that Trohs really is freaky.

Jared sees Trohs as a mutant, that's the only reason he's described that way.  I'll take it out.

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I don't understand why he would assume that an "oily" smell is bad or dangerous. Its a city. He's been smelling things all day.

the fear scent gives Jared bad vibes.  I need to make that more clear.

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That line about "the average Joe's ability to ignore the obvious" is a good line. But unless you have some serious magical explanation for why people ignore talking dogs, take it out.
I'll add a sort of natural "shroud" ability to all the magic characters in a later draft.  If the presence of magic makes regular people hallucinate normality, then it makes everything much easier.  I'll keep the joe line until I really have to explain the shroud.  Caleb would lie to Jared just for a cool line.

...I have a problem with lame non-fight scenes.  I need to add some family tension or something to make things more interesting in the non-combat parts.

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I was disappointed when I got to the end and there was no more to read.

Thanks!  ;D That helps a lot.

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Reading Excuses / Re: Spejoku's Nightlife
« on: December 16, 2008, 05:46:06 AM »
stupid gmail.  let me re-send it.

edit: re sent!  I sent the first volley off at school, so that's probably why no one got it.  sorry for being so late!

Oh, and the thing is 17 pages long. Don't feel pressured to read it all!  only read what you like.

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Reading Excuses / Spejoku's Nightlife
« on: December 15, 2008, 10:58:58 PM »
Put your questions here and I'll try to explain as best I can.  I still need to find where I put my character descriptions, so those are on their way, but everything else put it here. 

A brief summary of the story before this chapter:

Jared (POV character) lives in new york.  he has 4 older brothers.  His family is also enchanted.  Jared had his birthday about three or four days before this chapter, where his dad explained the "Family Heritage."  Then this chapter starts.

...I need to flesh that out a bit...

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Writing Group / Re: National Novel Writing Month 2008
« on: December 01, 2008, 04:09:33 AM »
Finally finished yesterday.  Nowhere done with the story, but whatever.  That's what december is for  ;D

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Wheel v. Mist
« on: November 30, 2008, 08:29:26 AM »
Oh heck yes  ;D

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Wheel v. Mist
« on: November 29, 2008, 02:57:33 AM »
Personally I think the terrain would factor in a lot more.  If the fight were in an open, flat field, then the channeler would probably be able to nuke the mistborn before they came within 100 feet (I think of it as Mistborn=ninja, and channeler=mage)

But if it were in a small space, then most likely the mistborn would be able to kill the channeler before they could weave anything, using coins and such.  Also, a city fight would figure a lot into the mistborn's favor, as there would be tons of pushing and pulling anchors to use, probably enough for the mistborn to stay consistently out of the channeler's sight and crosshairs.  you can't channel at what you can't see.

of course, there are things like if the channeler has wards or has time to make big fancy traps, but I think that a good pull on a peasant's coin pouch behind the guy (or just a nail for that matter) would be enough to kill most channelers, especially if you have them distracted.

This is assuming that no one fights an allomancer long enough to figure out some freaky weave to shield them.  they'd have to block the energy within the allomancer's body, rather than try to break them off from the source. (obviously, if they haven't fought them before, they'd assume that they fought using the source, and try to shield them while the mistborn stabs them in the face.)  that'd take way too long to figure out, even for the main, prodigy characters.

Besides, if the fight was in the mistborn world, then the channelers can't even use their magic because the Power is not there to use. 

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Writing Group / Re: National Novel Writing Month 2008
« on: November 22, 2008, 11:18:09 PM »
GAH 35795 is LAME.  STUPID SCHOOl AND WORK!

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Reading Excuses / Re: Email List + Submission Dates
« on: November 22, 2008, 08:32:36 PM »
Is twenty people fine? If so, sign me up!  

Nanowrimo is taking my time, so I'll try for the fifteenth. 

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Reading Excuses / Re: Your Background
« on: November 22, 2008, 08:25:02 PM »
Hey, My name is Spencer, and I'm in utah currently. (spencer or spejoku, whatever)

I started wanting to make webcomics, but then I realized that those take a lot of work, my writing stank, and I wasnt all that good at drawing.  I've had at least five different prospective webcomic series going through my head at one point or another, then decided that I'd just write one without drawing it.  it didn't stink too bad. 

Right now I'm doing NaNoWriMo and reading the WoT series at the same time (I can tell it's rubbing off on me), but I also have a less sophisticated and more fun YA story going on with a class.  I like stories with nonhuman characters and how they react with regular people; I've been able to see that theme kind of repeated in almost everything I write. 

Anyway, deadlines and a writing group are just what I think I need to get my stories done.  :D

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Reading Excuses / Re: Genre?
« on: November 22, 2008, 08:17:23 PM »
I honestly don't know what genres I write, but I like making magic systems and having non-human characters, so fantasy and sci-fi are my favorites.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: WOT Help
« on: November 22, 2008, 08:08:19 PM »
I'm reading the series for the first time as well, and I'm up to Path of Daggers.  personally, I really like how he can make characters so convincing.  Nynaeve, for example, is one of my favorites, mainly because she freaks out so much :D   I don't really like Rand all that much because he just seems a little too "Rawr, I can't trust anyone to do anything important and I can't send the people I do trust to do anything important because I can't risk them and Lews Therin tells me to kill them but he's crazy and I don't want to sleep"

At least Nynaeve will make things explode rather than bottle them up like that.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Brandon To Write Wheel of Time Book 12
« on: November 05, 2008, 03:43:43 AM »
You know, I never even started reading WoT until after I heard that Brandon was doing the last one.  Now I'm on #4 and loving them.  Although I wish the ones I got had cooler covers.  Perhaps the ying-yang aes sedai symbol and a solid background. 

Anyhow, I really like it that we never realize the full potential of the magic, or even exactly how it works, until we piece the info together. 

Also, Nynaeve can make your head explode  ;D

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