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Books / Re: What are you reading, part 3
« on: October 31, 2008, 11:14:23 PM »
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Anyway, what do you think of Pats voice?

That's actually my favorite aspect of the book. He has a terribly ominous voice. The funniest part is that when i met him, i found an overly clever witted jokester, who never stopped smiling. For him to shed such a grim tone in his writings from his light hearted disposition...well, he's just awesome is what im trying to say.
I don't know about that. I think his voice in the book is often quite funny and entertaining. Any grimness just comes from more of an injection of reality than you see in a lot of books. Life for an orphan would naturally be very difficult for an orphan in a society like this, and it's nice to see it portrayed that way.

Thats probably a better way to explain it. It is sort of morbid humor. Which isn't so hard to believe given that Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett are two of his favorite authors...

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Books / Re: What are you reading, part 3
« on: October 31, 2008, 04:07:21 PM »
I agree that Wizards First Rule was a fantastic book. However, I was extremely dissapointed in the second book, Stone of Tears. So much so that it took away from how awesome the first book was. Don't get me wrong Stone of Tears wasn't horrible but it just couldn't, successfully, follow up a great first act. Thus, taking away from the show as a whole.

I know what you mean, authors tend to paint themselves into a corner--its hard to follow up "The End of the World"

So when another book comes, its usually disappointing or redundent, "What, the world is going to end....again?"

Which is a big part of the reason authors create these complex, really interesting worlds, write a trilogy or series on it. Then never go back to it again. What happens if the readers doesn't want to leave?

For instance, Scadriel, i hope that this isn't the end...

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Video Games / Re: Fable 2 Released
« on: October 31, 2008, 03:59:34 PM »
Anyone who decides to go out and buy Fable 2--i would recommend you to pick up fallout 3 as well. ;D

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Books / Re: Children's Books Recommendations
« on: October 31, 2008, 06:31:20 AM »
When their a bit older--or seven, i guess--read to them The Last Unicorn. Its the perfect introduction to fantasy, i think.

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Books / Re: What are you reading, part 3
« on: October 31, 2008, 06:21:07 AM »
I'm 2/3 of the way through the Name of the Wind. It's completely unoriginal. Everything about it: the world, the characters, the plot setup, the magic, is based on a cliche. But it's done oh so well. The more I read, the more I think that this is the ultimate genius-orphan-boy-learns-magic-and-seeks-revenge-on-his-parents'-supernatural-killers story and that now that this book exists, there's no need for anyone to write another one ever again. It's just that good.

Haha! reached the pinnacle, huh. Name of the Wind, the ring of all the revenge seeking orphan books. Anyway, what do you think of Pats voice?

That's actually my favorite aspect of the book. He has a terribly ominous voice. The funniest part is that when i met him, i found an overly clever witted jokester, who never stopped smiling. For him to shed such a grim tone in his writings from his light hearted disposition...well, he's just awesome is what im trying to say.

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Everything Else / Re: Best Quote Lately Reincarnated
« on: October 31, 2008, 05:59:55 AM »
"Words aren't meant to be spoken but spoken to be meant."

That, i actually made up--assuming that it isn't apparent.

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Imagine the market for sports drinks. Or actually, I'm really interested in allomancer sports—they could be better than quidditch.

Hemalurgy doping for the olympics? Can't compete? Just steal someone else's power!

If there were to be a continuation for Mistborn, i could see there being allomantic sports--but only years after rebuilding. Since survival won't be so hard the people might have the luxury of boredom which would lead to the creation of sports...

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: "A" is for Atium.... *Contains Spoilers*
« on: October 29, 2008, 04:04:06 PM »
definitely should be posted in the fan art...

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Here is some line art i worked on a little today. As you can see I ran out of room on my canvas where her foot is supposed to be... so foot coming soon!! It's good to have goals! ^.^ I wanted to show her in her casual shirt and trousers. Feedback is appreciated!



I liked that i couldn't tell it was a girl until i saw those circley things on her chest...

Thats exactly what Vin would have wanted...

Also, i like how you remembered to shorten her hair...

Though she does seem a bit masculine for a girl--and the facial expresion is puzzling. I would think that if she were battling (which i assume from the coin she holds) she'd have a rough look about her--something that would look like she's thinking, "Ok, its just you and me now,"

But overall, its very good--much better than anything i could ever produce! Bravo!

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: The Mistborn Trilogy. *Spoilers*
« on: October 29, 2008, 04:12:11 AM »
Chaos brings up a good point. Approach the question with the prospective of how you liked each book as an individual--and not what it did for the trilogy as a whole...

If that were the question, than Fe would be the least significant--since defeating TLR was the primary problem in it, and such a negligible piece in the book...

If that were the question, I think we'd all agree that HOA is at the top of the list...


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Brandon Sanderson / Re: The Mistborn Trilogy. *Spoilers*
« on: October 28, 2008, 08:59:40 PM »
Elmandr, I think you mean that my writing still is just imbued with life force. It's vibrant! (Yay, the sub-text in those two sentences!)

I think one of the reasons why I didn't like Well of Ascension as much as Final Empire or Hero of Ages is because it did not really focus on the classical era of Scadriel (that is, Alendi/Kwaan/Rashek's time period). After that remarkable twist in FE, I wanted to know what the Lord Ruler's final words meant in the greatest detail. These questions about the mythology and the magic captivated me more than the notion of "what happens after the Dark Lord is defeated?" was. So, for what I wanted in the book, it definitely lagged until the koloss attacked. After that point, the book was extremely dynamic, but before that (with the exception of the scene where Vin and Zane attack the keep), it lagged a lot.

It all comes down to what you wanted with the book. Me, I wanted more of the mythology, so the ending of Well of Ascension was extremely satisfying in that regard. However, the first couple of sections in the book weren't the same sort of dynamic coolness that FE was. One of the reasons why I didn't like Zane was that he wasn't nearly as destructive as Kelsier could be. Zane seemed more like some homicidal emo than an actually cool character. Zane was remarkably well reigned-in compared with Kelsier. Zane was so conflicted, he was just "mysterious" and inactive. The character did not mesh with me at all. Knowing that he was controlled by Ruin does not make me pity him any more.

I wanted answers with mythology, you see, and Hero of Ages far surpasses Well of Ascension in that regard.


While I can see where you're coming from, I'm going to have to disagree on one point. You said that WoA didn't really touch on the classical era of Scadriel (Alendi/Kwaan/Rashek), but I think it was doubly important for a few reasons.

1) Kwaan's metal script which made up the chapter bumps were incredibly insightful into the mind of the Terrisman at that time, as well as further explore Alendi's character. We already had Alendi's first person view from the journal in FE, but now we had an outside objective source from the man who knew him better than anyone. I always read these parts and really wanted to know more about Alendi's journey.

2) It sets up Ruin's influence and starts to show us his ability to manipulate that which is not cast in steel.

3) In a way, it influenced Sazed himself into following the same path as Kwaan did with believing someone was the HoA. Obviously, like Kwaan, he realizes something is amiss, but unlike Kwaan, is too late to stop it. I found this to be an incredible character development for Sazed, for it was after this that he finally lost faith. (obviously I'm biased, since Sazed is my favorite character, and I felt like his character's journey was incredibly paced and written  :)).

As for Zane, I've found it's either a love him or leave him type situation. It is incredibly split down the middle for like/dislike of the character. I always just found him interesting. /shrug

Yes there were some things that revealed themselves in WOA but i think what chaos is trying to say is that the focus was on the rebuilding and confliction of the now TLR-less world. He did mention that the very end gave him what he was looking for, however, it was a fairly long book--i can only imagine the exasperation he felt as he read through them...

For me though, i wasn't too interested in the specifics and the clarification of the prophecies and engine behind Scadriels deterioration. I was more interseted in how the characters would get through the impossible...again.

I remember, way back when i was reading FE, thinking "This is the craziest thing...their actually gonna do this...?" (something along those lines) and i remember reading the part where the crew met to discuss what exactly they were gonna do--it seemed so dire. However, when they finally managed to overthrow TLR, it didn't feel forced or...i don't know--like somebody was sitting in a chair saying "Okay, the stories gotta end now. The lord ruler dies, every thing is dandy, the end."

It was believable. And yet it still amazed me that they did it. I don't think its coming out clearly enough. Imagine how wierd it must feel to believe something that was supposedly impossible is done--now imagine how hard it it to believe it knowing its a fictional story....

See what i mean.

I'm not sure if i'm making any sense.

Really, each book surprised me in that sense, but book one had kelsier...'nough said.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Warbreaker Hardcover Release Date
« on: October 28, 2008, 12:13:14 AM »
Too many good books coming out to read.....I need like some sort of time stasis chamber.

I have no idea what to read these days--off topic i know--but what books are you talking about exactly?

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Awards Board / Re: Holiday Name 2007
« on: October 27, 2008, 11:53:49 PM »
mine is stupid--but i love that little couplet your wrote about fellfrosch!

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Suggestions Box / Re: Tell us?
« on: October 27, 2008, 11:50:55 PM »
Be afraid...be very afraid. Perhaps it the ghosts of TWG's past....

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Suggestions Box / Re: The Writing Group Section
« on: October 27, 2008, 11:49:04 PM »
Writing groups are great!

...nobody said the weren't...*looks around confused and a bit worried*...come down there bud.

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