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Rants and Stuff / Re: Serious Politicals Discussions and stuff
« on: January 30, 2004, 07:42:41 PM »
    It is not lack of brains, it is lack of knowlage.  Remember that.  There is a difference between stupidity and ignorance.  If you plan on attacking us personally simply because we have not had the opportunity to learn that you have had, due to our age, then maybe you aren't really inteligent enough to pick on someone your own age, hmmm?

   But lets not get into that because this is supposed to be about politics.

Rants and Stuff / Re: Anti-Bush rant
« on: January 30, 2004, 07:38:50 PM »
    Oh, by the way, if you weren;t looking for a rant, why did you come to this post entitled "Anti-Bush RANT"?  I wonder.  
  Anyway, I do not know Bush personally but the way he has run the government does not strike me as a intelligent.  You all may disagree, or like what he has done in office, and you have a right to do so.  But getting into a war without the United Nations approval, killing all our friendships in the United Nations except two and losing money in the process is not an intelligent move in my books, just as an example.

Rants and Stuff / Re: Serious Politicals Discussions and stuff
« on: January 30, 2004, 07:32:59 PM »
   So when are we gonna get to the "serious disscusion" I seem to have been promised upon opening this page?  My splew on Bush seemed to turk a lot of people off because I got some stuff out that they didn't agree with, so where is the debating that you all say you love so much?  I don't mean to be rude but my rant didn't start a debate, only mud-slinging, and Onion's doesn't seem to be doing it's job so if you all love debating so much lets hear it!

Rants and Stuff / Re: Anti-Bush rant
« on: January 30, 2004, 07:19:13 PM »
     Thanks for your imput, i guess.  Oh and as for the parties and what not, I currently hold no party in favor, so whether democrats, republicans, or blue-toothed faeries voted for the patriot bill I could really care less.   What I do see going on is Bush signing the bill, and I'm not trying to say he is any more responsible than anyone else, but he is the president, and as the Onion of Death aptly explained, I do not find him to seem inteligent.  I, as you all seemed to thoroughly agree, have no facts other than what I have already spewed.  And as for any and all comments about," Why don't you give some ideas..." I would if I was running for president, but I'm not so I don't see how that is required...Sorry for ranting I'll keep it in mind in my next posts...
Significantly sorry,
Gorgon the Wonder Cow

Rants and Stuff / Re: Insanity
« on: January 30, 2004, 07:06:45 PM »
You are correct, sir, one hundred percent, to my knowlage.  Medically no one is ever just classified as insane.  But socially many a person is.  I try to fight against the social crutch of the label "insane".  And I do reconize that some people are mentally inmpared in some way, and that could classify them as insane.  However, in the tense I am attempting to use it, insane should comeacross as a reasoning for some behavior, such as crime or difference in opinion/attitde.  I was brought to think about the subject when reading an article on this site about a person recently out of a mental hospital, and I thought," Well, can they really classify him/her as insane?  I mean really, what distinctly makes a person insane.?"  If I bore you, I apologize, and if you can prove to me that insanity is not a social crutch please do so.
Gorgon the Wonder Cow

Rants and Stuff / Re: Insanity
« on: January 30, 2004, 06:51:17 PM »
   Dear Saint,
    I understand how mental conditions are created and classified, thank you very much.  My point is not supposed to be that mental and physical conditions do not occur, but the classification of "insane", as it were, should not exist.  A mental condition due to a failure of an organ is most often refered to, not to be rude in any way, retarded or impared.  The way I see it, personally, that is a huge difference to being classified as "insane".  Of coarse that's just my opinion, I could be wrong...
Gorgon the Wonder Cow

Rants and Stuff / Insanity
« on: January 30, 2004, 05:34:31 PM »
    How can it be proved that insanity is real?  In a world were everyone's opinion is supposed to be reconized, how is it possible to say," S/He is insane."  Mental diseases can not be proven to be a disease.  Perhaps illrational fears are really rational, no one can prove that a fear of arachnids or numbers shouldn't be had.  I believe that insanity is only used as a way to discriminate against people different than the average mass.  If a man goes "insane" and kills twenty people, how do we know that his murdering was illrational?  Faith?  Who among us can prove through indenyable evidence that a murder was completely illrational.  All animals, including humans, have an instict that tells us to live at all costs, just like an instinct to eat, sleep and drink.  Someone is not "insane" for listening to those insticts, and if someone feels threatened why should the populace be able to deem a man or woman insane?  Now I am not saying it is moral to kill, in any light, but I am saying insanity cannot logically be blamed.  In light of this, temperary insanity should not be a liable defense to any crime.  Hey, if a man or woman was insane to murder and you give him or her the death penalty, aren't you insane by your own standards?  Think about it...
Gorgon the Wonder Cow

Rants and Stuff / Re: Anti-Bush rant
« on: January 30, 2004, 05:04:24 PM »
     I return to my post to find it heap of flaming discussion, which is nice.  alright, to respond to each of you personally, would take forever, so I will talk to you as a whole.  You will know if I am directing my statement at you or not, or you should be a ble to figure it out.  First off, I now have, nor ever will, any economical, social, physical, or publishing connecting with  I just think the website is brilliant and everyone, Bush supporter or not, should see.  Also, if you go back to whatever website you saw a rant like this on, I assure you it will not have been me nor anyone connected to me, in my knowlage.  This is the first time I have posted anything anti-Bush on the internet.
     I respect everyone's right to post and their right to an opinion, just like I have, so anyone who thinks I posted this jsut to have my way, well you are incorrect.
     Thirdly, I completely agree with the fact that I do not, and probably never will, know Bush personally.  I do not mean I hate Bush as a person by my post.  I mean I passionately dislike the man's political policies.  
      Now to resolve the something I find to be somewhat of an issue.  I do understand how the american system of government works.  I alsoo understand that it wasn't just Bush that goofed with the patriot act.  However, Bush didn't have the sense of mind to vetoe the bill and, to the best of my knowlage, supported it all the way through (correct me if I am wrong...).  In addition, the tax breaks which you speak of did not come without a cost.  Not only did they help lead to the huge deficit we see before us, and ahead of us, but they are part of the reason the younger generations, like mine, will be paying later.  So while it may have helped you now, it hurts in the long run, and I don't count that as a positive policy, personally.  
   I do not mean to say that the other candidates wouldn't have screwed up, or that his new competition wont.  But the fact is they weren't elected so they aren't the issue anymore, Bush is.  Think about, what gives you the right to complain about how Gore or whoever else would have done to try and offset what Bush did do?  In reality nobody knows what other candidates would have done, or will do in that matter.  What seems to matter now is the hole Bush has dug, not the hole Gore, or whoever else, would have.  You and/or your countrymen ellected Bush, so don't try to slide away with a,"so-in-so would've done worse..." because you don't know that.
    In a closing statement, I don't know what I would do as president, senior sarcastic, that's why I didn't tun.  Well that and the age requirement.
Thanks for the replies, keep 'em comin',
Gorgon the Wonder Cow

Rants and Stuff / Anti-Bush rant
« on: January 29, 2004, 09:31:49 PM »
     A) You must check out the above website.  Period.
     B) If you enjoy my "rant" please E-mail me at... [email protected]  Also E-mail me if you don't enjoy it.  I have no qualms towards this, or any other act of indisgretion (other than virusing, if you do you will pay.  Put "Bush Rant" as your subject so I do not delete your E-Mail.  Enjoy.
      I hate Bush.  Neigh, I, personally, despise Bush Jr.  The world hates Bush.  There is no reason to like Bush.  Seriously.  Think about it.  What could make you like Bush?  Everyone HATES Bush for many a reason, being ranged from his " Leave no billionaire behind" type attitude to his war in Iraq, especially to the fact that he took the largest surplus in american history and made it the largest deficit in american history.  He has achieved nothing positive for the common american in his presidency.  He has a disgraceful attitude towards AMerica and the american way of life.  Nothing is safe, not your money, not your morals, not you allies in the United Nations.  Not even your civil liberties given to us by our forefathers!  When will america had better learn fast, Bush needs to go.

     What do I despise most about Bush?  I have no hate which is greater than another.  His disregard for my family, my community and my country is disgraceful and offensive.  He cares so little he took more vacations than any other president in american history.  He cares so little about the common man he is not only willing to pass an act that takes away our liberties, rights such as trial, knowlage of your prosecution, and legal defense, but he has the audacity to name it the patriot act.  The men and women who fight for this country, fought for this country and founded this country, the true patriots of our heritage, the soldiers who gave their lives for service to save future generations, do not deserve to be disparaged by having a law named after them that takes away everything they fought for.

     Bush can't even make up his mind about his own actions.  He pulled money from his own educational program to pay for the war in Iraq in addition to other things that much of this glorious nation dislikes.  He is pulling money out of children's pockets to pay for his deficit and to help the billionaires along.  Now, don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the rich.  Good for them, they got up in this dog-eat-dog world, overcame the social darwinism and got their money.  But if you have enough money to last your lifetime and the lives of your children's children, you don't need to scam Children out of their future money.  In addition, if you are a president for billionaires, don't pull the future hard-earned paychecks out of the defenseless.  Just because we can't vote does not mean we can be pushed over.  The country knows of your mental corruption Bush, and the little people are who matter here.  

     I need to go do homework...I will add on to my lecture by the second of feburary this glorious election year for anyone who is interested.  

Weapons of mass destruction my butt
UN and our two remaining friends
Unkept Promises
and more...
Gorgon the Wonder Cow

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