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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Most people say Kelsier wrong
« on: December 23, 2009, 06:50:25 AM »
Hm. I always say Sah - zed. (A as in hat, and I pronounce the e).

I realized I was wrong once I saw his nickname, but didn't care enough to fix my pronunciation.

And the whole thing with Voldemort makes sense, but it seems really weird without the t.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: So, Hoid was there when what happened?
« on: December 23, 2009, 06:45:33 AM »
I can confirm what Chris said about Hoid being there when Adonalsium was shattered (in case anyone didn't believe him, which would be kind of dumb), since Brandon later mentioned that to me as well.

My personal pet theory is that Hoid is working against Adonalsium being reunited - I mean it seems to me that he was working very much against Ruin and Preservation both in the Mistborn series, though he did kind of end up helping Preservation in the long run.

Which also lends itself to the theory that Hoid actually shattered Adonalsium. Which would just be epically awesome (is that a word - epically? - It is now)

Anyway, my two cents, though I admit I have no real basis for them.

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Rants and Stuff / Re: Final Elections for the New Hero of Ages
« on: December 23, 2009, 06:30:21 AM »
Wow. This is sad.

Oh, and wilson, please stop talking about your true names. It makes me think of Eragon, which is not a pleasant thing to think about.

Besides, I'm officially throwing my lot in for Zas, and since I also have divine powers by virtue of being awesome (I'm not omniscient or omnipotent, Kaz, but I have something even better - see if Chaos in his "Omniscience" can figure that one out...), my vote tips the scale in favor of Zas over Chaos, who only ever really had one vote anyway (Yes, himself. His mother might have voted for him if she were a forum-going type person...which i say with absolutely no knowledge of his mother except that she's not on TWG, so far as I am aware), which can hardly count as real competition.

So even if sort comes back and votes against Zas, he still has a majority and therefore wins.

Oh, and apparently Hoid was there when Andonalsium was shattered, so I'm not really sure that the Shards have all that much influence on who is Hoid anyway (since he did come before them - also, I think you might have just elected your own competition (Hoid seems to be bound to a shard) which is pretty ironic).

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Reading Excuses / Re: Email List + Submission Dates
« on: December 19, 2009, 09:44:34 PM »
I'm not. College Applications are eating my life. Hopefully I'll have something by next week, because this week is my last in school (no, I'm not on break already. Sad, isn't it?), and I'll have a bit more time after that. Though granted, I'll probably be forcing applications out the door for a while yet.

Anyway, I'll probably pull a Silk on you all at that point and catch up on my critiquing too.

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Thanks for the comments everybody. There are several issues that you mentioned that will get fixed, but I'm currently still  giddy because I actually managed to accomplish what I wanted to do with this chapter. Now I just need to fix all of the problems that popped up as a result of that, which shouldn't be too terribly difficult to do. As Cynic put it, whip out the machete and get to work on it.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Anyone have questions for Brandon?
« on: December 19, 2009, 08:58:43 PM »
It's now one, so miyabi may have left, but I'm planning on going over a little later. You guys can continue to post questions until about three, if you are so inclined, and I'll ask them.

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Rants and Stuff / Re: Seriously. Why are you on in the middle of the night.
« on: December 17, 2009, 01:22:00 AM »
What's considered the middle of the night? Because I think that the earliest I've ever been on is 6:30 ish AM and the latest I've ever been on is about 1:30 ish AM.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Most people say Kelsier wrong
« on: December 16, 2009, 06:11:19 AM »
Is it "Scadrial," with an a? I had always thought it was "Scadriel." Guess that's a result of early spelling ideas we had, before official spelling was available.

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Rants and Stuff / Re: Final Elections for the New Hero of Ages
« on: December 16, 2009, 06:08:38 AM »
Well if we're going entirely on long-windedness, Chaos should probably be Hoid. Not that we want to open that can of worms up again....

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Thanks for the comments. Most of the problems with Aedon's opinions on Lenalt happened in the revision of the revision, when Lenalt suddenly became much more competent than he had been before, but also more insecure (because of the issues with the magi being too powerful you were describing). Essentially, I was having trouble conveying the right attitudes. Aedon basically thinks that in military matters, Lenalt is a brilliant commander, but he annoys him to death as a person, and he's really annoyed at Lenalt's insecurity with magi. (Yes, I know this was kind of written weirdly, but the intent was to convey these attitudes. I just didn't really do it very well. At all)

And yes, there are problems with the numbers. I just started whipping out numbers left and right. Hmmmm. Forty-three forts. (there should probably be around eleven or twelve at most, based on my map that I have). 15k per fort (once again, too high). Then I got to the end, where I put the 650k, and just did the multiplication. That was the point when I realized that there were some serious issues with the numbers, but I was too lazy to go back and change them. So this isn't me being totally ignorant, just not really paying attention at first, then not going back to change it. (My numbers that I actually had initially planned out are apparently too high as well, though, since I had actually planned to have Aedon have around 50-60k soldiers, with around 500 Deviators. That's going to be changing a bit, now, which, ironically enough, should also help with your issues with mages. I think part of the problem too is that all of my viewpoint characters are mages, who associate with mages, and as such it makes it seem like everybody is a mage. I'm hoping that when you run into a few more characters who aren't mages, or when my characters go to places where no one is a mage, you'll like this a bit more. So hang on for a bit)

I'll get more into how regular soldiers are used, and why you can't just use a ton of magi (though most of the action in this book does heavily involve magi) a little bit later, so don't give up hope yet. I probably do need to make it clear in this chapter though that magi are not, in fact, all powerful, and that having them doesn't automatically make your forces win.

Aedon does say several things that are kind of chumpy. I'm actually really glad that you don't like him/are annoyed by him. This is sort of the reaction I want about Aedon (at least a little bit). However, my concern is that it's TOO much, ie, you'll read it and go, this guy is such a typical villain. I know exactly what's going to happen. I'm not even going to bother reading the rest of the story. This guy is just too annoying to me. That, or that you'll think he's incompetent, which he's not, far from it.

He should be slightly less painful to read in his next viewpoint, because I'll have a bit more time to make sure I get his opinions on various things straight between now and then.

As to the whole power level thing, I find it funny, because I actually do have a ranking chart of all my magi (though it's based on who would beat who in a fight, based on pure skill and the various things they know how to do with Deviation that others don't). Although, Aedon isn't quite ranked 1,000,000. I put him at 100. Also, I did mention that he was more powerful than the other chaosmagi a few too many times.

Your issues with the scene with Aedon killing Veia stem largely from me knowing things that you don't that you probably should know, and so should Aedon though in this scene's internal thought, he doesn't. Like the fact that there are about 20 Chaosmagi (or at least there were, and that might be changing), and 16 of them are completely and totally loyal to Aedon. 2, He doesn't know where they stand (but they're too cautious to openly confront him like this), and 2 (the ones mentioned) openly dislike him. He's actually been trying to find an excuse to kill these two for a while. Not really sure why I didn't put that in there, since without it it comes across as him just being kind of chumpy:).

The sword - yes. You are right. I don't know why Aedon doesn't just Deviate to take off the guy's head. Faster and more effective. In fact, I'm pretty sure I was thinking as though Aedon was not in fact a Deviator for a while. It also may have been an attempt to show that Lenalt was still around (I had a couple of those, and I wrote this last week, so I don't actually remember which ones were which).

Moving way back to conventional warfare vs magical, there is a reason to have walls, even though magi can take them out. This is a failure on my part, as I totally failed to have Aedon react to it, but he should be somewhat surprised and or shocked that the Kreala were able to take out the walls. I'm not sure if I'll eventually explain that here or not, but you'll get an explanation in an upcoming chapter, so I'll leave it at that for now.

Lastly, on the issue of you being mean, you're not. You're being constructive. These are actually some of the best comments I've had so far, because they tell me exactly what I did wrong and what I managed to pull off the way I wanted too (though some of that was completely unintentional on your part :)). Don't worry about hurting my feelings (as I've mentioned before, I have none), I actually really appreciate your post.

And I'm glad you feel the writing is better than last submission's. I would be very sad if you didn't (but I would still want you to tell me).

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Stormlight Archive Fansite: Roshar.net
« on: December 16, 2009, 12:49:57 AM »
I now have another site to watch.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Way of Kings concept art
« on: December 16, 2009, 12:48:08 AM »
Besides, on the non-lurking thing, recall that we were all lowly peasants once too. You cannot advance without posting, and topics are even better, as they lead to more posting.

Besides, I've missed the ridiculous speculations that used to go on around here. I remember when we would develop theories that we were dead set on, and Ook would laugh at us, and it was just buckets of fun for everybody!

Ahem. Yes. The art that is there looks quite awesome. This makes me sad that I did not attend the signing.

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Reading Excuses / December 14 - Andrew the Great - Lawless Ch 3 (Revision)
« on: December 15, 2009, 05:05:09 AM »
Ok, I think I've mentioned this before, but over the past two weeks, I've done some major revision and outlining for my story. It's been in a flux, with all sorts of things changing, but I think it's now stable, with a better than ever plot.

However, two weeks ago, I submitted a very rough chapter 3. Very rough. And so now, because it was so very rough, and because of the fact that Aedon's (whose viewpoint ch 3 is) entire storyline got drastically altered, I am submitting the revised chapter 3, which is actually the new chapter 3, because it has pretty much nothing to do with the other chapter 3, except for the war that was mentioned there before. Pretty much anything else that you may have picked up in that version of ch 3 can be completely disregarded, because it's probably wrong.

Summary up to this point (It changed a little on the rewrite, but not enough for me to resubmit those chapters. Especially since I haven't rewritten them yet):

Chapter 1: Khyus
Khyus is framed for destroying the property of most of the merchants in a village near his place of residence. He runs away to avoid being whipped, and in the process accidentally kills four men. He is abducted by a mysterious mage, who reveals that he set Khyus up and give Khyus the option of either coming with him or being killed on the spot. Khyus decides to go with the mage, who reveals that his name is Quinn.

Chapter 2: Khyus
Quinn and Khyus have a discussion about Deviation, the magic system which both Khyus and Quinn can use. Various lessons ensue. Khyus also runs into a room full of mysterious objects made out of bone. Khyus explores, and worries about Quinn's motivations for abducting him. There are several important things discussed in this chapter, but I really can't bring them up without giving away a lot for future chapters, and they're mostly hidden in internal thoughts.

Chapter 3: Aedon
What you are reading now. I personally think that it came out much better than the last chapter three, but then that shouldn't be difficult. I hope so, anyway.

Next Up: Quinn, who is ridiculously fun to write.

I should also mention that understanding Deviation is pretty important to the plot at some points. If people haven't read the earlier chapters and want to join later on, I can give you a fairly detailed summary of what you know so far on that as well.

As always, thanks for any comments!

Andrew

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Writing Group / Re: NaNoWriMo?
« on: December 15, 2009, 02:18:03 AM »
Ah. Got it. That's pretty awesome.

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Rants and Stuff / Re: These Stupid Titles IX: Still Without a Title
« on: December 15, 2009, 01:41:49 AM »
Indeed.

Wilson - I'm thinking about it, and I seem to remember somebody being a failed spell test subject, so I'd guess that's it.

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