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Writing Group / Re: lets talk revision
« on: December 04, 2007, 09:49:25 AM »
I'm not finished with writing yet, but once I am, I'll probably have a very loose finger on the delete button. That's all I can say :P

Oh, and I'll leave it untouched for a month because Stephen King said you should. Killing your babies gets easier. (Will give me the strength to cut out my "funny" Lord of the Rings references.)

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Writing Group / Re: NaNoWriMo 2007
« on: November 28, 2007, 11:10:53 AM »
Wow, that must suck... I hope all goes well!

Interesting tidbit of trivia: Did you know that the Swiss actually have their own (lame, watered down) version of NaNoWriMo? It's called "Novemberschreiben", which translates roughly to "November writing". Beginners only have to do 25'000 words, which is way too easy. Even if you're not a beginner, you still get a silver medal for 25k and a bronze medal for 10k. NaNoWriMo is so much more hardcore, don't you think?  ;D

Mmmh... gonna break the 80'000 mark today, woohoo!

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Everything Else / Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
« on: November 22, 2007, 11:53:41 PM »
We don't have thanksgiving in Switzerland, but happy days to all of you anyway!

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Books / Re: column: EUOLogy: On Pullman and Censorship
« on: November 20, 2007, 07:47:48 AM »
I was with you all the way there until you said "priveledge of self-expression" in the end. I can see that not all children might be smart enough to understand what they're doing and that not all parents might understand their children well enough. I understand that things some things aren't appropriate for everybody, but saying that somebody who offends people "deserves" censorship is just wrong. The difference between the things we censor at public schools and between the books should be obvious. Nobody forces anybody to read books. In public schools, everybody is forced to be confronted with these things, I say there's a huge difference.

If people are too stupid not to understand that something they or they children read might prove to be offensive, then how on earth is that the authors fault? There are millions of people and a million of ways to offend. Maybe having one of your characters die of cancer offends somebody who's aunt died of it, maybe if you have a black dog in it as a talking animal companion you'll offend somebody who's kid has been bitten to death by a similar (but not talking) black dog.

There's no way to know, and as silly as this might sound to you: Maybe Pullman wasn't trying to offend at all. You can be openly against religion without trying to offend anybody or "stir the pot", as strange as that may seem, just as you can be openly for religion without being a religious fanatics. If we start censoring the voices that go against religion, we might as well go and start censoring the bible for the same reason, for expressing an opinion. (Though I think that's a bad example, because IIRC that's already been done, texts left out and such... anyway, I hope the idea is clear at least.)

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Books / Re: column: EUOLogy: On Pullman and Censorship
« on: November 19, 2007, 07:50:36 PM »
I would actually say that there's some content that you could easily flag as "inappropriate" in Pullman's novels. There's philosophy and things in there that are pretty complicated and the fights can get quite cruel. Then there's the thing with the knife and the bleeding fingers... I mean...  even I was pretty grossed out when I read that stuff.

But I would at the same time say that we shouldn't underestimate children. They understand a lot more than most of us adults would give them credit for and they're quite able to deal with the harsh reality that so many parents try to "protect" them from.

As a ten year old, I loved playing Duke Nukem. It was a lot of fun, but rated R. I knew that what I saw in the game wasn't real and that it was just like the movies on TV, which also weren't real. There wasn't ever any actual problem with me not understanding the boundaries between fiction and reality. When there are children who get influenced by fiction in such a strong way, I don't think the movies should be to blame, it's something their parents need to teach them.

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Books / Re: column: EUOLogy: On Pullman and Censorship
« on: November 19, 2007, 03:34:58 PM »
It makes sense. Aggressive voices are the strongest after all. Nobody really wants to hear about what the people in the middle think. Powerful ideas are the things that draw attention and that are the most interesting to discuss, be they true or not. Finding compromises has never been humanity's strong point...

Oh, and as a heads up: I don't think you intended it like that, but equating being a nazi and being somebody who attends gay orgies in the same sentence kind of rubs me the wrong way. I'm not saying that I think you believe those things are the same, it's just a heads up for future write-ups. It's easy to see what you intended, but it's even easier to get the wrong idea.


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Writing Group / Re: NaNoWriMo 2007
« on: November 19, 2007, 07:54:19 AM »
It's pretty simple: No more computer games or social life. Now if I could get rid of the internet and school, I'd be at 80k already :P

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Writing Group / Re: NaNoWriMo 2007
« on: November 17, 2007, 09:44:33 PM »
Hooray, I just typed myself past Brandon! Though he's been stagnant for a while now because his thing is already finished... mine will take me somewhere in the 90'000 range and that's still a long way off. Good luck to you all, see you on the other end of the magical 50k!

Edit: Aaaand! I win! Hooray me! Go me! Go me! ^^

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Books / Re: column: EUOLogy: On Pullman and Censorship
« on: November 17, 2007, 05:27:02 PM »
I've got to say, that's a very interesting article. I myself come from a background that's actually pretty similar to Pullman's from what I read there. (and in the other articles linked) And I wouldn't have thought that such ideas could still offend people in such a huge way. I mean, I knew that there were puritans and some singular voices, but I thought those kept themselves to their farming cities where there aren't any cinemas to begin with. More and more I'm getting to realize that there's still whole countries reacting in such a strong way, and that scares me a little.

I'd like to thank EUOL for proving that there are reasonable voices on the other side of the fence as well. Most I've seen up to now was just rabble-rousing, and after a while that makes it pretty easy to feel contempt for some people that might not deserve it. It's easy to feel superior if your opponent proves himself to be stupid again and again, and the whole discussion becomes a meaningless conflict of egos, nothing more besides that.

Making informed decisions will always be important. I can live with other people who decide to believe in something different than I do, but if they just shut themselves off and don't listen to anything that might be in conflict with their believes, I really have a hard time taking them seriously.

I myself am very happy that the Pullman books are making the jump to the big screen and I really didn't see all that much religiously controversial material inside them to begin with. The Lucifer comics recently vilified god a lot more than anything else I've ever seen, and I haven't much controversy coming from those. His Dark Materials is tame in comparison to that. Anyway, I can't wait for some armoured bear action!

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Site News / Re: Introduce yourself - right on!
« on: November 16, 2007, 04:57:30 PM »
Hello there!

Name's Fabian Trunz, howdy, nice to meet you! I'm not an annoying person!

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Right. This seems like a nice place with nice people, so I'll probably be looking around here every now and again. I just started a Blog at http://fabiantrunz.blogspot.com/ and there's a little bit more about me already written there. Not much content yet, though, but I plan on rectifying that on an at least semi daily basis.

Got here, of course, because of Mr. Sanderson. A post from the NaNoWriMo forums made me become intrigued because it was so overflowing with such a horrendously huge amount of useful information. I hope to be learning a lot from all of you and thanks for having me!

Sincerely yours
FTH

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Writing Group / Re: NaNoWriMo 2007
« on: November 16, 2007, 07:56:38 AM »
Hehe, I actually got here from the NaNo site. (Brandon has/had a big "Ask a Pro" thread on the Fantasy forums and it's been the most useful thing I found there so far. Kudos! I can't find it anymore right now, though... the mods must've moved it... again...) Basically, NaNo is my first contact with the author world and it's been an eye-opener, let me tell you :P

It took me from my "it'll be fine, you'll get published some day" attitude to changing my word goal for this month to 90k. 50k for every following month. And I'm planning to edit those too. Right now I'm some thousand words behind the 90k goal. Well, at least there's no doubt I'll be making the NaNo goal :P

You guys seem like a nice lot, so I hope you won't mind if I "hang out" here a bit from now on. I'll try and keep myself from posting solely on his board and sucking up to Brandon to get writing tips, but I make no promises.  ;)

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Elend in German
« on: November 15, 2007, 02:34:43 PM »
It would. I'm usually proud of myself for telling the truth. I don't like to be embarrassed in front of myself :P

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Elend in German
« on: November 14, 2007, 06:48:04 PM »
Nooo! No -ly's! No adverbs!

Hee, but yes, pretty much. Though the translation wouldn't work as directly as that. "Einen Knoten straff ziehen/anziehen/machen" would be "To make a knot tighter" or "To tighten a knot." I don't think you can "Tighten a knot tightly" in German. "Eine Knoten binden", would work, but "Einen Knoten straff binden" sounds weird.

You can  have "Straffe Lederhosen." Maybe that makes more sense  ;D

Edit: Noticed I posted a lot of garbage. Hope it's fixed now.  My fault for not learning English by translating from German, but by doing. It's more of a native language to me than one I learnt at school, so that makes it harder to translate stuff somehow. I seriously couldn't think of the German word for "tying." My brain just didn't make the connection. This is so embarrassing... :P

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Elend in German
« on: November 14, 2007, 05:48:00 PM »
German native speaker here to tell you that Tage is a liar!
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Okay, so he's not, but he still got it wrong. (God I can be smug if I want to be  ;D)

The word he's talking about would be "bestrafen", with one f. Doesn't have anything to do with "straff" at all. "Straff" means "tight", "tightly" (we Germans don't usually do adverbs, so it's kind of the same thing) or "firm". You usually use it for ropes.

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