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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Inside Cover Artwork in WoK
« on: October 07, 2010, 02:12:12 PM »
Look here:

http://stormlightarchive.wikia.com/wiki/

under photos.  I think the only one missing is an inside back cover.  I have a low rez one but don't have the book avail to scan it in again.

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i think the shardblades have been "sullied" in some way since they're no longer for fighting the voidwalkers, they've been used to kill humans.  that might explain the repulsion

I like this theory.  It fits with the very clear message that human kind destroyed iteslf, ruining the radiants until they could take no more and walked away.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Spren - (Major Spoilers TWoK)
« on: October 05, 2010, 12:05:12 PM »
Well, we know that only two orders had inherent Soulcasting ability.  Also, we can expect that one of those is the Garnet, since that's what Shallan's focus seemse to be.  I'd be inclined to say Smokestone as the other one because of Jasnah, but none of the small circles connect to both Garnet and Smokestone.  But, interestingly enough, there is a line connecting the two, it just doesn't connect to one of the small circles.  What's the connection there?

Jasnah's herald / order is Palah / Emerald.  Both because Palah appears in Jasnah's chapters (see the thread on Heralds in chapter titles) and because Palah is Learned/Giving which clearly describes Jasnah.  In another thread Peter points out that the attributes for Nan and Palah are wrong and are swapped in the ars arcanum.

There *is* a small circle connecting garnet and emerald which I highlighted in my graphic above as soulcasting.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Herald Chapter Pictures--Identities *spoilers*
« on: October 04, 2010, 06:04:33 PM »
Sweet. It's a stretch, but there are also ten countries on the map next to it, vaguely set up like the Heralds on the first map. any connections?

I don't *think* so.  However your comment made me think of the background of the picture which looks like two dragons mirrored but also reminds me of the cymatic drawings of the towns.  Could the background be the shape of the city of Urithiru?  *wild speculation*


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Brandon Sanderson / Re: WOK Spoilers: Parshmen
« on: October 04, 2010, 02:43:24 PM »
Semi-bump as this is a good thread.

How does all of this fit in to the cause of the war itself?  I like the idea that the parshmen and chasmfiends are related (there's just way too much similarity in the way their bodies / shells are described) AND that they relate to the "orders" of voidbringers including thunderclasts somehow (after all, just look at the back cover and the ars arcanum which infer that there is a lot more to the voidbringers that meets the eye). 

There are many hints in the flashbacks of when G and D first meet the parshendi BUT I haven't been able to tease out a theory that makes sense...

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Gavilier (spoiler)
« on: October 04, 2010, 02:29:30 PM »
Doubt there is a tradition since Gavilar is the second (third?) king!

This is a good catch as this detail wouldn't have been missed by Brandon...

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Spren - (Major Spoilers TWoK)
« on: October 04, 2010, 02:01:25 PM »
The picture above is of the back cover not the front cover.  I think the back cover may correspond to the voidbringers as opposed to the heralds!  Notice how the symbols don't "quite" match up...

Take a look here.  I've mapped the heralds with their colors and symbols.  I'm pretty sure they are right as the correspond to all information we have including the decals of the symbols available from Brandon's website.

I then guessed and put in soulcasting, given that we know Jasnah and Shallan can both do it, differently.

http://stormlightarchive.wikia.com/wiki/File:Heralds.jpg

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Herald Chapter Pictures--Identities *spoilers*
« on: October 04, 2010, 01:58:13 PM »
Also I copied the inside cover to use to identify the symbol/color/picture for each Herald for easier reference and identified soulcasting since that's the one we know must be shared between Jasnah and Shallan.

http://stormlightarchive.wikia.com/wiki/File:Heralds.jpg

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Herald Chapter Pictures--Identities *spoilers*
« on: October 04, 2010, 12:50:36 PM »
I've finished a first cut of all chapters and highlighted any strange heralds (as compared to the plot of each chapter).  Please take a look and improve!

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Herald Chapter Pictures--Identities *spoilers*
« on: September 30, 2010, 07:58:13 PM »
It's up on the stormlight archive wiki.  It's a bit big and unwieldy as I merged in some other info I found to speed the analysis but it should work.

http://stormlightarchive.wikia.com/wiki/Heralds_in_Chapter_Titles

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Herald Chapter Pictures--Identities *spoilers*
« on: September 30, 2010, 02:47:48 PM »
Yup.  I'm working on it.  Really though it'd be great if there were a wiki here to contribute to so we could all analyze it together. 

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Herald Chapter Pictures--Identities *spoilers*
« on: September 30, 2010, 02:09:40 PM »
Hi all!  First post here.  I figured I'd post my table that maps each chapter's heralds to attributes (thanks to work in this thread!).  I'm using it to analyze each chapter. 

(sorry for the format it seems I can't post html tables)

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Chapter   Symbol   Herald Name 1   Attribute 1   Attribute 2   Herald Name 2   Attribute 1   Attribute 2
Prologue   Szeth   Jezrien   Protecting   Leading   Jezrien   Protecting   Leading
1   Kaladin   Talenelat   Dependable   Resourceful   Talenelat   Dependable   Resourceful
2   Kaladin   Vev   Loving   Healing   Vev   Loving   Healing
3   Shallan   Shalash   Creative   Honest   Shalash   Creative   Honest
4   Shallan   Ishar   Pious   Guiding   Ishar   Pious   Guiding
5   Shallan   Palah?   Learned   Giving   Palah?   Learned   Giving
6   Kaladin   Talenelat   Dependable   Resourceful   Talenelat   Dependable   Resourceful
7   Shallan   Ishar   Pious   Guiding   Ishar   Pious   Guiding
8   Shallan   Palah?   Learned   Giving   Palah?   Learned   Giving
9   Kaladin   Nalan   Just   Confident   Nalan   Just   Confident
10   Kaladin   Vev   Loving   Healing   Vev   Loving   Healing
11   Kaladin   Jezrien   Protecting   Leading   Jezrien   Protecting   Leading
I-1   Almighty   Hoid   ?   ?   Hoid   ?   ?
I-2   Almighty   Kalak/Kelek   Resolute   Builder   Kalak/Kelek   Resolute   Builder
I-3   Szeth   Shalash   Creative   Honest   Shalash   Creative   Honest
12   Dalinar   Hoid   ?   ?   Jezrien   Protecting   Leading
13   Dalinar   Jezrien   Protecting   Leading   Chach?   Brave   Obedient
14   Kaladin   Kalak/Kelek   Resolute   Builder   Jezrien   Protecting   Leading
15   Dalinar   Chach?   Brave   Obedient   Jezrien   Protecting   Leading
16   Kaladin   Talenelat   Dependable   Resourceful   Vev   Loving   Healing
17   Kaladin   Vev   Loving   Healing   Talenelat   Dependable   Resourceful
18   Dalinar   Betab?   Wise   Careful   Betab?   Wise   Careful
19   Dalinar   Vev   Loving   Healing   Jezrien   Protecting   Leading
20   Kaladin   Vev   Loving   Healing   Vev   Loving   Healing
21   Kaladin   Vev   Loving   Healing   Talenelat   Dependable   Resourceful
22   Dalinar   Hoid   ?   ?   Kalak/Kelek   Resolute   Builder
23   Kaladin   Ishar   Pious   Guiding   Vev   Loving   Healing
24   Dalinar   Jezrien   Protecting   Leading   Chach?   Brave   Obedient
25   Kaladin   Betab?   Wise   Careful   Nalan   Just   Confident
26   Dalinar   Jezrien   Protecting   Leading   Talenelat   Dependable   Resourceful
27   Kaladin   Vev   Loving   Healing   Talenelat   Dependable   Resourceful
28   Dalinar   Palah?   Learned   Giving   Jezrien   Protecting   Leading
I-4   Almighty   Betab?   Wise   Careful   Betab?   Wise   Careful
I-5   Almighty   Palah?   Learned   Giving   Palah?   Learned   Giving
I-6   Szeth   Nalan   Just   Confident   Nalan   Just   Confident
29   Shallan   Shalash   Creative   Honest   Palah?   Learned   Giving
30   Kaladin   Vev   Loving   Healing   Talenelat   Dependable   Resourceful
31   Kaladin   Chach?   Brave   Obedient   Vev   Loving   Healing
32   Kaladin   Nalan   Just   Confident   Talenelat   Dependable   Resourceful
33   Shallan   Ishar   Pious   Guiding   Palah?   Learned   Giving
34   Kaladin   Jezrien   Protecting   Leading   Nalan   Just   Confident
35   Kaladin   Jezrien   Protecting   Leading   Jezrien   Protecting   Leading
36   Shallan   Vev   Loving   Healing   Palah?   Learned   Giving
37   Kaladin   Palah?   Learned   Giving   Vev   Loving   Healing
38   Kaladin   Jezrien   Protecting   Leading   Vev   Loving   Healing
39   Shallan   Nalan   Just   Confident   Shalash   Creative   Honest
40   Kaladin   Kalak/Kelek   Resolute   Builder   Talenelat   Dependable   Resourceful
41   Kaladin   Nalan   Just   Confident   Vev   Loving   Healing
42   Shallan   Palah?   Learned   Giving   Ishar   Pious   Guiding
43   Kaladin   Talenelat   Dependable   Resourceful   Talenelat   Dependable   Resourceful
44   Kaladin   Talenelat   Dependable   Resourceful   Vev   Loving   Healing
45   Shallan   Shalash   Creative   Honest   Palah?   Learned   Giving
46   Kaladin   Chach?   Brave   Obedient   Jezrien   Protecting   Leading
47   Kaladin   Nalan   Just   Confident   Talenelat   Dependable   Resourceful
48   Shallan   Ishar   Pious   Guiding   Ishar   Pious   Guiding
49   Kaladin   Kalak/Kelek   Resolute   Builder   Talenelat   Dependable   Resourceful
50   Shallan   Vev   Loving   Healing   Vev   Loving   Healing
51   Kaladin   Nalan   Just   Confident   Nalan   Just   Confident
I-7   Almighty   Shalash   Creative   Honest   Shalash   Creative   Honest
I-8   Almighty   Palah?   Learned   Giving   Palah?   Learned   Giving
I-9   Szeth   Nalan   Just   Confident   Jezrien   Protecting   Leading
52   Dalinar   Talenelat   Dependable   Resourceful   Jezrien   Protecting   Leading
53   Kaladin   Vev   Loving   Healing   Vev   Loving   Healing
54   Dalinar   Nalan   Just   Confident   Hoid   ?   ?
55   Kaladin   Jezrien   Protecting   Leading   Talenelat   Dependable   Resourceful
56   Dalinar   Chach?   Brave   Obedient   Jezrien   Protecting   Leading
57   Kaladin   Jezrien   Protecting   Leading   Hoid   ?   ?
58   Dalinar   Betab?   Wise   Careful   Jezrien   Protecting   Leading
59   Kaladin   Jezrien   Protecting   Leading   Kalak/Kelek   Resolute   Builder
60   Dalinar   Palah?   Learned   Giving   Jezrien   Protecting   Leading
61   Dalinar   Kalak/Kelek   Resolute   Builder   Talenelat   Dependable   Resourceful
62   Kaladin   Vev   Loving   Healing   Talenelat   Dependable   Resourceful
63   Kaladin   Chach?   Brave   Obedient   Kalak/Kelek   Resolute   Builder
64   Dalinar   Betab?   Wise   Careful   Talenelat   Dependable   Resourceful
65   Dalinar   Nalan   Just   Confident   Chach?   Brave   Obedient
66   Dalinar   Nalan   Just   Confident   Vev   Loving   Healing
67   Kaladin   Jezrien   Protecting   Leading   Jezrien   Protecting   Leading
68   Dalinar   Betab?   Wise   Careful   Chach?   Brave   Obedient
69   Dalinar   Nalan   Just   Confident   Shalash   Creative   Honest
70   Shallan   Betab?   Wise   Careful   Shalash   Creative   Honest
71   Szeth   Nalan   Just   Confident   Vev   Loving   Healing
72   Shallan   Palah?   Learned   Giving   Palah?   Learned   Giving
73   Kaladin   Vev   Loving   Healing   Jezrien   Protecting   Leading
74   Shallan   Ishar   Pious   Guiding   Palah?   Learned   Giving
75   Dalinar   Jezrien   Protecting   Leading   Jezrien   Protecting   Leading
Epilogue   Almighty   Talenelat   Dependable   Resourceful   Hoid   ?   ?

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