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Brandon Sanderson / Re: WoK: Spren and Hoid (spoilers)
« on: September 12, 2010, 08:13:28 AM »
The Spren are definitely something that I was greatly excited yet dissapointed at in this book.  They are mentioned all the time and we still have no friggin idea what exactly they are.  We have conjecture, but Brandon did not do an excellent job of explaining them IMO with the converastions between Syl and Kaladin.   Maybe he wants to leave more open ended questions about them because they are going to be a bigger part of the plotline, but the whole time I am reading the book I just want to know more about the spren.

Also, why do you think Syl was revolted by the Shardblades?  She really had a dislike of the Shardblades at the end of the book

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: WoK: Spren and Hoid (spoilers)
« on: September 11, 2010, 07:36:53 PM »
Quote from: Rhuan on September 11, 2010, 10:49:04 AM
I assumed that all of the death quotes that say "collected on..." were from people being murdered by Taravangian and his "healers".

No they mentioned that it happens to some people on the shattered plains when they die as well and Jasnah mentioned that she is noticing it as well.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: WoK: Spren and Hoid (spoilers)
« on: September 11, 2010, 09:01:23 AM »
Oh and one last thing.  Is This book tied in any other ways to Brandon Sanderson's other books, other than just Hoid.

Give me some examples.  I think I need to read those as well, to get a better understanding of this book.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: WoK: Spren and Hoid (spoilers)
« on: September 11, 2010, 08:57:09 AM »
Quote from: RicksterBLM on September 09, 2010, 09:31:32 PM
as for the Spren,  if you look at the back of the book there's a table describing the 10 virtues, they're associated spren, and the kind of power that comes with it.  There's probably a very good reason Vorinism pushes people to choose a virtue and excel at it since it was more likely to attract a spren and therefore towards becoming a Radiant.

I'm going to guess that when the Radiants betrayed everyone, the Spren stopped bonding with people (or the Spren gave up on the Radiants causing them to lash out and betray everyone?).  Either way, net result, no more radiants.  Spren seem to become more aware the longer they become attached to a person (as seen by Syl) and then go back to being mindless after that.

So if this theory is correct than that is exatly what Furies are before they were bonded to Alerans.  In the Last book for Codex alera "First Lord's Fury"  Alera explained that she was one of the first Furies to bond to a human and was not interested in human kind whatsoever, but sort of became intrigued with Alerans over time, and began lending wisdom of furies to Alerans (she in fact does not bond with anyone but, lends her assistance to the House of Gaius which is a whole nother can of beans)

If the threoy that spren were once bonded to humans then lost there bond, they would be pretty similar to furies in that sense.  Spren bonding to humans makes human a radiant which can be compared to a fury making a human a furycraftor.  Both gives humans more powers than they would of had normally.  Both are usually non sentient, but can form a bond with humans. Both give powers based on they're virtues.

And yes Jim butcher created Codex alera on a bet he had to make a book based on two bad ideas.  The lost Roman Legion, and Pokemon

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Brandon Sanderson / WoK: Spren and Hoid (spoilers)
« on: September 09, 2010, 06:09:22 AM »
Ok I just finished the Book and I must say it was a really good read, and I am obviously lost in some areas, but I will definitely re-read the series to get a better understanding.

Now there is two questions I wanted to ask and to get people's opinion on.

1. First question is about Hoid (Wit).  He was my favorite character in the book especially when he said the "Insluts" line.  He is a jester who is paid by the king to insult other people of high standing.  To me that is genius, but besides the point.  I am confused to what his whole role in this series is.  I know he is a Worldsinger and Sigzil's master.  He is bright and I would like to say he is concerned about the world but two things stick out. Why does Sigzil not want to be found by Hoid, and in the end of the book I was confused to how he knew Odium (I assume that was Odium) at the end of the book.

2.  If people have read the Codex Alera Series by Jim Butcher, you would know what Furies are. In Codex alera furies are everywhere and all alerans have access to the powers granted by certain Furies.  Air Furies give increased speed, and the ability to fly.  Earth Furies give increased strength and the ability to influence emotions.  Water Furies give the ability of healing and shapeshifting.  Metal Furies give the ability of increased endurance and mastery of metal weapons.  Fire Furies give the ability to induce anger, control fire, and manipulate energy.  Wood Furies gives the ability to bend flora to you will and camoflauge.  Now in WoK you have Spren.  To me it seems like Spren act like the furies in Codex alera. Granted they're are a lot more spren, and they do not only effect the elements but emotions as well.  I assume though that Spren gives ability to people as well.  My question is though, does different spren give different powers to people like Deathspren giving a person the mastery over death, or a Windspren giving the ability of flight, or can only certain type of spren interact with only a certain amount of people?

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