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Brandon Sanderson / Re: So There is Going to be a Mistborn Flick....
« on: January 12, 2010, 11:09:13 AM »
Under no circumstances should Keanu Reeves be let near this.

Brandon Sanderson / Re: If the Wheel of Time were set in our day...
« on: November 01, 2009, 11:05:11 AM »
I believe I saw one good one on wotmania that noted that Brown Ajah sisters would become internet addicted slobs.

Some of mine:

Whitecloaks form internet communities claiming that darkfriends were behind 9/11
Rumors fly that Obama was born in Shayol Ghul.
Rand in anger management therapy.
Mat, Min, Thom and Faile arrested on multiple counts of concealed weaponry.
Two Rivers Tabac is required to have a warning label alerting smoker that Tabac is a known cancer causing compound.
Tinkers are constantly arrested for vagrancy, loitering and trespassing.
Semirhage works at the IRS.

Brandon Sanderson / Re: The Gathering Storm - First Impressions *SPOILERS*
« on: November 01, 2009, 10:43:15 AM »
The novel was a strange mix-it wasn't Sanderson, and it wasn't Jordan.  It was a hybrid novel.  To be honest, for an epic series like this, I would have preferred RJ's style, but the next best thing likely is Sanderson.  As has been noted before, perhaps the biggest departure from RJ's style was with Mat; his humor was more overt, and he cracked more jokes.  RJ was capable of creating characterizations, but in a more...gradual...manner.  The pacing of the book was very similar to KoD, which made it different from any of the first 10.  You get the feel that the plot has already been set up, and what's happening is simply the unfolding (or, WOT-talk, unspinning) of the previous buildups.  (Dominoes are falling in order)


I had a few "Wait...what?" moments, the greatest was after finishing, when I realized that Min's injuries hadn't disappeared after Rand's balefireing of Semirhage.  Another was towards the end, when I realized that the chapters weren't perfectly aligned (Rand refers to Mat and Perrin's activities before we see them.) 

Brandon Sanderson / Re: Vasher's clothing
« on: May 26, 2009, 10:37:48 AM »
Remember his cloak is kinda man-shaped, and both his sleeves and pants have tassels.  There's also  areference to a colored undershirt.  Also, you might not want to shave for a week or so.

Brandon Sanderson / Re: Official Gathering Storm Cover Impressions
« on: May 26, 2009, 10:32:58 AM »
Has anyone else noticed that you can't see Rand's eyes?  I think this may lend into the Fisher King theory about him losing his vision.

Brandon Sanderson / Re: Others writing Wheel of Time?
« on: May 26, 2009, 10:30:48 AM »
Author Existence Failure. 
Tvtropes is awesome! 

...sorry, just caught the refrence.

I doubt that any author would find it easy to add additional stories that RJ did not plan out.  If they tried, the best they'd be able to do is a Tolkien jr.-esk stuffy work of attempted note-patchwork.  Some things make good background in-story, but wouldn't work out too well as an actual novel.

Brandon Sanderson / Re: Official Gathering Storm Cover Impressions
« on: May 18, 2009, 04:06:18 AM »
You guys are too worried about the cover.  Don't worry, it'll fall off soon after you open the book.  (Seriously, though, Tor should develop a better glue.)

Brandon Sanderson / Re: Brandon To Write Wheel of Time Book 12
« on: April 23, 2009, 10:03:23 AM »
Am I the only one amused by the fact that
A. There is an anti-gay-marriage commercial with a gathering storm featured heavily in it,
B. Book 12 is called The Gathering Storm, and
C. Pillow friends?

Brandon Sanderson / Re: Wheel v. Mist
« on: November 30, 2008, 10:13:21 PM »
Any weave that touches him would melt.  However, he can still be affected/killed by the power.  Recall, Rand's assault on Rahvin-Mat got cooked by lightning.  (Which was an area targeting weave, as opposed to a person targeting weave)  So weaves that target him can't touch him, while weaves that target his area still get him.

Brandon Sanderson / Re: Wheel v. Mist
« on: November 30, 2008, 07:43:04 AM »
Besides, if the fight was in the mistborn world, then the channelers can't even use their magic because the Power is not there to use. 
In real life, neither would be able to use their powers.  So there.

May I point out that you seem to be viewing this through a bias if you view it only like that?

Brandon Sanderson / Re: Wheel v. Mist
« on: November 21, 2008, 12:08:55 AM »
"I equate Vin's level of power being somewhere near Moraine's. Quite strong for her time, but not even near the strength of the original nine Allomancers."
So are you saying that Vin's power level (OVER 9000!) is below average?  With the developments of WoT, ie the Asha'man, the windfinders, etc., Moiraine is towards the lower end of the spectrum.  Think, recent characters would skew the average upwards, and Asha'man would definitely have an impact...
(note: I am leaving Seanchan and Shara out of this.  While there are likely numerous channelers in each, they'd offset each other-Shara breeds for channelers, while Seanchan removes them from their gene pool.  Additionally, we don't really know how their populations...)
Vin is capable of killing mistborn and inquisitors alike, and if she's aproximately equal to Moiraine, the average mistborn would be equal to the average Aes Sedai.  And we've seen how they faired against just about everything...  

"But instead, we're debating whether or not a Mistborn could defeat a Channeler, if all else was equal. "
"Also, a few months/years training in the White Tower compared to a few months/years learning things on your own is hardly an equal field."  
Are we trying to make things a equal field?  Personally, I don't think it is.  The point is not to have a fair contest here, but to compare the magic systems for raw power/usefulness. 

"A few year's training in Allomancy could more roughly translate to Nynaeve's skill with the One Power before her formal training began. She had been using the One Power for years to heal people, and had become quite proficient at it, but she still had her block and any Aes Sedai could run her up one end and down the other."
I say that a Vin, pre training, is more in this area.  They both didn't know what they were doing, neither used the full extent of their power, both were proficient, and neither could truly stand up to a trained counterpart.  

"As for the building scenario, it's true too much force could splatter a Mistborn, but most of that force would either be absorbed by the weaves or used to break them. (Side note: I seem to remember that weaves of air are designed to not hurt those encapsulated in them.)"
I recall people thrashing around in air-this implies that they come up against something solid.  While Mat describes this as a thick jelly(TDR), there are also examples of damage being done to a person while held.  In the mini contest between Nynaeve and Siuan, Siuan is launched back, slammed against a wall, and held there.  This does not seem to protect the person held.  
There is, however, question as to how the weave works-channelers can lift people up into the air, but there is no mention of what happens if an outside force pushed on the held person then.  Perhaps they would fly off, but the holding would keep, (Picture a mistborn, stuck in one pose, flying around) or my splatter theory would be proven.  If you can find a passage where it notes that weaves of air are designed not to allow hurt-not just not to directly hurt, but also to stop indirect damage-please post.)

"I believe Elayne equates lifting things with air to be similar to lifting them with your arms, and could you imagine lifting something pressing down with the force of a building?"
I do recall something like this, but I thought it was more simile, rather than actual force.  I think that there are strength limits to how much can be lifted, though whether your average mistborn could overcome this and break the weave would be up for grabs.  (And they'd need to do it repeatedly, as channelers can weave quickly)

"Side Note II: Feruchemists?"
There's also true power...

Brandon Sanderson / Re: Wheel v. Mist
« on: November 20, 2008, 04:13:57 AM »
We do see Vin, who was both naturally talented and had a bit of a hemalurgic spike advantate-remember, she was beating up Ham.  While the average channeler may not be as tough, a reasonably talented mistborn (Like Lady Shan or the unnamed mistborn Vin takes down in the beginning of book 2) is also weaker than those we've seen a lot.  Also, in terms of training, wot main character channelers don't have much training either.

Am I the only one who sees the problem with the supposed ability to push buildings?  It wouldn't work like that imo.  Remember that Vin must, when durmalium-pushing, also use pewter in order to keep from being ripped apart.  When trapped in a cage of hard air, the mistborn is more likely to be splattered against their bonds than it is for the building to move.  In short, I think buildings are tougher than mistborn, even those blasting pewter.

Edited to remove repeated phrase

Brandon Sanderson / Re: Wheel v. Mist
« on: November 20, 2008, 01:32:04 AM »
Gholam are near immortal, and crazy fast/strong, but an Allo burning tin and pewter would even the field up pretty fast, toss in a duralumin pewter burn for a final punch or something, and it wouldn't be pleasant to be a gholam in Luthadel. Likewise Vin's flying metal bits of death, making sure a LOT of it was silver, would probably make for an unpleasant day.
Gholam were created as a specific counter for channelers. 

For circumstances, lets set the scenario something like this: both sides are prepared for the fight, but neither has much equipment.  Mistborn starts with several vials and a coinpouch, Channeler starts well rested.  No angreal of any type, and only a bead or two of atium.  Fight is in a city with lots of metal on buildings.  Fight begins with neither knowing where the other is.

Overall, because of the raw power, I'd go with channelers.  A mistborn could dodge non-targeting attacks, ie things like arrows of fire and lightning, but a holding weave would make them a sitting duck.  (or, probably, a floating duck)  And even while dodging, say, a good stream of balefire, how much time would they have for attacking?  Coins wouldn't do much good-thrown objects aren't helpful unless the channeler is stupid.  (ie Moghedian vs the male a-dam...when spears were launched at Rand by Couladin+crew, he was able to slice through that, and when a rock was thrown at Aginor-teotw-that turned to dust.  And don't forget the super Rand-shield that nearly asphyxiated him.)

The only advantage a mistborn would have is in close quarters combat, as they'd be faster and stronger.  If they even got spotted (which is likely, considering holding said(ar/in)) before closing the distance, the mistborn would be fried yesterday.  (Balefire ftw)

Brandon Sanderson / Re: Mistborn: Allomancy or Feruchemy? [ SPOILER ]
« on: November 11, 2008, 03:24:07 AM »
Remember, you can't charge any metalmind other than for wakefulness when you sleep.  However, I don't need to be smart all the time.  In fact, I could use the spare time I have (Which is often in little chunks too small to do anything with) to charge them. 
Ha...Jeopardy would have to ban all metals from a person...

Brandon Sanderson / Re: Mistborn: Allomancy or Feruchemy? [ SPOILER ]
« on: November 10, 2008, 08:28:41 AM »
This depends on your life-if you have stability, Feruchemy is probably going to be more useful.  If you have to stay on the go, Allomancy would be quicker-you need to worry less about your metal stores than a Feruchemist would have to worry about their stores.

I can't stop thinking of how good Feruchemy would be if you need to take a test- super speed writing, super fast thinking, incredible amounts of information at hand...

This would also translate in a fight; Feruchemists should be able to outwit Allomancers, as they can increase their thought processes...

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