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Title: Oddly Specific Reading Request
Post by: Silk on September 15, 2010, 03:56:19 AM
So I'm trying to come up with a decent list of fantasy stories that include non-Western mythologies, or stuff inspired by non-Western mythologies, and am having a tough time thinking of more than a couple. Anybody got any suggestions to throw out there for me?  (I know, this is specific enough that I might only get blank stares, but I figured it was worth a shot.)

They don't have to be novels. Short fiction counts.

Thanks! 
Title: Re: Oddly Specific Reading Request
Post by: Nessa on September 15, 2010, 05:11:41 AM
The Nightengale Floor by Lian Hearn

Erm. That's all I can think of off the top of my head. There aren't a ton.
Title: Re: Oddly Specific Reading Request
Post by: guessingo on September 15, 2010, 12:30:48 PM
one of the guys nominated for a Campbell Award is writing an Islamic fantasy novel. No idea when it will be released. I would like to see fantasy worlds where authors  jumble up cultures. For example.

People that look like a cross between Japanese and Indians
Music culture from central africa
political system based on ancient rome

something like that. You would need someone either fascinated by culture or someone with an anthropology background.
Title: Re: Oddly Specific Reading Request
Post by: Silk on September 15, 2010, 03:16:35 PM
one of the guys nominated for a Campbell Award is writing an Islamic fantasy novel. No idea when it will be released. I

I heard about that! Can't remember the fellow's name, or I'd try looking into some of his short fiction. (Um, I think his last name was Ahmed?)

Nessa: Thanks, I'll check it out.
Title: Re: Oddly Specific Reading Request
Post by: Sigyn on September 15, 2010, 05:20:52 PM
There's really a lot of these:
Anansi Boys by Neil Gaiman uses African
Bridge of Birds by Barry Hughart is Chinese
Book of a Thousand Days by Shannon Hale is I think set in Mongolia
Mary Brown has a trilogy that starts with Pigs Don't Fly that starts out in Europe but eventually goes to Nepal, where the dragons live
Tea with the Black Dragon by R.A. MacAvoy has a chinese dragon
The Dragon Keeper by Carole Wilkinson is also set in China
The Iron Ring by Lloyd Alexander is set in India, or a fantasy land that is almost the same
Lord of LIght by Roger Zelazny is sf but based around Hinduism
Castle in the Air by Diana Wynne Jones is set in a fantasy world that looks like 1001 Arabian Nights
The Temeraire books by Naomi Novik have a main British character, but they do travel to China and across the Himalayas and to Australia

Some others I haven't read but found in a quick search:
The Conch Bearer by Chitra Baerjee Divakaruni which is set in modern India
Dragon Horse by Peter Ward which is set along the Great Silk Road
Michael and the Monkey King by Alan James Brown has the Chinese Monkey King
The Red Pyramid by Rick Riordan is based on Egyptian Mythology

Do you also want books that have a fantasy world "kind of like" Japan/China/India, etc?  Because there are a lot of those too.
Title: Re: Oddly Specific Reading Request
Post by: Bookstore Guy on September 15, 2010, 06:39:50 PM
I believe Liz Williams also has an Urban Fantasy set in Singapore.  I haven't read them, but the covers are cool looking.
Title: Re: Oddly Specific Reading Request
Post by: Fellfrosch on September 15, 2010, 09:38:52 PM
Most of Guy Gavriel Kay's books are set in a different cultural background. His newest, which I believe is called Under Heaven, is set in China.
Title: Re: Oddly Specific Reading Request
Post by: Nessa on September 16, 2010, 02:10:08 AM
Most of Guy Gavriel Kay's books are set in a different cultural background. His newest, which I believe is called Under Heaven, is set in China.

A lot of them are Europe based. But yes, Under Heaven is set in 5th Dynasty China. But it's more alternate historical fiction than really solid fantasy.

OK, it's ACROSS the Nightengale Floor. That's what I get for not checking first. And Barry Hugart's stuff (that Sigyn mentioned) is a favorite.
Title: Re: Oddly Specific Reading Request
Post by: ryos on September 16, 2010, 04:19:56 AM
There are a bunch on PodCastle. If you want to read instead of listen, the intro to each story tells where it was originally published.

I vouch for the excellence of all of these. There are a few that I left out because I found them less than excellent.

Run of the Fiery Horse (http://podcastle.org/2008/04/15/pc003-run-of-the-fiery-horse-by-hilary-moon-murphy/) (My third favorite)
The Grand Cheat (http://podcastle.org/2008/07/01/pc014-the-grand-cheat/) (If you listen to only two, make this the second. My second favorite.)
Moon Viewing at Shijo Bridge (http://podcastle.org/2008/09/02/pc023-moon-viewing-at-shijo-bridge-podcastle-giant/) (If you listen to only one, make it this one. My favorite in the lot.)
The Fable of the Ostrich (http://podcastle.org/2008/09/28/podcastle-miniature-013-the-fable-of-the-ostrich/) (Flash fiction; set in Africa but the 'voice' is western)
The Tanuki Kettle (http://podcastle.org/2008/10/08/pc028-the-tanuki-kettle/)
Bright Waters (http://podcastle.org/2009/04/08/pc047-giant-episode-bright-waters/) (Native American)
The Nalendar (http://podcastle.org/2009/05/14/podcastle-052-the-nalendar/) (cultural influence unknown to me, but I don't think it's western)
Chu-bu and Sheemish (http://podcastle.org/2009/05/28/podcastle-miniature-32-chu-bu-and-sheemish/) (flash fiction)
On the Banks of the River of Heaven (http://podcastle.org/2009/06/30/pc059-on-the-banks-of-the-river-of-heaven/)
Title: Re: Oddly Specific Reading Request
Post by: hubay on September 16, 2010, 06:56:40 AM
There's a very good YA quartet by Laurence Yep that starts with Dragon of the Lost Sea that draws heavily from asian mythology; the first book is actually a re imagining of an old Chinese folktale. It's probably one of my favorite books as a child, and considering it's age group does a really good job dealing with character development, sacrifice, redemption, and the cost of magic.
Title: Re: Oddly Specific Reading Request
Post by: guessingo on September 16, 2010, 02:00:51 PM
Are any of these books non-YA (I don't like young adult literature) and set in a separate fantasy world? Like a World of Time type thing with more non-western cultures? Or fantasy books set in anything other than 14th century Europe with magic?
Title: Re: Oddly Specific Reading Request
Post by: WriterDan on September 16, 2010, 08:43:40 PM
Long Price Quartet by Daniel Abraham
Title: Re: Oddly Specific Reading Request
Post by: Bejay on September 16, 2010, 08:58:03 PM
Have a alook at the "Age of discovery" Trioligy by M.A. Stackpole. It ist not really asian mythology, but borrows heavilly.
Title: Re: Oddly Specific Reading Request
Post by: Silk on September 17, 2010, 02:15:25 AM
Oh, wow. Thanks, everyone--you guys are awesome!

Title: Re: Oddly Specific Reading Request
Post by: guessingo on September 17, 2010, 12:17:39 PM
What do people think of Stackpole's writing? I am not interested in his Star Wars books. The impression I get from his blog is that he rushes through books. So I have been hesitant to try him. Yeah I know some of you think that isn't fair.
Title: Re: Oddly Specific Reading Request
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on September 17, 2010, 11:39:03 PM
Lord of Light was already mentioned and it is SF blended with Fantasy but it is Hindi and very well done. It won Zelazny his first Nebula and Hugo awards.
Title: Re: Oddly Specific Reading Request
Post by: Silk on September 18, 2010, 05:28:31 PM
guessingo: I haven't read Stackpole, so I can't offer an opinion there.

Thanks, Kaz--I'll definitely check it out. (I need to read some Zelanzy anyway.)

Sigyn: I'm always happy to read more "kind of like place XYZ" books, though they seem to be easier to find, and the mythology focus is for a specific project. =)

Ryos: I just popped Moon Viewing at Shijo Bridge onto my mp3 player. I'll try to give it a listen tomorrow when I go for my workout.
Title: Re: Oddly Specific Reading Request
Post by: ryos on September 19, 2010, 10:30:29 AM
Cool, I'm curious to know what you thought when you've finished. :)
Title: Re: Oddly Specific Reading Request
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on September 19, 2010, 06:37:13 PM
Burglars have to stick together  ;) also by Zelazny Creatures of Light and Darkness (Egyptian SF/ Fantasy)
Title: Re: Oddly Specific Reading Request
Post by: Bejay on September 19, 2010, 07:53:09 PM
@guessingo:

I like Stackpoles character development. His characters feel "real" to me. I do not feel rushed at all, even if his books tend to be short. Try Talion: Revenant (stand alone) or the dragoncrown war cycle (1+3)to get a feel for his writing.


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Title: Re: Oddly Specific Reading Request
Post by: Silk on September 19, 2010, 11:58:42 PM
^Assuming that Bejay's remark was in response to guessingo's question about Stackpole.

Ryos: Wow, thanks for that recommendation. Excellence indeed.